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Re: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by BobF » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:00 pm

Winchell Factor wrote:
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brick wrote:You didn't make a negative comment. You mocked her. It's rude and it's immature and you seem to think that because a close friend of yours in college was ok with something similar it's ok? Word to the wise: Tossing behaviors at total strangers online based on the fact that your college bestie was cool with it isn't a good game plan.


Perfect timing! I was just thinking this morning that the internet was so devoid of people who can take a complete strangers written words and then tell the writer exactly what they meant by those words. Welcome to JBoard, brick!

My biggest error here was posting in a style that I would normally use for my Facebook posts where the people who know me know that I'm a very positive person with a goofball streak in me. If Laura ever happens to read the post in question, I apologize, I meant no offense.

Without wanting to pick a fight--and, honestly, I don't want to--I think the burden really goes the other way. I think the obligation of the reader to understand the psyche and intention of an unknown author is far less than the obligation of an author to consider how his or her words might sound to readers who don't know the writer's personality or intentions.

I admit, I fail at this far too often, but I think that by far the greater burden belongs on the writer.


Which is why I said I was fine with Dave's edit of my post in the first place. :-) I just have a thorough dislike for the act of other people telling me what I mean when I say or type something.
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Re: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by TheSunWillComeOut » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:06 pm

BobF wrote:
Winchell Factor wrote:
BobF wrote:
brick wrote:You didn't make a negative comment. You mocked her. It's rude and it's immature and you seem to think that because a close friend of yours in college was ok with something similar it's ok? Word to the wise: Tossing behaviors at total strangers online based on the fact that your college bestie was cool with it isn't a good game plan.


Perfect timing! I was just thinking this morning that the internet was so devoid of people who can take a complete strangers written words and then tell the writer exactly what they meant by those words. Welcome to JBoard, brick!

My biggest error here was posting in a style that I would normally use for my Facebook posts where the people who know me know that I'm a very positive person with a goofball streak in me. If Laura ever happens to read the post in question, I apologize, I meant no offense.

Without wanting to pick a fight--and, honestly, I don't want to--I think the burden really goes the other way. I think the obligation of the reader to understand the psyche and intention of an unknown author is far less than the obligation of an author to consider how his or her words might sound to readers who don't know the writer's personality or intentions.

I admit, I fail at this far too often, but I think that by far the greater burden belongs on the writer.


Which is why I said I was fine with Dave's edit of my post in the first place. :-) I just have a thorough dislike for the act of other people telling me what I mean when I say or type something.


Alright, then:

Tell us all what you were trying to express. In your own words. I'm not baiting you to prove a point, I'd just like you to walk us through your thought pattern when you typed your post and hit "Submit."

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Re: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by BobF » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:20 pm

TheSunWillComeOut wrote:Alright, then:

Tell us all what you were trying to express. In your own words. I'm not baiting you to prove a point, I'd just like you to walk us through your thought pattern when you typed your post and hit "Submit."


"Laura" as I imagine she would say it, only based upon viewing part of her shows Friday (the 9th) and Monday. I'll admit, I can see where people who don't know me would think it's in a mocking tone, and I guess it technically does fit the definition, but it was more just me being goofy, and I did leave an apology to Laura in this post if she ever reads it.
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Re: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by TheSunWillComeOut » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:23 pm

BobF wrote:
TheSunWillComeOut wrote:Alright, then:

Tell us all what you were trying to express. In your own words. I'm not baiting you to prove a point, I'd just like you to walk us through your thought pattern when you typed your post and hit "Submit."


"Laura" as I imagine she would say it, only based upon viewing part of her shows Friday (the 9th) and Monday. I'll admit, I can see where people who don't know me would think it's in a mocking tone, and I guess it technically does fit the definition, but it was more just me being goofy, and I did leave an apology to Laura in this post if she ever reads it.


