TD 210: Viewer's Choice!

[UniquePerspective]

None.

[UniquePerspective]

Time is up.

44 of you are crazy enough to try this. Let's see who.

gamawire
lieph82
Bamaman
Rackme32
nightreign
Vermonter
dnbguy
TerrHeel
MarkBarrett
brainpower
Ryno
mennoknight
psgola
Peachbox
BlueLion
JoshuaRQI
mitchparov
Magna
dott888
tjconn728
Ivorians
clprez
sillymoose
coolcah36
econgator
ElendilPickle
TheyCallMeMrKid
Tpmorrison
goforthetie
CheezeWhiz
dougforte
Tigershark
Woof
Randy G
Creed Bratton
Peggles
dhkendall
jepkid97
ihavejeoprosy
whatisbishkek
ebottech
barandall800

Scores begin tomorrow.

[UniquePerspective]

First of all, I miscounted, it's 42 entries. Let's get started.

1. World Capital Cities: Name one of the 20 most populated capital cities in the world. Cities must be capitals of countries that are sovereign states that are members of the United Nations.

An interesting sheep, with at least one surprising singleton.

Tokyo, Japan (#3) (7):
Vermonter
dnbguy
psgola
Peachbox
TheyCallMeMrKid
Tigershark
whatisbishkek

London, England (#11) (6):
Rackme32
dott888
ElendilPickle
Creed Bratton
dhkendall
eboettch

Mexico City, Mexico (#8) (5):
gamawire
nightreign
brainpower
JoshuaRQI
econgator

Beijing, China (#1) (3):
coolcah36
dougforte
jepkid97

Lima, Peru (#9) (3):
goforthetie
Peggles
barandall800

Cairo, Egypt (#13) (2):
MarkBarrett
CheezeWhhiz

Seoul, South Korea (#5) (2):
Ivorians
Randy G

Ankara, Turkey (#18) (1):
ihavejeoprosy

Bangkok, Thailand (#10) (1):
Woof

Bogota, Colombia (#12) (1):
Magna

Jakarta, Indonesia (#6) (1):
mitchparov

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia (#19) (1):
tjconn728

No drops or sheeps at all.

INCORRECT ANSWERS (20):

Amsterdam, Netherlands (#106):
Bamaman

Buenos Aires (#29):
sillymoose

Brasilia, Brazil (#32):
TerrHeel

Caracas, Venezuela (#43:
Blue Lion

Lagos, Nigeria (Capital is Abuja):
tpmorrison

Havana, Cuba (#30:
Ryno

Ottawa, Canada (#90):
lieph82

Rome, Italy (#30):
clprez

Correct answers not given:
New Delhi, India (#2)
Moscow, Russia (#4)
Tehran, Iran (#7)
Bagdhad, Iraq (#14)
Dhaka, Bangladesh (#15)
Singapore, Singapore (#16)
Santiago, Chile (#17)
Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of the Congo (#20)

[BobF]

First of all, I miscounted, it's 42 entries. Let's get started.


Correct answers not given:
New Delhi, India (#2)
Moscow, Russia (#4)
Tehran, Iran (#7)
Bagdhad, Iraq (#14)
Dhaka, Bangladesh (#15)
Singapore, Singapore (#16)
Santiago, Chile (#17)
Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of the Congo (#20)

Darn it, I would have had a singleton if I got my entry in on time.

[goforthetie]

City limits, according to the article.

There's no way New Delhi is #2 if you're only counting within city limits.

[whatisbishkek]

City limits, according to the article.

There's no way New Delhi is #2 if you're only counting within city limits.

Yep, it must be using either the population for Delhi or for the whole metro area because New Delhi itself only has about 300,000 people and would not be a correct answer.

[UniquePerspective]

According to the article I used:

"This is a list of national capitals, ordered according to population. Capitals of a dependent territories and disputed territories are marked in italics. The population statistics given refer only to the official capital area, and do not include the wider metropolitan/urban district."

Maybe my article lied? Nevertheless, no one picked it, and no one picked a country close enough so that New Delhi moving down would alter it.

Bishkek seems to make a valid point too. I'm not worried about it for now unless something comes up that completely invalidates my article.

[goforthetie]

Maybe my article lied? Nevertheless, no one picked it, and no one picked a country close enough so that New Delhi moving down would alter it.

What source are you using? The fact that it lists New Delhi at #2 calls the rest of its stats into question. Buenos Aires, in particular, I would have thought to be easily inside the top 20. For instance, this source has it at #2.

(I think one moral of this story is that comparing city/metro populations across countries is not a very exact science and should probably be avoided in trivia contests.)

[UniquePerspective]

Wikipedia, which used a couple of different sources, apparently. I'm now inclined to just throw out the question and grade based on the next 11, especially since no one used a drop or sheep anyway, if sources are going to be that varying and just simply not ask a question of that type next time. The more you know. *cues NBC rainbow*

[lieph82]

Wikipedia was your source article? That might also be something to avoid next time.

