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Thursday, November 1, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:30 am

Game Recap for Show #6469, 2012-11-01

Keith Whitener game 7.

CONTESTANTS
Elizabeth Pfeifer, an executive assistant from Oakton, Virginia
John Mahone, an SAT teacher from Brooklyn, New York
Keith Whitener, a research chemist originally from Charlotte, North Carolina (whose 6-day cash winnings total $118,398)

OPENING REMARKS
Alex: Thank you, Johnny. Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to our show. At the end of yesterday’s program, one of our champion Keith’s opponents, one of the defeated challengers said, ‘Congratulations. I hope you go on to win 75 shows.’ That would replace Ken Jennings as the all-time winner on Jeopardy! But in order to accomplish that, Keith would have to defeat about 130 more contestants. And first he has to get rid of Elizabeth and John today. That may be tougher than other people think. Let’s find out. Good luck, players. Here comes the Jeopardy! Round. And here are the categories…

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
THE THREE Rs (5/5) (Alex: There will be three R's in each correct response.)
POLYNESIA (4/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
I WORKED FOR ROGER CORMAN (4/5)
CONTESTS (4/5)
THE OLD GRAY MAYOR (5/5)
THE CIA (1/2)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Keith: 12 R (including 1 DD), 2 W
John: 9 R, 0 W
Elizabeth: 3 R, 1 W

Clues revealed: 27
Triple Stumpers: 4
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $3,000



JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Keith found the Daily Double on the 12th clue. Keith had $2,200, John had $1,800, and Elizabeth had nothing in the bank. Keith made it a True Daily Double, wagering $2,200.

POLYNESIA $1000: The easternmost outpost of Polynesia, it lies about 2,200 miles off the coast of Chile
(Alex: [*], also known as Rapa Nui.)

SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
Keith: $5,000
John: $2,200
Elizabeth: $0

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Alex: One of the things we discover about our contestants on Jeopardy! quite often is that they are collectors. Elizabeth Pfeifer from Oakton, Virginia collects…

Elizabeth: Wonder Woman paraphernalia.

Alex: Oh boy.

Elizabeth: Yeah.

Alex: Like what?

Elizabeth: Like lunch boxes, uh, jewelry, a clock, a trash can, lots of different clothing items.

Alex: I was just about to ask you.

Elizabeth: Yes!

Alex: Do they have Wonder Woman clothing that would fit you, and have you ever worn it?

Elizabeth: Oh sure, I have several T-shirts, I have uh, a big buckle with a big WW on it.

Alex: I want the full costume, with the bracelets.

Elizabeth: Oh, Halloween! We just missed it.

Alex: Yeah. Okay. I bet you have a lot of fun with it.




Alex: John, good news for you. We should not have expected you to come up with the first name of Mayor Daley of Chicago. They’re both named Richard. Chuck Daly, by the way, as you probably know was the basketball coach for the Detroit Pistons.

John: Yeah.

Alex: We’re gonna give you back, uh, a correct response, so you’re gonna pick up some money. You’re going to twenty-two hundred. Now, tell me about what you collect.

John: Um, I actually have a Transformer, that’s been in my pocket every day for the past, 'bout nine years.

Alex: Whip it out.

John: It’s right here. [Shows Alex the box]

[Laughter]

John: I tried to make it TV ready, but they wouldn’t let it in make-up.

[Laughter]

Alex: That’s it?

John: It’s been, it’s been in my pocket. It’s a little beat up because…

Alex: No, the box is beat up.

John: Ah, well here’s…here’s the actual character. [Removes it from the box and shows it to Alex] It's right here. A little linty.

Alex: Right.

John: It transforms.

Alex: Keep that in your pocket.

John: [Laughs]

Alex: Okay. Fun going through uh, security at the airport.

John: Yeah.




Alex: All right, let’s, uh, talk to Keith Whitener, our champion. He wants, he’s won over a hundred thousand dollars, and would like to start his own business. What kind of business are we talking about?

Keith: Probably, uh, well, I’m a chemist, so probably a chemical company, but uh, more along the lines of like a nanotech company.

Alex: Try and come up with a company that helps society. You have command of the board. You have five thousand dollars, and you pick our next clue.

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
POLYNESIA $800: In January 1790 the population of Pitcairn Island went from 0 to 28:
19 Tahitians & 9 British sailors, led by him
(Keith: Who is Caine?)
...
(Alex: Who is [*], Mutiny on the Bounty.)