And this is why I asked you for your own thoughts:

"I guess it technically does fit the definition"

Which is why people interpreted it that way. It may not have been your INTENTION, which is a different matter, but there was no error in the semantics here.

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Re: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by BobF » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:40 pm

Okay, I just got sent a video that pretty much was totally making fun of her. Had I seen that before, I would have known better. I didn't realize what kind of reaction she was invoking on the interwebs*.

*And, yes, I am mocking George W. Bush, political figures are still fair game, right?
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Post by harrumph » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:44 pm

Humorous remarks are always tricky to deliver, our brains have to calculate the context first and ask a bunch of questions to figure out if the joke will work or not, will it come across the way we intended, etc.

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Re: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by jeff6286 » Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:08 pm

BobF wrote:
brick wrote:You didn't make a negative comment. You mocked her. It's rude and it's immature and you seem to think that because a close friend of yours in college was ok with something similar it's ok? Word to the wise: Tossing behaviors at total strangers online based on the fact that your college bestie was cool with it isn't a good game plan.


Perfect timing! I was just thinking this morning that the internet was so devoid of people who can take a complete strangers written words and then tell the writer exactly what they meant by those words. Welcome to JBoard, brick!

My biggest error here was posting in a style that I would normally use for my Facebook posts where the people who know me know that I'm a very positive person with a goofball streak in me. If Laura ever happens to read the post in question, I apologize, I meant no offense.


In the same post where you apologize and say that you meant no offense, you're sarcastically criticizing another poster for daring to take issue with the words that you wrote. To me, this doesn't show any contrition at all, making your apology look completely disingenuous. Also, I love that phrasing, "If Laura ever happens to read it, I apologize." So as long as she doesn't see it, you're off the hook, and no apology necessary?

If you really felt bad about it, you could apologize, and leave it at that, but it seems pretty clear that this is not the case.

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Post by BobF » Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:21 pm

jeff6286 wrote:In the same post where you apologize and say that you meant no offense, you're sarcastically criticizing another poster for daring to take issue with the words that you wrote. To me, this doesn't show any contrition at all, making your apology look completely disingenuous. Also, I love that phrasing, "If Laura ever happens to read it, I apologize." So as long as she doesn't see it, you're off the hook, and no apology necessary?

If you really felt bad about it, you could apologize, and leave it at that, but it seems pretty clear that this is not the case.


No. My apology is specific to Laura. IMHO, she is really the only one who genuinely deserves an apology, not a person who goes off on me. :-)

As far as being "off the hook", what would you have me do, try to find Laura's e-mail address or home phone number and e-mail or call in an apology to her?
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Re: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by brick » Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:31 pm

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BobF wrote:
jeff6286 wrote:In the same post where you apologize and say that you meant no offense, you're sarcastically criticizing another poster for daring to take issue with the words that you wrote. To me, this doesn't show any contrition at all, making your apology look completely disingenuous. Also, I love that phrasing, "If Laura ever happens to read it, I apologize." So as long as she doesn't see it, you're off the hook, and no apology necessary?

If you really felt bad about it, you could apologize, and leave it at that, but it seems pretty clear that this is not the case.


No. My apology is specific to Laura. IMHO, she is really the only one who genuinely deserves an apology, not a person who goes off on me. :-)

As far as being "off the hook", what would you have me do, try to find Laura's e-mail address or home phone number and e-mail or call in an apology to her?


If you think my comments to you constitute someone "going off on you", you might just be too delicate for the internet.

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Re: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by BobF » Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:36 pm

brick wrote:.
BobF wrote:No. My apology is specific to Laura. IMHO, she is really the only one who genuinely deserves an apology, not a person who goes off on me. :-)

As far as being "off the hook", what would you have me do, try to find Laura's e-mail address or home phone number and e-mail or call in an apology to her?


If you think my comments to you constitute someone "going off on you", you might just be too delicate for the internet.


