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Bamaman wrote:Farragut and Mobile Bay come up quite a bit on the show.
Heck, TPH should just watch Gone With The Wind - Rhett Butler running the Northern blockade is referenced several times.
The Alabama was a blockade runner, maybe he was on it.
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TenPoundHammer wrote:
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TenPoundHammer wrote: Why is Venus hotter than Mercury? That doesn't make any sense.
Tyson explained it in the answer.
I need to see the words to that clue again.
Greenhouse effect. Yes, the same one on Earth.
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TPH wrote:How about a TOM or something in this clue, huh?!
I'm assuming you're referring to FJ. The TOM were the years given. The League of Nations was formed after WWI and started to crumble at the outset of WWII.
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It would seem logical that Mercury would be hotter. That is why he gave a detailed explanation of why it isn't.
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This Is Kirk! wrote:
TPH wrote:How about a TOM or something in this clue, huh?!
I'm assuming you're referring to FJ. The TOM were the years given. The League of Nations was formed after WWI and started to crumble at the outset of WWII.
Again, I tuned out the years as irrelevant noise, and thought they were going for a "these names kinda sorta almost vaguely sound like they belong to a certain country" like they so often do.
Bamaman wrote:It would seem logical that Mercury would be hotter. That is why he gave a detailed explanation of why it isn't.
Still, "Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah hottest in our solar system", why would you NOT knee-jerk Mercury?
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TenPoundHammer wrote:
Bamaman wrote:It would seem logical that Mercury would be hotter. That is why he gave a detailed explanation of why it isn't.
Still, "Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah hottest in our solar system", why would you NOT knee-jerk Mercury?
1. Mercury isn't in the habitable zone.
2. Mercury doesn't have an atmosphere.
3. You don't try to make excuses for not knowing the astronomy basics.
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Volante wrote:
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Bamaman wrote:It would seem logical that Mercury would be hotter. That is why he gave a detailed explanation of why it isn't.
Still, "Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah hottest in our solar system", why would you NOT knee-jerk Mercury?
1. Mercury isn't in the habitable zone.
2. Mercury doesn't have an atmosphere.
3. You don't try to make excuses for not knowing the astronomy basics.
Because 1. and 2. are sooooooo widely known, right?!
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TenPoundHammer wrote:
Volante wrote:
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Bamaman wrote:It would seem logical that Mercury would be hotter. That is why he gave a detailed explanation of why it isn't.
Still, "Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah hottest in our solar system", why would you NOT knee-jerk Mercury?
1. Mercury isn't in the habitable zone.
2. Mercury doesn't have an atmosphere.
3. You don't try to make excuses for not knowing the astronomy basics.
Because 1. and 2. are sooooooo widely known, right?!
What, no sarcastic reply to 3. as well?
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TenPoundHammer wrote:Because 1. and 2. are sooooooo widely known, right?!
Yes, they are.
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There is no need to have any knowledge of astronomy other than the names of the planets and their order from the sun. You seem to know that.

You said it made sense that the closest planet would be the he hotest. I agree that is a logical conclusion. But that is why Tyson explained why Venus is hotter. If Mercury were the hotest it wouldn't be an interesting fact to know that might come up in a trivia game. In other words, if it was Mercury, they probably wouldn't ask it or at least not give such a detailed explanation.

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TenPoundHammer wrote:
Volante wrote:
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Bamaman wrote:It would seem logical that Mercury would be hotter. That is why he gave a detailed explanation of why it isn't.
Still, "Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah hottest in our solar system", why would you NOT knee-jerk Mercury?
1. Mercury isn't in the habitable zone.
2. Mercury doesn't have an atmosphere.
3. You don't try to make excuses for not knowing the astronomy basics.
Because 1. and 2. are sooooooo widely known, right?!
Frankly, TPH, my 12 year old could tell you that, as could either of my college aged sons. But we've all got an aptitude for science, perhaps that is what is lacking in your case?
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Bamaman wrote:There is no need to have any knowledge of astronomy other than the names of the planets and their order from the sun. You seem to know that.

