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Re: Friday, July 15, 2011 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Postby ileggin » Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:45 pm

The shows did tape M-F that week. Kilter intact.
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Re: Trademarks

Postby chuck5982 » Sat Jul 16, 2011 4:50 pm

Bamaman wrote:In 1987 a maker of fiberglass insulation became the first company to trademark a color--this color.


Seriously? Left over from Kids Week?

Anyway, go Mark!
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Re: Friday, July 15, 2011 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Postby Rafferty Barnes » Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:51 am

Bamaman wrote:Rafferty mentioned to me in a p-mail the taping "weeks" were off a bit because of Watson and hers did not follow the M-F schedule. So its possible he taped his next show right after his first.


NJCondon mentioned his taping day was M-F, so yes, they did get back on track.
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Re: Friday, July 15, 2011 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Postby jepkid97 » Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:50 pm

I return from my (very long) message board hiatus (I've been busy!) to share that I was a bit to young to know FJ Friday, but I did have a pretty good game.

Also, what happened? It feels like we're living in exile here!
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Re: Friday, July 15, 2011 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Postby econgator » Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:34 pm

jepkid97 wrote:I return from my (very long) message board hiatus


What are you, like 26 now? :)
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Re: Friday, July 15, 2011 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Postby --Pete » Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:03 pm

Hi,

jepkid97 wrote:I return from my (very long) message board hiatus (I've been busy!) ...


Welcome back, hope you had a good year.

jepkid97 wrote:Also, what happened? It feels like we're living in exile here!


What happened, indeed. Near as I can tell, the tsunami took out the reactors that supplied the power to Sony's servers which melted down and slid into the ocean. Anything less, and a reasonable effort would have had the fora back online by now.

But, hey, for a refugee camp, these are pretty nice digs. ;)

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Re: Friday, July 15, 2011 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Postby jepkid97 » Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:37 pm

econgator wrote:
jepkid97 wrote:I return from my (very long) message board hiatus


What are you, like 26 now? :)

Still 13. :)
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Re: Friday, July 15, 2011 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Postby chuck5982 » Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:39 pm

The J! Archive has Mark Runsvold's occupation as a student and writer. Johnny Gilbert introduced him as a student and waiter.
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Re: Friday, July 15, 2011 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Postby RCraig » Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:11 pm

alietr wrote:I think Roger was sweating out the result of this one.

No sweating, alietr, just enjoying the show. I'm a big fan of excellent Jeopardy performances. Looking forward to next week.

seaborgium wrote:All I could see was someone arbitrarily avoiding breaking $50k on what turned out to be a softball, for the third time this season (and the second time when the correct response was four letters!). It was a game well played, but I wish there were more "because it's there" efforts in blowouts.

Is $50k a magical threshold or something? (Did you feel the same when players didn't bet to break $25k before 2001? ) Don't forget that everybody has different strong and weak points. FJ categories like Musical Theater, Vocabulary, and Trademarks might've scared each of those 3 players.* Also, the utility curves of the 3 players probably rendered their bets highly rational. For every Edmund Hillary there's a George Mallory.

*e.g. given a FJ category of Food, 22.8k in the bank and two opponents with 200, I'd probably bet 1200. And I wouldn't begrudge anybody that bet 20k either, in fact, I would admire their cojones.
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Re: Friday, July 15, 2011 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Postby Robert K S » Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:55 pm

chuck5982 wrote:The J! Archive has Mark Runsvold's occupation as a student and writer. Johnny Gilbert introduced him as a student and waiter.


These things get fixed more quickly if posted as correction suggestions to the Archive. Thanks!
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Re: Friday, July 15, 2011 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Postby seaborgium » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:36 pm

RCraig wrote:Is $50k a magical threshold or something? (Did you feel the same when players didn't bet to break $25k before 2001? ) Don't forget that everybody has different strong and weak points. FJ categories like Musical Theater, Vocabulary, and Trademarks might've scared each of those 3 players.* Also, the utility curves of the 3 players probably rendered their bets highly rational. For every Edmund Hillary there's a George Mallory.