Just most convenient words that came to mind. Enjoy your Thanksgiving (and no, that is NOT sarcasm).
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Post by mrexley » Wed Nov 25, 2015 5:03 pm

Decent game for me -- 52 R (all 27 in J!), 0 W

Could not come up with: sock, Jimmy Buffett, Cormac McCarthy, reminiscing, Something Wicked...

Like many others, I also had Clint Eastwood for FJ!
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Post by opusthepenguin » Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:13 pm

I think BobF's been around long enough that we can give him SOME benefit of the doubt, yeah? I thought his comment somewhat ill-considered. But this response seems way out of proportion to me. (Please don't try to re-explain your positions. I get it. If you think I don't, let's assume I never will and leave it at that.) I think there were less nuclear ways of pursuing this discussion. At this point I'm more worried about losing a valued boardie than about scaring off Laura. If I were Laura, I'd be scared off by this discussion anyway. I'd be a lot less scared by a quick comment to BobF that this might not be the time or the way to express his goofball streak.

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Post by econgator » Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:34 pm

opusthepenguin wrote:I think BobF's been around long enough that we can give him SOME benefit of the doubt, yeah? I thought his comment somewhat ill-considered. But this response seems way out of proportion to me. (Please don't try to re-explain your positions. I get it. If you think I don't, let's assume I never will and leave it at that.) I think there were less nuclear ways of pursuing this discussion. At this point I'm more worried about losing a valued boardie than about scaring off Laura. If I were Laura, I'd be scared off by this discussion anyway. I'd be a lot less scared by a quick comment to BobF that this might not be the time or the way to express his goofball streak.



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Post by seaborgium » Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:11 pm

RichmondJ wrote:
Bamaman wrote:Did you get Qantas in LL the other day?
seaborgium wrote:Definitely.


We see what you did there.

Thanks. Given this is the internet, I half expected someone to respond with a joke that hit readers over the head as if I hadn't been trying to be clever in the first place.

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Post by Winchell Factor » Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:45 pm

seaborgium wrote:
RichmondJ wrote:
Bamaman wrote:Did you get Qantas in LL the other day?
seaborgium wrote:Definitely.


We see what you did there.

Thanks. Given this is the internet, I half expected someone to respond with a joke that hit readers over the head as if I hadn't been trying to be clever in the first place.

[mumble]Actually, I didn't see what you did there until RichmondJ pointed it out for me. But I see it now. Better say something though....[/mumble]

Hey, clever!

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Post by dhkendall » Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:35 pm

Winchell Factor wrote:
seaborgium wrote:
RichmondJ wrote:
Bamaman wrote:Did you get Qantas in LL the other day?
seaborgium wrote:Definitely.


We see what you did there.

Thanks. Given this is the internet, I half expected someone to respond with a joke that hit readers over the head as if I hadn't been trying to be clever in the first place.

[mumble]Actually, I didn't see what you did there until RichmondJ pointed it out for me. But I see it now. Better say something though....[/mumble]

Hey, clever!


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Post by mrexley » Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:44 pm

dhkendall wrote:*ticks the "still over my head, sadly, considering how many people see it" box*

(Although since I also got Vaughn's nickname and many of y'all didn't, I'm calling it even.)


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Post by Lore » Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:54 pm

George Clooney's nominations:

Best Director: Good Night, and Good Luck
Best Original Screenplay: Good Night, and Good Luck
Best Actor in a Leading Role: Michael Clayton, Up in the Air, The Descendants
Best Adapted Screenplay: The Ides of March
Best Picture: Argo (he was one of the producers) (won)

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:12 am

Lore wrote:George Clooney's nominations:

Best Director: Good Night, and Good Luck
Best Original Screenplay: Good Night, and Good Luck
Best Actor in a Leading Role: Michael Clayton, Up in the Air, The Descendants
Best Adapted Screenplay: The Ides of March
Best Picture: Argo (he was one of the producers) (won)


Yep, none of those titles are familiar to me in the slightest.
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