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Some people might want to put their right foot forward from here on out...

2. ART IMITATING LIFE
Tropic Thunder taught us, to win an acting Oscar, you don't go full retard. While it's true that characters with mental handicaps fall under the category 'Oscar Bait' very well, there's a subclass that gets even more recognition: real life people. I was originally planning to ask for anyone who's been nominated for playing a real person...then I saw the list. So, for this question...
Name a Best Actor or Best Actress winner who won for playing a real, factual person (living or dead).
Bonus! For one point off, name who they played to win. For an 800 on the SAT Essay section, in three pages describe how the thespian made a mockery of history.

Well, no one went for the essay section, and no one dropped either. There were a LOT of singletons here, too. I expected as much, because, seriously, there's a TON of these. Pick a random year, 1999 to 2010, you've got a 92% chance of picking a year where one of them was playing a real person (the oddball is 2001). I also thank you for not making me deal with edge cases like Willie Stark / Huey Long.

Asterisks (*) represent correct responses for the bonus point, given in parenthesis.

Daniel Day Lewis (Christy Brown) (4)

econgator*
gamawire*
teapot37*
Turd Ferguson*

Charlize Theron (Aileen Wournos) (3)

barandall800*
billy pilgrim*
Paucle*

Ben Kingsley (Gandhi) (2)

Peggles*
ayeembored*

Hillary Swank (Brandon Teena) (2)

fowlerism*
goforthetie*

Adrian Brody (Wladyslaw Szpilman) (1)

Vanya

Barbra Streisand (Fanny Brice) (1)

seaborgium*

F Murray Abraham (Antonio Salieri) (1)

opusthepenguin*

Forest Whitaker (Idi Amin) (1)

xxaaxx*

Jamie Foxx (Ray Charles) (1)

amorris525*

Katherine Hepburn (Eleanor of Aquitaine) (1)

Woof*

Paul Muni (Louis Pasteur) (1)

RandyG

Paul Scofield (Thomas More) (1)

bomtr (Not Thomas Becket. Sorry.)

Reese Witherspoon (June Carter) (1)

Bamaman*

Robert DeNiro (Jake LaMotta) (1)

Woppy T*

Sandra Bullock (Leigh Anne Tuohi) (1)
cheezguyty*

Spencer Tracy (Father Flanagan) (1)
MarkBarrett*

Incorrect
Cate Blanchett (Only won for Best Supporting as Katherine Hepburn) - mitchparov
Judi Dench (Iris Murdoch, nominated. Won Best Supporting as Queen Elizabeth) - debramc
Kirk Douglas (Spartacus? Not even nominated. As Van Gogh, nominated but lost) - oddsox
Linda Hunt (Won Best Actress as Billy Kwan, The Year of Living Dangerously, but not a real person) - WRV
Meryl Streep (Nom. for Isak Dineson (and 5 other real people). Her only wins were fictional chars.) - Rackme32

Notable Omissions
George Arliss - Benjamin Disraeli
Charles Laughton - King Henry VIII
Gary Cooper - Sgt. Alvin York
James Cagney - George M. Cohan
Yul Brynner - King Mongkut of Siam
George C. Scott - Gen. George S. Patton (Yep, I totally overlooked the fact he's completely legit for this category.)
Jeremy Irons - Claus von Bulow
Geoffrey Rush - David Helfgott
Philip Seymour Hoffman - Truman Capote
Sean Penn - Harvey Milk
Colin Firth - King George VI
Luise Rainer - Anna Held
Jennifer Jones - Bernadette Soubirous
Ingrid Bergman - Anastasia
Susan Hayward - Barbara Graham
Anne Bancroft - Annie Sullivan
Sissy Spacek - Loretta Lynn
Susan Sarandon - Sister Helen Prejean
Julia Roberts - Erin Brockovich
Nicole Kidman - Virginia Woolf
Helen Mirren - Queen Elizabeth II
Marion Cotillard - Edith Piaf

