Wednesday, December 21, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

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Re: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby opusthepenguin » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:12 pm

Today's game should be available in 90 minutes or less:

https://vimeo.com/196673113/
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Re: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby opusthepenguin » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:18 pm

dhkendall wrote:Why is Bacchus or Dionysus both accepted? Bacchus was the only one that came to mind for me but I clammed because I was positive he was a Roman god and I couldn't think of his Greek equivalent at the time. With s "Greek god" category, unless I'm wrong about Bacchus' nationality, he shouldn't be accepted.

I'm not sure I understand the decision either. But I seem to recall they've at least been consistent on this point. They always accept Bacchus even when they specify a Greek god.

From the same category, it really sounded as though Jennifer said something like Hephaesius rather than Hephaestus. I was surprised her response was accepted.
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Re: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

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Re: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby Bamaman » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:20 pm

So why was Vulcan negged?
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Re: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby opusthepenguin » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:22 pm

Bamaman wrote:So why was Vulcan negged?

He's not a Greek god. For some reason they think Bacchus is and, if I'm remembering, always have.
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Re: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby Kenny » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:32 pm

opusthepenguin wrote:
Bamaman wrote:So why was Vulcan negged?

He's not a Greek god. For some reason they think Bacchus is and, if I'm remembering, always have.

This is why my eyes glaze over when the category pertains to Greek or Roman mythology. There seems to be no consistency on right & wrong responses.
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Re: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby Bamaman » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:35 pm

opusthepenguin wrote:
Bamaman wrote:So why was Vulcan negged?

He's not a Greek god. For some reason they think Bacchus is and, if I'm remembering, always have.


I understand that but it didn't seem to matter elsewhere.
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Re: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby IronNeck » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:35 pm

Cindy's fantastic run comes to an end. When I first saw the notice on the Jeopardy website, I figured she would just be a contestant for one episode. I was pleasantly surprised when she won, defeating a super-champion in the process. Obviously, her becoming a 6-day super-champion herself was even more surprising and impressive.

Really hope that Jeopardy donates the minimum Cindy would have made in the ToC, $5,000, to her cancer charity.

And like others, I was surprised they accepted "Bacchus", when the category asked for the Greek god. "Oh, it appears they accept the Roman analogue, too!" Then, just one clue later, they neg "Vulcan" instead of the Greek "Hephaestus". Inconsistent, to say the least.

LT of ragtimin, legerdemain, and Lumiere

Missed yet another FJ, going with Haiti. Again, impressed that all three got it.

The new champion, Sam, put himself at serious risk of losing for the exact same reason Julia did yesterday. Seriously, he gets a literature DD on $800, a category he proved himself to be at least decent with, and only bets $1000?!
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Re: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby Volante » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:48 pm

Five clues left uncovered, just like on Monday. But no Tony Bennett category. Huh.
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Re: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby alan tiger » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:59 pm

well done, cindy.
you showed us what it means to be a class act.
r.i.p.
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Re: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby thenextofken » Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:07 pm

I found it interesting that Alex said, "What you don't know is" during Cindy's tribute. I'm betting alot more people knew about Cindy's plight than he realized, because the story seemed to be all over the news.
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Re: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby This Is Kirk! » Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:15 pm

Saddest Jeopardy! ever, but Cindy sure did give it a heck of a run.

For FJ I wrote down Bahamas, but very nearly changed my answer to Jamaica at the last second. Luckily for me I ran out of time!
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Re: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby CailinGaoilge » Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:17 pm

thenextofken wrote:I found it interesting that Alex said, "What you don't know is" during Cindy's tribute. I'm betting alot more people knew about Cindy's plight than he realized, because the story seemed to be all over the news.


It has been, yes - but there are still people commenting on the J! Facebook page today that they didn't know. Was curious, so I took a look.

(And some insensitive genius is suggesting that Jerry Slowik should be offered the TOC place Cindy should have had. Words fail me).

An amazing run by an amazing woman. I did wonder if she was running out of adrenaline today; she seemed quieter and slower on the buzzer, and made a couple of pronunciation slips that cost her money (and possibly the game). But this was her third game in a row on her second filming day, so hardly surprising if she was exhausted.