[goforthetie]

Wikipedia, which used a couple of different sources, apparently. I'm now inclined to just throw out the question and grade based on the next 11, especially since no one used a drop or sheep anyway, if sources are going to be that varying and just simply not ask a question of that type next time. The more you know. *cues NBC rainbow*

I don't think you need to throw out the question. Buenos Aires should be given credit, for sure, but I'm not sure any of the others have a strong case.

[UniquePerspective]

Me using Wikipedia as a source is like a forbidden love affair. It's so wrong but it feels so so right. If loving you is wrong I don't wanna be right.


2. US History: Name any vice president of a US president who served exactly and only one full term (In other words, the president served exactly one 4 year term, no more, no less). I also will not accept Vacant.

Wrong answers were a case of "Read The Question and Clarification Afterwards": Most of you did.

Walter Mondale (12):
Rackme32
nightreign
dnbguy
Ryno
Peachbox
tjconn728
clprez
econgator
CheezeWhiz
Creed Bratton
Peggles
barandall800

Dan Quayle (9):
MarkBarret
TerrHeel
brainpower
mennoknight
dott888
sillymoose
coolcah36
ElendilPickle
whatisbishkek

Thomas Jefferson (5):
JoshuaRQI
mitchparov
Tigershark
Randy G
eboettch

John C. Calhoun (2):
Ivorians
goforthetie

John C. Breckinridge (1):
Woof

Charles Curtis (1):
Magna

George M. Dallas (1):
Vermonter

DROP (0):
dougforte
jepkid97

Incorrect Answers (25):

Aaron Burr (was under Jefferson, who served twice):
tpmorisson

Adlai Stephenson (was under Cleveland, who had those two odd non-sequential terms):
ihavejeoprosy

Bob Dole (Never VP):
TheyCallMeMrKid

Calvin Coolidge (was under Wilson, who served twice):
lieph82

Daniel Tompkins (was under Monroe, who served twice):
Bamaman

George H.W Bush (was under Reagan, who served twice):
gamawire

Hannibal Hamlin (although he served one term, Lincoln started his second):
dhekndall

Henry Wallace (was under FDR, who served over 3 terms):
Blue Lion

Herbert Hoover (was never VP):
psgola

Correct answers not given:
Richard Mentor Johnson (Under Van Buren)
William R. King (Under Pierce)
William A. Wheeler (Under Hayes)
Levi P. Morton (Under Benjamin Harrison)
James S. Sherman (under Taft)

[sillymoose]

I think I should get credit for Buenos Aires. According to most sources, it is well within the top 20

[lieph82]

Calvin Coolidge (was under Wilson, who served twice):
lieph82

Coolidge actually served under Harding, but it's still wrong because Harding died in office.

But I PMed you to change my answer to Jefferson and you never responded. There's nothing in the rules about whether or not we were allowed to change answers.

[RandyG]

Calvin Coolidge (was under Wilson, who served twice):
lieph82

Simple correction: Coolidge was VP under Harding, who served only 2+ years as president.

[whatisbishkek]

Wikipedia, which used a couple of different sources, apparently. I'm now inclined to just throw out the question and grade based on the next 11, especially since no one used a drop or sheep anyway, if sources are going to be that varying and just simply not ask a question of that type next time. The more you know. *cues NBC rainbow*

I don't think you need to throw out the question. Buenos Aires should be given credit, for sure, but I'm not sure any of the others have a strong case.

I don't know. The original source is Argentina's census, and apparently the population for the city proper is indeed a lot smaller than I would have thought. But then, that goes to the problematic nature of comparing city populations across different countries.

[UniquePerspective]

Calvin Coolidge (was under Wilson, who served twice):
lieph82

Coolidge actually served under Harding, but it's still wrong because Harding died in office.

But I PMed you to change my answer to Jefferson and you never responded. There's nothing in the rules about whether or not we were allowed to change answers.

I did not. My apologies, life got in the way. I was probably going to say no anyway, unfortunately.

[dhkendall]

[Not cutting and pasting since it's a pain in the ass on the phone]

Couple of nits:

#1: London, England - England is not a member of the UN, and thus shouldn't be counted. London, UK, however, is perfectly fine and fits the clue.

#2: The way I read the question, only the VP had to serve the one full term, not the President, and that's how I answered. I don't see how my interpretation can be discounted with the question as it's worded.

[lieph82]

Calvin Coolidge (was under Wilson, who served twice):
lieph82

Coolidge actually served under Harding, but it's still wrong because Harding died in office.

But I PMed you to change my answer to Jefferson and you never responded. There's nothing in the rules about whether or not we were allowed to change answers.

I did not. My apologies, life got in the way. I was probably going to say no anyway, unfortunately.

I also think Scooby Doo is anthropomorphic, so your game sucks .

[Magna]

#2: The way I read the question, only the VP had to serve the one full term, not the President, and that's how I answered. I don't see how my interpretation can be discounted with the question as it's worded.

I think the "in other words" part of the question rules it out.

Name any vice president of a US president who served exactly and only one full term (In other words, the president served exactly one 4 year term, no more, no less).