Standings After Round 2

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Bamaman ......... 0 = 0 + (1 - 1)
amorris525 ...... 2 = 2 + (1 - 1)
goforthetie ..... 2 = 1 + (2 - 1)
xxaaxx .......... 2 = 2 + (1 - 1)
ayeembored ...... 3 = 2 + (2 - 1)
bomtr ........... 3 = 2 + (1 + 0)
Peggles ......... 3 = 2 + (2 - 1)
RandyG .......... 3 = 2 + (1 + 0)
seaborgium ...... 3 = 3 + (1 - 1)
billy pilgrim ... 4 = 2 + (3 - 1)
cheezguyty ...... 4 = 4 + (1 - 1)
gamawire ........ 4 = 1 + (4 - 1)
MarkBarrett ..... 4 = 4 + (1 - 1)
opusthepenguin .. 4 = 4 + (1 - 1)
Paucle .......... 4 = 2 + (3 - 1)
teapot37 ........ 4 = 1 + (4 - 1)
Vanya ........... 4 = 3 + (1 + 0)
Woppy T ......... 4 = 4 + (1 - 1)
barandall800 .... 6 = 4 + (3 - 1)
econgator ....... 7 = 4 + (4 - 1)
Woof ............ 9 = 9 + (1 - 1)
fowlerism ...... 10 = 9 + (2 - 1)
WRV ............ 10 = 1 + (9 + 0)
oddsox ......... 12 = 3 + (9 + 0)
Turd Ferguson .. 12 = 9 + (4 - 1)
mitchparov ..... 13 = 4 + (9 + 0)
Rackme32 ....... 13 = 4 + (9 + 0)
debramc ........ 18 = 9 + (9 + 0)
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Volante wrote: I also thank you for not making me deal with edge cases like Willie Stark / Huey Long.
I briefly considered Gene Hackman as Popeye Doyle.
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Volante wrote: Incorrect
Cate Blanchett (Only won for Best Supporting as Katherine Hepburn) - mitchparov
Today's lesson, which for some reason, I just can't seem to learn, is: READ THE @#%$@$*^ING QUESTION.
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mitchparov wrote:
Volante wrote: Incorrect
Cate Blanchett (Only won for Best Supporting as Katherine Hepburn) - mitchparov
Today's lesson, which for some reason, I just can't seem to learn, is: READ THE @#%$@$*^ING QUESTION.
It doesn't help that the dividing line between "Best Leading" and "Best Supporting" is at best arbitrary and at worst random. It often boils down to whichever award the studio thinks the actor has a better shot at winning.
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I was deciding between Christy Brown and Claus von Bulow and obviously went the wrong way.
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Volante wrote: Sallie Field - Norma Rae Webster
I learned this from Bamaman's TD: Norma Rae is based on a real person, but of a different name, and probably shouldn't count (much like Willie Stark). Thankfully it doesn't matter.

I got a singleton with Hilary Swank on Bamaman's question and figured I may as well go to the well once more... *shakes fist at fowlerism*
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goforthetie wrote:
Volante wrote: Sallie Field - Norma Rae Webster
I learned this from Bamaman's TD: Norma Rae is based on a real person, but of a different name, and probably shouldn't count (much like Willie Stark). Thankfully it doesn't matter.

I got a singleton with Hilary Swank on Bamaman's question and figured I may as well go to the well once more... *shakes fist at fowlerism*
That would explain why the character didn't have a link on the wiki page; I probably assumed Wiki screwed up . (Incidentally, the Ingrid Bergman - Anastasia one "technically" isn't accurate, in the sense that she's "not" playing Anastasia, but she is playing a real life imposter.)
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Spencer Tracy (Father Flanagan) (1)
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This time going old school worked fine. Three joining me for It Happened One Night with Lecter and Co. untouched was not the right time to hit the time machine.
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MarkBarrett wrote:Spencer Tracy (Father Flanagan) (1)
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This time going old school worked fine. Three joining me for It Happened One Night with Lecter and Co. untouched was not the right time to hit the time machine.
Well, you could've thought of that before you submitted your answers, Mr. Inconsiderate!
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I misread something, I thought it had to be after 1980 or something. Even still, had i known it was all-time, I probably couldn't come up with many. This was an awesome question in that regard. Definitely one to test the grey matter! Ask me "who won the Oscar for playing... " almost anyone in that list, and I'd know it. The trick is, of course, knowing three parts: real person, performer, won Oscar?

I had three I was rotating among, and none would've changed my score. (Bamaman and cheezguyty, you're welcome! :P )
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Well, I sure hope I don't lose by a single point. I know damn well Scofield played Thomas More; I just finished reading Wolf Hall, for gods' sake. Cerebral flatulence.
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Looks like I had some cerebral flatulence scoring Mark as well, totally skipping over his bonus.

Scores have been updated and accurate*
(I also took the opportunity to nix Sally Field from the omissions list)

*Well, accurater. 28 entries, a spreadsheet that looks like a Pollock painting, plus I'm making this up as I go, so make sure to check my work :)
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Scoring was delayed as a dingo stole my spreadsheet.

3. THE IRON LADY
There are two types of roles for actresses in Hollywood: the ones Meryl Streep gets, and the ones casting wants Meryl Streep to take. (You really think they wanted Jennifer Lopez in Gigli?) To date, Ms. Streep has racked up a record 16 Oscar nominations, (a not-close-to-a-record 2 wins,) and a career solidly entering it's fourth decade.
Name either a character Streep played that resulted in a nomination OR the movie that character was in.
Be More Specific is in play here. Your answer must be distinguishable as character or film title without a parenthetical otherwise I may misfile your responce.

If I waited a few months, this would easily have 34 right answers.