You said it made sense that the closest planet would be the he hotest. I agree that is a logical conclusion. But that is why Tyson explained why Venus is hotter. If Mercury were the hotest it wouldn't be an interesting fact to know that might come up in a trivia game. In other words, if it was Mercury, they probably wouldn't ask it or at least not give such a detailed explanation.
This. Also, "Venus is the hottest planet in our solar system despite being farther from the sun than Mercury" is about as basic a trivia factoid as there is. Just trust us, it is. Commit it to memory. It will come up again.
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BigDaddyMatty wrote:
Bamaman wrote:There is no need to have any knowledge of astronomy other than the names of the planets and their order from the sun. You seem to know that.

You said it made sense that the closest planet would be the he hotest. I agree that is a logical conclusion. But that is why Tyson explained why Venus is hotter. If Mercury were the hotest it wouldn't be an interesting fact to know that might come up in a trivia game. In other words, if it was Mercury, they probably wouldn't ask it or at least not give such a detailed explanation.
This. Also, "Venus is the hottest planet in our solar system despite being farther from the sun than Mercury" is about as basic a trivia factoid as there is. Just trust us, it is. Commit it to memory. It will come up again.
But if you don't know all that already, then it's easy to just go "Oh, hottest planet, must be Mercury" in spite of the tl;dr explanation.
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If you aren't even going to listen to the clue then why are you even here?
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Bamaman wrote:If you aren't even going to listen to the clue then why are you even here?
If you all know he's not going to listen to the clue, then why are the rest of you even here? ;)

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So what I'm getting is "Sometimes you have to pay attention to all the words in a clue, sometimes you can just glom onto a random word or two."
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TenPoundHammer wrote:So what I'm getting is "Sometimes you have to pay attention to all the words in a clue, sometimes you can just glom onto a random word or two."
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econgator wrote:
Bamaman wrote:If you aren't even going to listen to the clue then why are you even here?
If you all know he's not going to listen to the clue, then why are the rest of you even here? ;)
I see what you did there....
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TenPoundHammer wrote: I also saw "blah blah blah Israelites blah blah Jericho" but then also saw "Moses", which was enough to convince me that no way in a billion years could it possibly be Joshua.
This may be your most remarkable statement yet. I don't remember the exact wording of this clue, and it isn't in the archive yet, but the mention of Moses was supposed to help guide you to Joshua. If the clue had just been "He led to the Israelites into the Promised Land," Moses would have been what we call a negbait - a response that seems highly plausible, sometimes even apparently obvious, but is wrong. (Although if Jericho was mentioned, then that is what we call Pavlov for Joshua - a word in a clue that almost always leads to a particular response. The name comes from the famous Pavlov's dog experiment.) But if you know Moses is ruled out, then that should guide you to Joshua.
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Stanislaus Jacob wrote:
TenPoundHammer wrote: I also saw "blah blah blah Israelites blah blah Jericho" but then also saw "Moses", which was enough to convince me that no way in a billion years could it possibly be Joshua.
This may be your most remarkable statement yet. I don't remember the exact wording of this clue, and it isn't in the archive yet, but the mention of Moses was supposed to help guide you to Joshua. If the clue had just been "He led to the Israelites into the Promised Land," Moses would have been what we call a negbait - a response that seems highly plausible, sometimes even apparently obvious, but is wrong. (Although if Jericho was mentioned, then that is what we call Pavlov for Joshua - a word in a clue that almost always leads to a particular response. The name comes from the famous Pavlov's dog experiment.) But if you know Moses is ruled out, then that should guide you to Joshua.
I didn't make the connection of Joshua being Moses' successor. I thought their stories were completely unrelated. So that's why "Moses" threw me completely off the trail.
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