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Monday, January 2, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby Archivists » Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:30 am

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Double Jeopardy! Round

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Final Jeopardy! Round

Postby theFJguy » Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:31 am

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
Between 1920 & 1939 its presidents included Leon Bourgeois, Tevfik Aras & Carlos Saavedra Lamas

Mukund Marathe: 7800+3000=10800
Gavin Mulligan: 16800-1000=15800 (New champ)
Katie Carter: 6200-6199=1

Correct response:
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League of Nations (Gavin – United Nations) (Katie – United Nations)


Daily Doubles
Katie: 2800+2000
Mukund: 5400-1000
Mukund: 5200-1000

Coryats
Mukund: 9800
Gavin: 16800
Katie: 4800

Combined: 31,400
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Re: Monday, January 2, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby Bamaman » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:21 pm

I got FJ right away and was surprised two went with the U.N.
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Re: Monday, January 2, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby opusthepenguin » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:56 pm

Bamaman wrote:I got FJ right away and was surprised two went with the U.N.

I thought of the UN, knew it was wrong, and failed to follow the bread crumbs from there. If I'd thought of League of Nations, I'd definitely have gone with it. Instead I went with FIFA because a silly long shot is better than no shot.
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Re: Monday, January 2, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby opusthepenguin » Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:04 pm

Anybody else think the neg on protestant work ethic was unfair? Here's the clue:

    MAX WEBER, A FOUNDER OF MODERN SOCIOLOGY,
    WROTE OF THIS RELIGIOUS "ETHIC AND THE
    SPIRIT OF CAPITALISM
Ok, I concede that they appear to be looking for an exact title. Is that 100% required by J! rules though? I mean, there's no question that Weber wrote about the protestant work ethic in that book. (Also the Calvinist work ethic and maybe the puritan work ethic, which is why I clammed.) At the very least, the clue is unfortunately worded so as to require "protestant" and disallow "protestant work ethic". Is the title of that work more famous than I realized so that we should all know the title as well as the concept?
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Re: Monday, January 2, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby Bamaman » Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:07 pm

opusthepenguin wrote:
Bamaman wrote:I got FJ right away and was surprised two went with the U.N.

I thought of the UN, knew it was wrong, and failed to follow the bread crumbs from there. If I'd thought of League of Nations, I'd definitely have gone with it. Instead I went with FIFA because a silly long shot is better than no shot.


Not a bad guess, I think they were Latin sounding names. What gave it to me was the years. Right after
WWI to right before WWII.
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Re: Monday, January 2, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby opusthepenguin » Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:11 pm

Sorry to see Mukund go. Congrats to the new champ.

Is "tesseract" definitively wrong as a name for an Einstein-Rosen bridge?

So Gladiator is the most recent sword and sandals pic to win Best Picture. What are the previous ones?
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I guess Ben-Hur fits. Anything else? Spartacus was nominated but didn't win.
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Re: Monday, January 2, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby opusthepenguin » Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:19 pm

Bamaman wrote:
opusthepenguin wrote:
Bamaman wrote:I got FJ right away and was surprised two went with the U.N.

I thought of the UN, knew it was wrong, and failed to follow the bread crumbs from there. If I'd thought of League of Nations, I'd definitely have gone with it. Instead I went with FIFA because a silly long shot is better than no shot.


Not a bad guess, I think they were Latin sounding names. What gave it to me was the years. Right after
WWI to right before WWII.


Yeah, that's a dead giveaway. It was right in front of me and I just didn't see it. When Mrs. Penguin said League of Nations at the end of the music, all the pieces fell in place. I knew instantly she was correct.

So the only thing I can congratulate myself on is that I knew beyond any doubt that United Nations could not possibly be correct.

I seem to recall being surprised in the past by contestants seeming not to know about the League of Nations. I thought that was a basic piece of history that everyone knew in general outline. Wilson starts the League of Nations after WWI. It goes bust. Then the United Nations starts after WWII.
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Re: Monday, January 2, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby TenPoundHammer » Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:28 pm

The non-sequitur joke sounded like something from an episode of Invader Zim. Something something radioactive rubber pants.

Oddly, I missed the first two in "War" but got the next 3. NHO "warning track".

Bean + South America had me stuck on coffee. Lach Trash on Bourbon. Despite my love of peppers, I didn't know Cayenne.

Why is Venus hotter than Mercury? That doesn't make any sense.

Surprisingly, I ran the Genre category.

How about a TOM or something in this clue, huh?!
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Re: Monday, January 2, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby jpr281 » Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:28 pm

Thank you Ghostbusters for teaching me ectoplasm.

"Baloney" a correct response for Bologna?

2/3 players writing down the UN? :?
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Re: Monday, January 2, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby xxaaaxx » Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:42 pm

LTaM warning with 9 clues left in the J! round? Normally, I'd chalk it up to yet another video category that we were going to finish come hell or high water, but then we ran out of time in the DJ round too. I wonder if they would've finished it if the contestants had left it for last.