In retrospect, I should have gone with my first instinct of counting character and movie as the same entry. Bigger sheeps, more valuable singletons. Plus it'd have been easier to list! I wonder if putting this after a category that has a bazillion right answers influenced my final decision.

A Cry in the Dark (Lindy Chamberlain) (3)

opusthepenguin
Turd Ferguson
xxaaxx

Lindy Chamberlain (A Cry in the Dark) (2)

bomtr
Paucle

Karen Silkwood (Silkwood) (2)

econgator
RandyG

Susan Orlean (Adaptation) (2)

goforthetie
WRV

Sophie's Choice (Sophie) (2)

debramc
Woof

The Deer Hunter (Linda) (2)

MarkBarrett
Vanya

Kramer vs. Kramer (Joanna Kramer) (2)

Bamaman
gamawire

Bridges of Madison County (Francesca Johnson) (1)

Woppy T

Doubt (Sister Aloysius Beauvier) (1)

seaborgium

Karen Blixen / Isak Dinesen (Out of Africa) (1)

billy pilgrim

Joanna Kramer (Kramer vs. Kramer) (1)

mitchparov

Music of the Heart (Roberta Guaspari) (1)

barandall800

Out of Africa (Karen Blixen) (1)

Rackme32

Sophie (Sophie's Choice) (1)

Peggles

The French Lieutenant's Woman (Sarah / Anna) (1)

teapot37

Sasheen Littlefeathers (3)

amorris525
ayeembored
fowlerism

Incorrect

A River Runs Through It (Was not in it) - oddsox
It's Complicated (Golden Globe nom only) - cheezguyty

Omissions

Silkwood (Karen Silkwood)
Ironweed (Helen Archer)
Postcards from the Edge (Suzanne Vale)
One True Thing (Kate Gulden)
Adaptation (Susan Orlean)
The Devil Wears Prada (Miranda Priestly)
Julie & Julia (Julia Child)

Linda (The Deer Hunter)
Sarah / Anna (The French Lieutenant's Woman)
Helen Archer (Ironweed)
Suzanne Vale (Postcards from the Edge)
Francesca Johnson (The Bridges of Madison County)
Kate Gulden (One True Thing)
Roberta Guaspari (Music of the Heart)
Miranda Priestly (The Devil Wears Prada)
Sister Aloysius Beauvier (Doubt)
Julia Child (Julie & Julia)

Standings After Round 3

Code: Select all

Bamaman ......... 2 = 0 + (1 - 1) + 2
goforthetie ..... 4 = 1 + (2 - 1) + 2
Peggles ......... 4 = 2 + (2 - 1) + 1
seaborgium ...... 4 = 3 + (1 - 1) + 1
amorris525 ...... 5 = 2 + (1 - 1) + 3
billy pilgrim ... 5 = 2 + (3 - 1) + 1
bomtr ........... 5 = 2 + (1 + 0) + 2
RandyG .......... 5 = 2 + (1 + 0) + 2
teapot37 ........ 5 = 1 + (4 - 1) + 1
Woppy T ......... 5 = 4 + (1 - 1) + 1
xxaaxx .......... 5 = 2 + (1 - 1) + 3
ayeembored ...... 6 = 2 + (2 - 1) + 3
gamawire ........ 6 = 1 + (4 - 1) + 2
MarkBarrett ..... 6 = 4 + (1 - 1) + 2
Paucle .......... 6 = 2 + (3 - 1) + 2
Vanya ........... 6 = 3 + (1 + 0) + 2
barandall800 .... 7 = 4 + (3 - 1) + 1
opusthepenguin .. 7 = 4 + (1 - 1) + 3
econgator ....... 9 = 4 + (4 - 1) + 2
Woof ........... 11 = 9 + (1 - 1) + 2
cheezguyty ..... 12 = 4 + (1 - 1) + 8
WRV ............ 12 = 1 + (9 + 0) + 2
fowlerism ...... 13 = 9 + (2 - 1) + 3
mitchparov ..... 14 = 4 + (9 + 0) + 1
Rackme32 ....... 14 = 4 + (9 + 0) + 1
Turd Ferguson .. 15 = 9 + (4 - 1) + 3
debramc ........ 20 = 9 + (9 + 0) + 2
oddsox ......... 20 = 3 + (9 + 0) + 8
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L'heure, c'est maintenant.

4. SUBTITLED FOR YOUR PROTECTION
The Best Foreign Language Film Oscar is a curious beast. The film must be produced outside the USA and the dialogue must be predominantly non-English. A requirement that lasted up to 2006 was that the language had to be official to the country as well. Confused yet? Or are you still wondering why the entirety of a nation's film output rests solely on the shoulders of one single movie?
Name a country that has won for Best Foreign Language Film
Trivia! The United Kingdom has been nominated twice for this category. Both films were in Welsh.

