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I thought the clue was asking for a response that was the same in both as a word, and my response Innocent is as close to innocens as pious is to pius, so I don't feel so bad about it. Unfortunately there hasn't been a Pope Innocent since the 18th C... :roll:
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doihavetoreally wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:01 pm Didn't Nobel winners receive moolah in 60s?
I had to look this up because I didn't want to imagine Alex being wrong. He wasn't. Well he might have been about the air force.

The Nobel Prize comes with a cash reward of 1.2 million US Dollars. I can't find the value of the prize in the '60s but in the '80s it was $350,000. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Prize#Award_money

The Nobel Prize in 1967 was split between 3 people and Rebecca's grandfather would not have won more than $120,000. The Tournament of Champions gives out $250,000 so she would have won more.

Congratulations to Rebecca for winning another game. Also congratulations to her grandfather George Wald for being recognized for his discoveries concerning the primary physiological and chemical processes in the eye.

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MattKnowles wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:38 pm
doihavetoreally wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:01 pm Didn't Nobel winners receive moolah in 60s?
I had to look this up because I didn't want to imagine Alex being wrong. He wasn't. Well he might have been about the air force.

The Nobel Prize comes with a cash reward of 1.2 million US Dollars. I can't find the value of the prize in the '60s but in the '80s it was $350,000. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Prize#Award_money

The Nobel Prize in 1967 was split between 3 people and Rebecca's grandfather would not have won more than $120,000. The Tournament of Champions gives out $250,000 so she would have won more.
According to an inflation calculator, $120,000 had the purchasing power of $875,220 today. George Wald also won a litany of other honors with large cash prizes associated with them, like the Lasker Award.

And his salary as a Nobel Prize winning, tenured professor at Harvard would, factoring in inflation, be more than the vast majority of superchampions on the show win.

So yes, Alex Trebek was wrong. Rebecca has her work cut out for her if she wants to make more money than her grandfather. :)
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econgator wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:32 pm Pius is an English word?
This confounded me as well. But
Benedict = Benedictus
Francis = Franciscus
Pius = Pius (I guess)

And (damn!) Innocent = Innocentius
Kind of lame, I think.
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I pre-called Pius when the FJ category was revealed...and darn if I didn't decide to stick with Pius right when Alex began reading the clue! Always terrific to do that with a triple stumper. :mrgreen: :ugeek:

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Maven wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:58 pm I pre-called Pius when the FJ category was revealed...and darn if I didn't decide to stick with Pius right when Alex began reading the clue!
Same here!

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Wrong Alex. The closest relative to Pius in English is "Pious". Not a name. Leo is a very common name. Leo McCrary, Leo Durocher, Leo Gorcey, ad infinitum. What a loser final.
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a1srvng wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:01 am Wrong Alex. The closest relative to Pius in English is "Pious". Not a name. Leo is a very common name. Leo McCrary, Leo Durocher, Leo Gorcey, ad infinitum. What a loser final.
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alietr wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:48 pmCurse those contestants for not finishing the geography category!
Sure way to get me to root against you is to leave geography clues on the board. :)
floridagator wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:23 pm Instaget. The pope has been named Pius for most of the time the U.S. has been a country.
That seemed like a surprising fact, so I looked it up. Doing very rough math (so I could be off by several years), the Pope has not been named Pius for 107 years of the existence of the United States, so "most" is arguable". ("Majority", sure (if my math is anywhere close to right), but a slim one.)

I did get the Final after switching from Paul at around second 20.