I feel privileged to have had the opportunity to watch Cindy, and only wish I could have seen her play in full health. Who knows what she could have achieved?
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Re: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby opusthepenguin » Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:18 pm

Bamaman wrote:
opusthepenguin wrote:
Bamaman wrote:So why was Vulcan negged?

He's not a Greek god. For some reason they think Bacchus is and, if I'm remembering, always have.


I understand that but it didn't seem to matter elsewhere.


I believe Bacchus is the only one they do this with. As near as I can make out, it's simplistic and incorrect to say that Bacchus is the Roman name for the Greek god Dionysus. Rather, BOTH names are of Greek origin and were used to refer to the same god. The Greek playwright Euripedes, for example, wrote a tragedy called The Bacchae, a title that refers to the female followers of Dionysus. At some point Rome adopted the Greek name Bacchus but not the Greek name Dionysus, thus creating the perception that Bacchus is a Roman name with Latin roots. It isn't. It's as Greek as Dionysus and un-neggable in these circumstances.

This is different from say the purely Greek name Aphrodite corresponding to the purely Latin name Venus.
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Re: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby goatman » Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:38 pm

Goodbye Cindy... you are greatly missed.

When it comes to Greek v Roman godz, the clue suggests which one they want. Aphrodite was Greek goddess, ergo hubby Hephaestus. Venus >> Vulcan.
Dionysus/Bacchus are the only interchangeables, as both names were adopted in both cultures, an exception to the general rule.

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Re: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby BigDaddyMatty » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:29 am

Coryat: $36,000
45 R/0 W
DD: 3/3
FJ: :(
LT: nickel-and-dimin', ragtimin', legerdemain, take the cake, volleyball, Biltmore

Well done, Cindy. You are the epitome of a superchamp.

This Is Kirk! wrote:For FJ I wrote down Bahamas, but very nearly changed my answer to Jamaica at the last second. Luckily for me I ran out of time!

Precisely the opposite for me. I figured it had to be a current or former Commonwealth country. Jamaica immediately sprang to mind. Right at the end of the Think Music, I thought of The Bahamas. I know that The Bahamas are closer, being right off the coast of Florida, but I didn't have time to change my response. Oh, well. Not the saddest part of my experience watching this episode.

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opusthepenguin wrote:
Bamaman wrote:So why was Vulcan negged?

He's not a Greek god. For some reason they think Bacchus is and, if I'm remembering, always have.


I understand that but it didn't seem to matter elsewhere.

The category was Built Like A Greek God.
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Re: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby mxc_takeshi » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:41 am

33 right.

Santa (4), Women (3), Simon (2), Where (4), Heart (3), Sleeve (3)
French (1), _The_ (2), Book (4), Greek (2), 1895 (3), Del (2)

Lach Trash: ragtimin', take the cake, volleyball, Biltmore Hotel

I said Belize instead.

RIP Cindy and bless you for your courage and charity.
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Re: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby silverscreentest » Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:31 am

THIS ASHEVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA MANSION WAS NEARLY FINISHED AFTER 6 YEARS, SO THE VANDERBILTS MOVED IN


What is a Vanderbilt down by the river?
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Re: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby macrae1234 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:47 am

Combining 2 categories sleeve and French RCMP/GRC. Gendarmerie Royale du Canada,
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Re: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby hbomb1947 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:17 am

Another indication of how close Cindy came to win # 7: on the $1,600 "Built like a Greek god" clue in DJ, Jennifer's pronunciation of "Hephaestus" (which sounded like "Heh-fay-shus?") was accepted by the judges in a very close call that IMO could have gone either way. (Alex's ruling was "Close enough"; I feel she may well have changed the pronunciation to one that doesn't sufficiently match up with the god's name.) If the judges had ruled against Jennifer, Cindy would have had a free shot for a rebound, since Sam had already negged with "Vulcan." It can't be assumed Cindy would have scooped up the rebound, especially since her condition was sadly affecting her pronunciation and her recall. But if she grabbed that $1,600 and if the rest of the DJ round had proceeded the same as it actually did (which of course also cannot be assumed), Cindy would have been in the lead going into a triple-get FJ.
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