CONTESTS $200: The winning recipe for this contest in 2012 was Pumpkin Ravioli with Salted Caramel Whipped Cream
(Elizabeth: What is the Betty Crocker cook-off?)

I WORKED FOR ROGER CORMAN $1000: 1960's "The Last Woman On Earth" was the first feature gig for this "Chinatown" screenwriter
(Keith: Who is Roman Polanski?)

THE CIA $1000: Covert activities of the Directorate of Operations included ousting Premier Mosaddeq in 1953, restoring this man to power
(And this man was [*].)

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
Keith: $6,400
John: $5,000
Elizabeth: $2,000

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DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
LADY CEREBELLUM (5/5)
NAMES IN THESE TUNES (2/4)
THEY INSPIRED THE CHARACTER (5/5)
WILL POWER (3/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
EDUCATION (5/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
THE "CIA" (4/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Keith: 10 R (including 2 DDs), 0 W
Elizabeth: 8 R (including 1 rebound), 0 W
John: 6 R, 1 W

Clues revealed: 29
Triple Stumpers: 5
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $8,400



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Keith snagged the next Daily Double on the 17th clue. Keith had $13,600, John had $9,800, and Elizabeth was at $5,600. Keith wagered $5,000.

WILL POWER $1600: He was first in his law class at Stanford

SECOND DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
It was Keith who snatched up the last Daily Double of the game on the 21st clue. Keith had $20,200, John had $11,000, and Elizabeth was at $5,600. Keith wagered $5,000.

EDUCATION $2000: In the 1950s Robert Havighurst popularized the phrase this "moment", meaning an opportunity to learn something

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
THE "CIA" $2000: a class of ancient Roman nobles
(Alex: And that would be the [*] class.)

WILL POWER $800: He left Mississippi for Hollywood several times to work on screenplays including "The Big Sleep"
(Alex: Famous Mississippian, [*], William [*])

WILL POWER $2000: In 1878 he renamed his Christian mission The Salvation Army
(Alex: And the Will in this case was [*].)

NAMES IN THESE TUNES $2000: The Left Banke:
"Walk Away ____"

NAMES IN THESE TUNES $1600: A parody hit:
"____ In Disguise (With Glasses)"

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
Keith: $25,200 (lock game)
John: $10,600
Elizabeth: $10,000

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
THE 50 STATES

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
Lock for first place; three-quarters for second place.
Keith: Wager between $0 (venusian) and $3,999 (martian), and enjoy your victory.
John: Wager $9,401 to cover Elizabeth.
Elizabeth: Risk between $601 and $8,800, covering John's $0 bet.

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
Gambling as a commercial enterprise in some form is legal in all states except Hawaii & this state

FINAL SCORES
Elizabeth: $10,000 + $0 = $10,000 (What is Utah?) (3rd place: $1,000)
John: $10,600 + $10,500 = $21,100 (What is Utah?) (2nd place: $2,000)
Keith: $25,200 + $3,999 = $29,199 (What is Utah?) (7-day champion: $147,597)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $11,400

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
Keith: $17,600, 22 R (including 3 DDs), 2 W
John: $10,600, 15 R, 1 W
Elizabeth: $10,000, 11 R, 1 W
Combined Coryat: $38,200

BATTING AVERAGES
Keith: 23/61 = .377
John: 16/58 = .276
Elizabeth: 12/58 = .207
Team: 51/63 = .810

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
THE OLD GRAY MAYOR $400: "The last of the big-city bosses", he was 74 when he passed away as Chicago's mayor
(John: Who is Daley?)
(Alex: Be more specific.)
(John: Who is...Chuck Daley?)
[Initially ruled incorrect; reversed after the first break]

CONTESTS $800: The Washington Post sponsors a spring contest of dioramas that feature this brand of marshmallow candies
(Alex: [*] is right, with less than a minute to go.)

THE CIA $800: In June 2011 the Senate unanimously confirmed this ex-commander of U.S. forces in Iraq as CIA director
[end-of-round signal sounds.]

NAMES IN THESE TUNES $1200: The Dixie Chicks said hello to The Top 20:
"Goodbye ____"
(Alex: Minute to go.)

EDUCATION $1200: NYC is fighting this "ism" with automated calls from celebrities telling kids to wake up & get to school
(John: What is tardyism?)