Another question, what lead to to Phelps in the $400 biography clue? Other than the fact that he was a swimmer and the name of the book, [TPH]it could literally be a billion famous swimmers{/TPH]. (While Phelps is definitely a top level clue, in my mind so are Mark Spitz and Greg Louganis, but I may be showing my age). Was there anything pointing to a current swimmer, or does one have to know the book title? (There, TPH, I saved you a rant.)
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econgator wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:32 pm Pius is an English word?
Irrelevant, no? They call him Pius in English, and they call him Pius in Latin. That's all that's being asked.
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Wikipedia lists the names of the popes in English and Latin, notably Pius / Pius
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dhkendall wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:25 am Another question, what lead to to Phelps in the $400 biography clue? Other than the fact that he was a swimmer and the name of the book, [TPH]it could literally be a billion famous swimmers{/TPH]. (While Phelps is definitely a top level clue, in my mind so are Mark Spitz and Greg Louganis, but I may be showing my age). Was there anything pointing to a current swimmer, or does one have to know the book title? (There, TPH, I saved you a rant.)
Heh, my only neg of the game was saying "Who is Mark Spitz?" instead of Michael Phelps there. As usual, I failed to note the category name, "Current Biographies", which would heavily point to Phelps. However, you're correct; short of knowing the title of his book, one couldn't pinpoint it to him solely through "famous swimmer".
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IronNeck wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:41 am
dhkendall wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:25 am Another question, what lead to to Phelps in the $400 biography clue? Other than the fact that he was a swimmer and the name of the book, [TPH]it could literally be a billion famous swimmers{/TPH]. (While Phelps is definitely a top level clue, in my mind so are Mark Spitz and Greg Louganis, but I may be showing my age). Was there anything pointing to a current swimmer, or does one have to know the book title? (There, TPH, I saved you a rant.)
Heh, my only neg of the game was saying "Who is Mark Spitz?" instead of Michael Phelps there. As usual, I failed to note the category name, "Current Biographies", which would heavily point to Phelps. However, you're correct; short of knowing the title of his book, one couldn't pinpoint it to him solely through "famous swimmer".
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dhkendall wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:25 am(While Phelps is definitely a top level clue, in my mind so are Mark Spitz and Greg Louganis, but I may be showing my age).
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a1srvng wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:01 am Wrong Alex. The closest relative to Pius in English is "Pious". Not a name. Leo is a very common name. Leo McCrary,
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floridagator wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:23 pm Instaget. The pope has been named Pius for most of the time the U.S. has been a country.
That seemed like a surprising fact, so I looked it up. Doing very rough math (so I could be off by several years), the Pope has not been named Pius for 107 years of the existence of the United States, so "most" is arguable". ("Majority", sure (if my math is anywhere close to right), but a slim one.)
According to the list of popes on Wikipedia:
  • Pius VI, 24 years, 195 days
  • Pius VII, 23 years, 159 days
  • Pius VIII, 1 year, 244 days
  • Pius IX, 31 years, 236 days
  • Pius X, 11 years, 16 days
  • Pius XI, 17 years, 4 days
  • Pius XII, 19 years, 221 days
That sums to 128 years, 345 days, covering MOST of the time the U.S. has been a country (1776-present).
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IronNeck wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:41 am
dhkendall wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:25 am Another question, what lead to to Phelps in the $400 biography clue? Other than the fact that he was a swimmer and the name of the book, [TPH]it could literally be a billion famous swimmers{/TPH]. (While Phelps is definitely a top level clue, in my mind so are Mark Spitz and Greg Louganis, but I may be showing my age). Was there anything pointing to a current swimmer, or does one have to know the book title? (There, TPH, I saved you a rant.)
Heh, my only neg of the game was saying "Who is Mark Spitz?" instead of Michael Phelps there. As usual, I failed to note the category name, "Current Biographies", which would heavily point to Phelps. However, you're correct; short of knowing the title of his book, one couldn't pinpoint it to him solely through "famous swimmer".
The clue said "legendary" and that word didn't seem to fit someone who was active last year.
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Our local station cut into J! just as the DJ! round started, in order to cover the president's "campaign rally". I was not happy because their coverage was of the presidential motorcade arriving and the president entering the building. Other stations waited until he started his speech.

As for FJ! I came up with Pius from the clue posted here.
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I'm not sure if this is the time to throw the BS Flag. Given the date (mid-20th C.), the first pope I thought of was Pius. I immediately rejected that because Pius (in Latin) is not spelled the same as Pious (in English). I proceeded to mentally run through John, Paul, John Paul (twice), Benedict, and Francis, and determined the clue has no correct answer.

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Isn't there some declension of Benedictus that would end up being just plain Benedict?

Did anyone else think that the festival in MIchigan would've been in Frankenmuth? When I think about German or Dutch festivals in MIchigan, that seems like the go-to touristy place to have them.
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Cat Hammarskjold wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:55 am Isn't there some declension of Benedictus that would end up being just plain Benedict?

Did anyone else think that the festival in MIchigan would've been in Frankenmuth? When I think about German or Dutch festivals in MIchigan, that seems like the go-to touristy place to have them.
Nah. Dutch stuff in Michigan is Pavlovian for Holland (for some strange reason).
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