Incidentally, neither of those Welsh films won. I wish one would at some point; that'd drive people unfamiliar with the bizarre criteria batty. Also, props to those taking advantage of now non-existant countries. I was secretly hoping someone would.

France (9 wins in total) (4)

amorris525
debramc
Rackme32
Woppy T

Italy (10 wins in total) (3)

Bamaman
billy pilgrim
econgator

Sweden (3 wins, all Ingmar Bergman) (3)

fowlerism
gamawire
Paucle

Czechoslovakia (The Shop on Main Street, Closely Watched Trains) (2)

bomtr
RandyG

Germany (Nowhere in Africa, The Lives of Others) (2)

MarkBarrett
xxaaxx

Argentina (The Official Story, The Secret in Their Eyes) (1)

cheezguyty

Canada (The Barbarian Invasions) (1)

Turd Ferguson

Hungary (Mephisto) (1)

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Japan (Departures) (1)

WRV

South Africa (Tsotsi) (1)

teapot37

Soviet Union (War and Peace, Dersu Uzala, Moscow Does Not Believe in Tears)(1)

Vanya

The Netherlands (Character, Antonia's Line, The Assault) (1)

barandall800

Sasheen Littlefeathers (1)

mitchparov

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Brazil (4 nominations) - goforthetie
China (2 nominations) - ayeembored
India (3 nominations) - Peggles
Iran (1 nom: Children of Heaven) - Woof
Mexico (8 nominations) - oddsox
Rashomon (Not a country) - seaborgium

Omitted

Spain
Denmark
Switzerland
West Germany
Russia
Algeria
Czech Republic
Taiwan
Austria
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Côte d'Ivoire

Scores After Round 4

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Bamaman ......... 5 = 0 + (1 - 1) + 2 + 3
teapot37 ........ 6 = 1 + (4 - 1) + 1 + 1
bomtr ........... 7 = 2 + (1 + 0) + 2 + 2
RandyG .......... 7 = 2 + (1 + 0) + 2 + 2
Vanya ........... 7 = 3 + (1 + 0) + 2 + 1
xxaaxx .......... 7 = 2 + (1 - 1) + 3 + 2
barandall800 .... 8 = 4 + (3 - 1) + 1 + 1
billy pilgrim ... 8 = 2 + (3 - 1) + 1 + 3
MarkBarrett ..... 8 = 4 + (1 - 1) + 2 + 2
opusthepenguin .. 8 = 4 + (1 - 1) + 3 + 1
amorris525 ...... 9 = 2 + (1 - 1) + 3 + 4
gamawire ........ 9 = 1 + (4 - 1) + 2 + 3
Paucle .......... 9 = 2 + (3 - 1) + 2 + 3
Woppy T ......... 9 = 4 + (1 - 1) + 1 + 4
econgator ...... 12 = 4 + (4 - 1) + 2 + 3
cheezguyty ..... 13 = 4 + (1 - 1) + 8 + 1
goforthetie .... 13 = 1 + (2 - 1) + 2 + 9
Peggles ........ 13 = 2 + (2 - 1) + 1 + 9
seaborgium ..... 13 = 3 + (1 - 1) + 1 + 9
WRV ............ 13 = 1 + (9 + 0) + 2 + 1
ayeembored ..... 15 = 2 + (2 - 1) + 3 + 9
mitchparov ..... 15 = 4 + (9 + 0) + 1 + 1
fowlerism ...... 16 = 9 + (2 - 1) + 3 + 3
Turd Ferguson .. 16 = 9 + (4 - 1) + 3 + 1
Rackme32 ....... 18 = 4 + (9 + 0) + 1 + 4
Woof ........... 20 = 9 + (1 - 1) + 2 + 9
debramc ........ 24 = 9 + (9 + 0) + 2 + 4
oddsox ......... 29 = 3 + (9 + 0) + 8 + 9
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Volante wrote:
Incorrect

Brazil (4 nominations) - goforthetie
Black Orpheus... shot in Brazil, in Portuguese, but credited to France. I hate AMPAS. :cry:

(Not even nominating City of God was also criminal, but that wasn't why I whiffed on this question.)
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Volante wrote:Rashomon (Not a country) - seaborgium
Reading comprehension!
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Volante wrote:Rashomon (Not a country)
I remember it being a country. Perhaps you remember it differently.
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fowlerism wrote:
Volante wrote:Rashomon (Not a country)
I remember it being a country. Perhaps you remember it differently.
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Volante wrote:
Canada (The Barbarian Invasions) (1)

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Heh! I'll take it, after two sheeps (Christy Brown? really? and I figured Streep's dingo movie might sheep, but didn't care) and a neg (I'd just assumed Redford was nominated for Out Of Africa).
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fowlerism wrote:
Volante wrote:Rashomon (Not a country)
I remember it being a country. Perhaps you remember it differently.
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