I see Bogota, I see France ...Vanya wrote:Speaking of calling countries by the wrong name:
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I have no sources to back this up, but I suspect in this particular instance that the IOC selects the way the host city's name will be written and spoken, then requires all of its broadcasters (in the contracts they're all desperate to sign) to say the place name that way. All the Olympic venues are covered in signage with the "official" name of the Olympic host city, and the year. In the "Turin" games, the signage all said "TORINO 2006." I'm guessing the IOC (and NBC, I'm sure) thought it would be confusing if the signage and logos all said one thing, but the broadcasters all said another.OldSchoolChamp wrote:Why did all the media coverage of the 2006 Winter Olympics insist on referring to Torino instead of Turin? If the venue had been Naples or Florence, I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t have called it Napoli or Firenze.
But like I said, this is just a guess on my part.
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That must be why our broadcasters also constantly referred to Roma 1960, Ciudád México 1968, München 1972, Moskva 1980 and Athína 2004.GUJeopardyFan wrote:I have no sources to back this up, but I suspect in this particular instance that the IOC selects the way the host city's name will be written and spoken, then requires all of its broadcasters (in the contracts they're all desperate to sign) to say the place name that way. All the Olympic venues are covered in signage with the "official" name of the Olympic host city, and the year. In the "Turin" games, the signage all said "TORINO 2006." I'm guessing the IOC (and NBC, I'm sure) thought it would be confusing if the signage and logos all said one thing, but the broadcasters all said another.OldSchoolChamp wrote:Why did all the media coverage of the 2006 Winter Olympics insist on referring to Torino instead of Turin? If the venue had been Naples or Florence, I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t have called it Napoli or Firenze.
But like I said, this is just a guess on my part.
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It may be precisely because of that dichotomy that sometime after Moscow the "broadcasters must match the IOC terminology" rule was adopted. I say "after Moscow" because all the official IOC logos for 2004 look like this:gnash wrote:That must be why our broadcasters also constantly referred to Roma 1960, Ciudád México 1968, München 1972, Moskva 1980 and Athína 2004.GUJeopardyFan wrote:I have no sources to back this up, but I suspect in this particular instance that the IOC selects the way the host city's name will be written and spoken, then requires all of its broadcasters (in the contracts they're all desperate to sign) to say the place name that way. All the Olympic venues are covered in signage with the "official" name of the Olympic host city, and the year. In the "Turin" games, the signage all said "TORINO 2006." I'm guessing the IOC (and NBC, I'm sure) thought it would be confusing if the signage and logos all said one thing, but the broadcasters all said another.OldSchoolChamp wrote:Why did all the media coverage of the 2006 Winter Olympics insist on referring to Torino instead of Turin? If the venue had been Naples or Florence, I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t have called it Napoli or Firenze.
But like I said, this is just a guess on my part.
(apologies, I don't know how to resize on this)
And, for the record, I only found official IOC logos referring to Munich 1972 and Mexico (not Mexico City, but without the accent) 1968.
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I believe it is actually the determination of the host country, not the IOC.GUJeopardyFan wrote:I have no sources to back this up, but I suspect in this particular instance that the IOC selects the way the host city's name will be written and spoken, then requires all of its broadcasters (in the contracts they're all desperate to sign) to say the place name that way. All the Olympic venues are covered in signage with the "official" name of the Olympic host city, and the year. In the "Turin" games, the signage all said "TORINO 2006." I'm guessing the IOC (and NBC, I'm sure) thought it would be confusing if the signage and logos all said one thing, but the broadcasters all said another.OldSchoolChamp wrote:Why did all the media coverage of the 2006 Winter Olympics insist on referring to Torino instead of Turin? If the venue had been Naples or Florence, I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t have called it Napoli or Firenze.
But like I said, this is just a guess on my part.
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I mean the "official as far as the Olympics are concerned" name of the city, not what it is called in the native language...ss DHK points out, none of the 2004 signage said Athína, and I'm guessing none of the 2014 signage will say ???? (Sochi). Somebody (IOC, organizing committee, etc) picks a way the name will be spoken and written (in Roman characters) and everybody follows along.gnash wrote:That must be why our broadcasters also constantly referred to Roma 1960, Ciudád México 1968, München 1972, Moskva 1980 and Athína 2004.
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My pet peeve is when the SHC contains a bunch of questions I don't know the answer to.
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Considering most of the board are intellectuals (rule of joining the board: you're either an intellectual, or dhkendall) that's not a "Pet Intelletcual Peeve", we're all in the same boat.alietr wrote:My pet peeve is when the SHC contains a bunch of questions I don't know the answer to.
(Yes, there's Schlie, but he's not human,a s we all know.)
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I don't understand this statement. What does it say if not Sochi?GUJeopardyFan wrote: I'm guessing none of the 2014 signage will say ???? (Sochi).
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The point is that the signage will say "Sochi" but as written in Roman letters, not the Cyrillic equivalent. (which I assume is also pronounced differently in Russian)gnash wrote:I don't understand this statement. What does it say if not Sochi?GUJeopardyFan wrote: I'm guessing none of the 2014 signage will say ???? (Sochi).
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What he said.alamble wrote:The point is that the signage will say "Sochi" but as written in Roman letters, not the Cyrillic equivalent. (which I assume is also pronounced differently in Russian)gnash wrote:I don't understand this statement. What does it say if not Sochi?GUJeopardyFan wrote: I'm guessing none of the 2014 signage will say ???? (Sochi).
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You cannot say something in Cyrillic. You can only write it in Cyrillic.alamble wrote:The point is that the signage will say "Sochi" but as written in Roman letters, not the Cyrillic equivalent. (which I assume is also pronounced differently in Russian)gnash wrote:I don't understand this statement. What does it say if not Sochi?GUJeopardyFan wrote: I'm guessing none of the 2014 signage will say ???? (Sochi).
And no, that's not a joke answer. Tokyo, Nagano, Sapporo and Beijing have also hosted the Olympics and I do not consider their English names different from their native names just because they are written in Latin script and our pronunciation doesn't exactly match the native one.
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It's not pronounced differently in Russian (although many Russian words are mis-pronounced by English speakers). The official logo has the website name in it (sochi2014.ru), so it has to be in Roman letters.
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What he said.[/quote]GUJeopardyFan wrote:The point is that the signage will say "Sochi" but as written in Roman letters, not the Cyrillic equivalent. (which I assume is also pronounced differently in Russian)alamble wrote: I'm guessing none of the 2014 signage will say ???? (Sochi).
I don't understand this statement. What does it say if not Sochi?
That would be "she," actually.
Also, this "you can only embed up to three quotes" mandate is a little annoying. I understand the purpose but not all multi-quotes take up yards and yards of space!
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Oops! Sorry :p
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Not a problem. FTR, "a" is short for my first name, which I might reveal if someone can guess it.GUJeopardyFan wrote:Oops! Sorry :p
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So, if a Russian is constantly murdering his language with horrible puns, is he a Cyrillic Killer?
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georgespelvin wrote:Because we need this thread back too.
"Reretaken" is not a word.
Just out of curiosity.......any relation to Georgina??
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The devil you say!
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