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alietr wrote:They sure don't use anything with the word 'numero' in it.
Actually, it is used in French. If you get a wrong number call, you would say, "Vous vous etes trompe de numero."
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alietr wrote:They sure don't use anything with the word 'numero' in it.
Like, ever?

Edit: econgator justified my misgivings.
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econgator wrote:
alietr wrote:They sure don't use anything with the word 'numero' in it.
Actually, it is used in French. If you get a wrong number call, you would say, "Vous vous etes trompe de numero."
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Hey, I ruined his day, he's allowed to trash my attempts a la francais!
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alietr wrote:Got it ... J'espère que j'ai gagné aujourd'ui. I hope that I won today.
Concur, clearly said that ^ knowing that the taping of this segment in advance would appear later, after she had won or lost, begging the question; what tense is she using?
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A: Future pluperfect subjunctive, yes quite a mouthful, a 'future event in anticipation of having happened with some as-yet unforeseeable, dependent outcome,' lol!
Contrast with "J'aspere que Je gagne aujourd'hui", future simple subjunctive mood; "I hope that I win today!"
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http://www.french-linguistics.co.uk/gra ... fect.shtml
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I reiterate that Carolyn says "je gagne", not "j'ai gagné", right before "aujourd'hui" in the clip.

Here are some audio files from an online French-language resource illustrating the difference in pronunciation.

http://www.audiofrench.com/verbs/sounds ... _gagne.mp3

http://www.audiofrench.com/verbs/sounds ... _gagne.mp3

Notice that the present tense "gagne" ends in what you might call a consonantal Y sound. The "gn" is pronounced like the middle of the English words "canyon" or "onion", or the sound illustrated by "ñ" in Spanish words like "jalapeño". In Carolyn's line, you're hearing that Y-ish sound right before the "oh" sound at the beginning of "aujourd'hui".

Also, right before "gagne", Carolyn is saying "je", which has a schwa-like vowel, as opposed to "j'ai", which has a more open vowel sound that English-speakers might spell as "eh" or "ay".
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skullturf wrote:I reiterate that Carolyn says "je gagne", not "j'ai gagné", right before "aujourd'hui" in the clip.
After listening to it again, I agree. It's definitely a 'zhuh' (je), not a 'zhay' (j'ai).
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econgator wrote:
skullturf wrote:I reiterate that Carolyn says "je gagne", not "j'ai gagné", right before "aujourd'hui" in the clip.
After listening to it again, I agree. It's definitely a 'zhuh' (je), not a 'zhay' (j'ai).
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Vanya wrote:
econgator wrote:
skullturf wrote:I reiterate that Carolyn says "je gagne", not "j'ai gagné", right before "aujourd'hui" in the clip.
After listening to it again, I agree. It's definitely a 'zhuh' (je), not a 'zhay' (j'ai).
How can you tell? French people sound like they are speaking with a mouth full of marbles.
Then just record them and slow down the playback.
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Volante wrote:
Vanya wrote:
econgator wrote:
skullturf wrote:I reiterate that Carolyn says "je gagne", not "j'ai gagné", right before "aujourd'hui" in the clip.
After listening to it again, I agree. It's definitely a 'zhuh' (je), not a 'zhay' (j'ai).
How can you tell? French people sound like they are speaking with a mouth full of marbles.
Then just record them and slow down the playback.
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Vanya wrote:
Volante wrote:
Vanya wrote:
econgator wrote:
skullturf wrote:I reiterate that Carolyn says "je gagne", not "j'ai gagné", right before "aujourd'hui" in the clip.
After listening to it again, I agree. It's definitely a 'zhuh' (je), not a 'zhay' (j'ai).
How can you tell? French people sound like they are speaking with a mouth full of marbles.
Then just record them and slow down the playback.
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Vanya wrote:
Volante wrote:
Vanya wrote:
econgator wrote:
skullturf wrote:I reiterate that Carolyn says "je gagne", not "j'ai gagné", right before "aujourd'hui" in the clip.
After listening to it again, I agree. It's definitely a 'zhuh' (je), not a 'zhay' (j'ai).
How can you tell? French people sound like they are speaking with a mouth full of marbles.
Then just record them and slow down the playback.
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Vanya wrote:
econgator wrote:
skullturf wrote:I reiterate that Carolyn says "je gagne", not "j'ai gagné", right before "aujourd'hui" in the clip.
After listening to it again, I agree. It's definitely a 'zhuh' (je), not a 'zhay' (j'ai).
How can you tell? French people sound like they are speaking with a mouth full of marbles.
IMHO she speaks French with a Southern accent, hence slurred j'ai to "jeaih"
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