*e.g. given a FJ category of Food, 22.8k in the bank and two opponents with 200, I'd probably bet 1200. And I wouldn't begrudge anybody that bet 20k either, in fact, I would admire their cojones.

Eh, my pointing out of the $50k mark is arbitrary, but I shot for $40k+ when I could, because it was there and I was within reach. There have been four available safe (i.e. not victory-endangering) shots for $50k+ this season, and only one was taken.

The one that was taken, I was actually slightly disappointed at the missed opportunity for $80k+! (I had been spoiled on the total when I attended an early August taping last year, though, so the disappointment was slight at worst.) So I think I'm arbitrarily looking for people with lock games to attempt at least to clear the furthest ten thousand they can.

For what it's worth, it felt significant to me in the pre-doubled days when someone cleared $15k.
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Re: Friday, July 15, 2011 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Postby NJCondon » Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:21 am

Rafferty Barnes wrote:
Bamaman wrote:Rafferty mentioned to me in a p-mail the taping "weeks" were off a bit because of Watson and hers did not follow the M-F schedule. So its possible he taped his next show right after his first.


NJCondon mentioned his taping day was M-F, so yes, they did get back on track.


Ms. Barnes is correct; I taped a week or two after Watson aired, and we were back to M-F. My four games aired Monday through Thursday, and they were the first four of the day.
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Re: Friday, July 15, 2011 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Postby NJCondon » Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:32 am

Although I'm a bit late to the party here (I DVR the show, and due to my kid's erratic sleep schedule and other commitments, I've gotten a day behind on viewing), I want to add my appreciation of Mark's performance, which was stellar, and his DD bets, which were refreshingly bold.

One strange thing I noticed was Mark kept on looking to his left just before answering over and over again in the J! round, and the angle of his eyes and head didn't seem to suggest a glance at the scoreboard; nervous tick? He did seem a bit tense for someone who was thrashing his competitors so thoroughly, but believe me when I say that I am sympathetic.

In his place, I might have been tempted to wager for the k$50 on FJ!, but that category would have probably put me on something even smaller than what he chose.

While it's obviously not certain at this point, I won't be particularly shocked if I'm updating my ToC probability table again this week or next.

I think my strong categories must be very different from the rest of y'all's; Thursday was an average board for me, and while Friday's J! round was very easy (27 R, 0 W), the DJ! round was, again, average.
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Re: Friday, July 15, 2011 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Postby RCraig » Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:00 am

seaborgium wrote:Eh, my pointing out of the $50k mark is arbitrary, but I shot for $40k+ when I could, because it was there and I was within reach. There have been four available safe (i.e. not victory-endangering) shots for $50k+ this season, and only one was taken.

The one that was taken, I was actually slightly disappointed at the missed opportunity for $80k+! (I had been spoiled on the total when I attended an early August taping last year, though, so the disappointment was slight at worst.) So I think I'm arbitrarily looking for people with lock games to attempt at least to clear the furthest ten thousand they can.

For what it's worth, it felt significant to me in the pre-doubled days when someone cleared $15k.

Gotcha. Yeah, I thought about 80, the max bet, and 75001, but decided to settle on a nice round bet number.

The thing about these shots this season for big scores is that they've all happened (so far) in the contestant's first or second game. That's still in the whole "whoa, what's going on?" phase of the experience.
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Re: Friday, July 15, 2011 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Postby Bamaman » Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:16 am

Roger, did Alex tell you what the record was during the pre-FJ break? I assume you knew, but did he mention it?
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Re: Friday, July 15, 2011 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Postby RCraig » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:47 pm

Bamaman wrote:Roger, did Alex tell you what the record was during the pre-FJ break? I assume you knew, but did he mention it?

He announced it to the studio audience while standing about 6 ft from his lectern, which nobody could help but hear. He'd never talk to a contestant directly unless it was on camera due to question security.
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