Speaking of which, once again we get conestants in danger of being locked out, but heading to the top/middle of a category. And then no one knows or even takes a desperation WAG at Colombia. *sigh*

Instaget FJ...
Bamaman wrote:What gave it to me was the years. Right after WWI to right before WWII.

Yup.
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Re: Monday, January 2, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby nlw44 » Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:08 pm

Well, that was certainly a yelling-at-the-tv moment. I can see not getting League of Nations, but putting down the United Nations? Knowing it was started after WWII and recognizing names of it's leaders (not even necessarily remembering them cold) is pretty much Jeopardy 101.

I was happily surprised to see, however, that they got to almost all the clues in DJ after beginning with the very slowest category, which then required Alex's contractual plug of the show to reduce time even further.

I would also add that the champ (last, not new) had one of the greatest interview segments it has been my privilege to hear. I enjoyed the first one about the police-calling cat, but the last one was just sublime. I was laughing so hard, I missed the first clue on the return to the game.
"And has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!"
He chortled in his joy.

Lewis Carroll, "Jabberwocky"
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Re: Monday, January 2, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby goatman » Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:18 pm

1920 - 1939: interwar years... instaget. UN came after WWII... owtch! Odd lot of boards. mere 39R for goats. "Lifestyle" and "Pop Cx" will kill me one day.

LT: Demography, 1965 Civil Rights > Voting & Belize = Brit Honduras. Grats to the new champ on a runaway! :)
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Re: Monday, January 2, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby morbeedo » Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:18 pm

several unfortunate slips tonight: the light between "the oceans", demographics and exoplasm (wondering if the last one is an acceptable variant)

just ugh
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Re: Monday, January 2, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby opusthepenguin » Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:21 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:Why is Venus hotter than Mercury?

BECAUSE ICE CREAM HAS NO BONES!!!
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Re: Monday, January 2, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby MarkBarrett » Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:49 pm

Mukund being married for 36 years had me thinking he would win a prize against the carnival age guesser with ease.

If Mukund had remembered the category of COMPANY "B" I wonder if he could have figured out Best Buy? $2000 more for the FJ! round would have been enough to win on the sole solve. Wormhole instead of tesseract would have done the trick as well.

Joe Montana was the $400 for NFL QUARTERBACKS to go with that Cowboy, Eli & Peyton, and Fran Tarkenton. Steve Young was the J!6. I'll guess that Tom Brady was in the $200 unseen clue.

opusthepenguin wrote:
Bamaman wrote:I got FJ right away and was surprised two went with the U.N.

I thought of the UN, knew it was wrong, and failed to follow the bread crumbs from there. If I'd thought of League of Nations, I'd definitely have gone with it. Instead I went with FIFA because a silly long shot is better than no shot.


Your post works for me except substitute OAS. The other thoughts I had were Red Cross and some kind of numbered Column from Spain.
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Re: Monday, January 2, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby Golf » Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:51 pm

Sadly Mukund threw away another win due to horrible DD wagering. If you're not confident and want to go small, bet the $5 minimum. Had he done that both times he still would have been within range going into FJ and then won on the sole solve. Of course the end result doesn't always reward good or bad wagering, but this is a great example of knowing how to properly go small can win a game. Most just assume the $995 won't make any difference.
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Re: Monday, January 2, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby rpg » Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:03 pm

morbeedo wrote:several unfortunate slips tonight: the light between "the oceans", demographics and exoplasm (wondering if the last one is an acceptable variant)

just ugh


I wouldn't be surprised if "demographics" were accepted, at least.

Surprised to see two UN guesses. Thought the League of Nations was a WECIB? kind of answer.
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Re: Monday, January 2, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby Category 13 » Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:09 pm

xxaaaxx wrote:LTaM warning with 9 clues left in the J! round? Normally, I'd chalk it up to yet another video category that we were going to finish come hell or high water, but then we ran out of time in the DJ round too. I wonder if they would've finished it if the contestants had left it for last.

I was surprised they only left one clue in that round, given the time taken dragging out the Star Talk category. When are contestants gonna learn, save those guest video categories for last?
niw44 wrote:they got to almost all the clues in DJ after beginning with the very slowest category, which then required Alex's contractual plug of the show to reduce time even further.

And he had to give that detailed explanation of Katie's score after her DD. grrrr
I was doubley irked for all the clues left in J!. Mostly because I wanted to see that last Super Bowl QB clue. Being a top row clue, it was probably going to be an easily recognized name like Brady, Bradshaw, Aikmen or Elway. I was hoping Gavin would get back to it but he lost control of the board for the longest time after Mukund stole Fran Tarkenton from him. I wonder if Gavin knew that one or not.
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