Thursday, December 1, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

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FJ was an insta-get. Thinking of Dresden China .. boy that before and after category stunk.
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I got the Ferry Cross the Mersey clue in the almost before and after category.
Also got the Savannah LT but only after first hearing that Atlanta was wrong.
Good get on the St. Augustine DD by Asim.

I knew they weren't asking for precious metal in the FJ but I still couldn't come up with anything.
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Asim's story was about Germany. Any advantage on FJ?

I have faintest of recollection about Dresden and porcelain.. No chance on FJ. I basically went Europe+ white = plaster of Paris. Don't mind the Paris part.

Also lost on the FJ category itself. What does it entail?
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I had just "china" for FJ. Judges?
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LT: Savannah, forgery, Bolivia, NAACP (DD), pad (Thai/tie)breaker, Kentucky Wild(cats/Katz)enjammer Kids

I too was stuck on metals on FJ! My best guess was pewter.

I strongly disagree with the apparently popular sentiment here. I thought Almost Before & After was great. I was a step too late on Presidential (Suite/Sweet) Child O' Mine, though, because I don't generally think of that song as a ballad. I was trying to figure out something to go with "November Rain" or "Don't Cry," although I knew the latter was not a #1.

It felt good to pick up LT on two different triple-neg clues in the same game. OTOH, I was humbled by not being able to pull either of Galatea or Caliban.

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Should the new champ have been negged for "Six Day War"?
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floridagator wrote:Should the new champ have been negged for "Six Day War"?
Why should he have been negged? That's what it's called.
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Porcelain was in and out of my head in a flash. I'd never heard it called "white gold". I settled on a white metal which was quite rare in metallic form at that time - aluminum.
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I thought china right away, but "white gold" seemed a little grand for dishes (and I kind of thought china was invented in China). I figured I was missing something, but the word porcelain just did not come... :roll:
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That was one of the worst games I've seen.

Asim is very lucky that his DD wagering didn't end with him being locked out by Justin, which he was a mere $601 away from doing. It still cost him $2400 in winnings, though.

There were also a lot of negs that felt like wild, random guesses. Others have pointed out the attempts on "a country north of Bolivia". Another was the bizarre attempts on the "forgery" clue. Or "Who is Proteus" for a monstrous character in The Tempest.

Additionally, the "Almost Before and After" was a dreadful category and as inscrutable for me as it was for the contestants.

On a positive personal note, I went 5/5 in the "Rock" category, including the $2,000 LT. Okay, nothing impressive by most peoples' standards here, but considering I absolutely suck at music trivia, it made me happy.

Not sure if I would have gotten FJ, as my mother said it instantly. Let's say no, to be on the safe side.
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I think porcelain was mentioned in Slaughterhouse 5 or else I read it elsewhere but I did get it. I agree with Matt above that Sweet Child O' Mine is not really a ballad. I was stuck on November Rain. I was playing sporcle on my phone and didn't realize the one player was so far in the red. Dreary game.
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dinghammer wrote:
Vowela wrote:I said Supergirl for the Luthor Corp clue (love the show!). That may not have been the answer they were looking for, but I can't remember anything in the clue that wouldn't have led to a reversal, if not counting it as correct outright.
I thought it was LexCorp (now L Corp) on Supergirl.

I can't remember the $2000 Almost Before & After clue, but that was the only one I got. I also got Mistress Quickly.

Porcelain was the only thing I could think of for FJ, so I'm glad it was right. Moby's song of that name wasn't quite as educational as Monty Python's "Oliver Cromwell" or TMBG's "James K Polk."
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It was the only one I got too. I didn't hate the concept, but they sure picked some stinkers of clues for em.

First combo that came to mind... Inconceivable! Vizzini portrayer wins Best Supporting Actor for The Untouchables
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Volante wrote: It was the only one I got too. I didn't hate the concept, but they sure picked some stinkers of clues for em.

First combo that came to mind... Inconceivable! Vizzini portrayer wins Best Supporting Actor for The Untouchables
The problem with that category is that you essentially have to solve not one, but two different trivia questions while also figuring out a way to tie them together phonetically.

At least with regular "Before and After" you don't have to figure out the verbal link.

I agree your clue was better than most the writers came up with in that category, but simply asking for the name of the actor who played Vizzini in the movie would be a TS on many (most?) Jeopardy shows, from what I've seen.
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Vowela wrote:I said Supergirl for the Luthor Corp clue (love the show!). That may not have been the answer they were looking for, but I can't remember anything in the clue that wouldn't have led to a reversal, if not counting it as correct outright.
I remember the word Super was in the clue, so that led me to Smallville.

As horrible as the before and after category was, what was worse was Asim continually going back to it when it was obvious nobody wanted any part of it.
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In before TPH to say that him calling "Atlanta" a negbait for "Georgia's First City" is my precall.
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I'm usually decent at Before and After, but this was just weird. Maybe just too much pop culture for me. My reaction to the first one was "is it COAL Porter?" (I'd never seen an "Almost Before and After" on the show before, and didn't know what the "almost" referred to.)
IronNeck wrote:Or "Who is Proteus" for a monstrous character in The Tempest.
I thought he said Prospero -- which would be at least as bad.
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flutist319 wrote:
IronNeck wrote:Or "Who is Proteus" for a monstrous character in The Tempest.
I thought he said Prospero -- which would be at least as bad.
Yep, you're correct. Still, if one's only knowledge of a Shakespeare play is the name of a character and nothing else, randomly guessing that is a poor strategy. (Unless it's late and one needs the dollar amount to avoid a crush/lock, etc. standard disclaimers)
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flutist319 wrote:
IronNeck wrote:Or "Who is Proteus" for a monstrous character in The Tempest.
I thought he said Prospero -- which would be at least as bad.
Do you think so? Prospero is at least a character in the play in question, just not the correct one. Anyway, my recollection is the same as yours. He said Prospero, not Proteus.
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Alex must not be a big G n' R fan -- the song is not called "Sweet Child OF Mine."
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MarkBarrett wrote:Chalk another one up for someone from San Francisco winning. I expect coverage in all the local newspapers as well as the evening news. :lol:
I was being sarcastic and then today I saw this in a local paper:

Anuj Patel, a scientist from San Francisco, is slated to appear on TV's "Jeopardy!" on Dec. 6.
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