THEY INSPIRED THE CHARACTER $400: J. M. Barrie had young friend Michael Llewelyn Davies in mind when he created this "boy who wouldn't grow up"
[end-of-round signal sounds.]

CORRECT RESPONSES
Easter Island
Fletcher Christian
The Pillsbury Bake-Off
Robert Towne
the Shah of Iran
William Rehnquist
a teachable moment
patrician
(William) Faulkner
William Booth
Renée
Judy
Utah
(Richard) Daley
peeps
Petraeus
Earl
absenteeism
Peter Pan

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Re: Thursday, November 1, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by jeff6286 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:30 pm

The 50 States
Gambling as a commercial enterprise in some form is legal in all states except Hawaii & this state.
SpoilerShow
What is Utah?

Keith Whitener: $25,200+$3,999=$29,199...now a 7-day champion with $147,597
John Mahone: $10,600+$10,500=$21,100
Elizabeth Pfeifer: $10,000+$0=$10,000
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Post by dhkendall » Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:16 pm

I like it when I can not only come up with FJ! via the "expected" method (as Alex mentioned, the Mormon prohibition on gambling) but also cofirm via other means (namely, the many casinos I've heard about on the Idaho and Nevada state lines set up for gambling-craving Utahans.) Now, can somoene explain tome the ban on gambling in Hawaii? (They must have it worse, as there's no bordering states to go to if they want to gamble)

Judges: is "truantism" acceptable for "absenteeism"?
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Post by lisa0012 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:37 pm

dhkendall wrote:I like it when I can not only come up with FJ! via the "expected" method (as Alex mentioned, the Mormon prohibition on gambling) but also cofirm via other means (namely, the many casinos I've heard about on the Idaho and Nevada state lines set up for gambling-craving Utahans.) Now, can somoene explain tome the ban on gambling in Hawaii? (They must have it worse, as there's no bordering states to go to if they want to gamble)

Judges: is "truantism" acceptable for "absenteeism"?
I am under the assumption that the campaign they were referring to has the goal of getting kids to go to school, not just to show up on time.
Edit: I was thinking of the challenger's answer, not yours. I have never seen the word truantism before, and I can barely find any references to it in online dictionaries. Absenteeism is the common education term for missing school for any reason.

My quick Google blames Hawaii's gambling ban on the influence of the missionaries that lived on the islands. It's apparently a big issue because of other cultural influences that value gambling (particularly the Chinese), and a lot of crime is blamed on issues related to illegal gambling. Also, so many Hawaiians travel to Nevada to get their gambling fix that they refer to the state as the "ninth Hawaiian island".

Great game, instaget FJ!, go superchamp go!

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Post by econgator » Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:29 pm

dhkendall wrote:Judges: is "truantism" acceptable for "absenteeism"?
"Truancy" is the term I am most familiar with, so I'd guess no.

Like you, I made the "expected" connection on FJ.

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Post by heelsrule1988 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:29 pm

Keith fought off the Curse of Ken! That's how you know he's for real. 8-)

Kind of funny, then, that the correct response to FJ was Utah. :P

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Post by Roadgeek Adam » Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:33 pm

econgator wrote:
dhkendall wrote:Judges: is "truantism" acceptable for "absenteeism"?
"Truancy" is the term I am most familiar with, so I'd guess no.

Like you, I made the "expected" connection on FJ.
I just watched the show and I went truantism myself. I also am getting flagged by spell check as that not being a word.

How about this, Dr. J and Keith are split by only $27 with the same amount of wins. (Keith's $147,597 to Dr. J's $147,570)
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Post by CyrusChan » Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:35 pm

Yeah, Truancy is the term and Absenteeism is the answer as I'm from NYC and have heard heaps of that about "celebs, Artists".

On fire, as I cruised through the first half.

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Post by CyrusChan » Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:36 pm

Roadgeek Adam wrote:
econgator wrote:
dhkendall wrote:Judges: is "truantism" acceptable for "absenteeism"?
"Truancy" is the term I am most familiar with, so I'd guess no.

Like you, I made the "expected" connection on FJ.
I just watch the show and I went truantism myself. I also am getting flagged by spell check as that not being a word.

How about this, Dr. J and Keith are split by only $27 with the same amount of wins. (Keith's $147,597 to Dr. J's $147,570)
*number, you mean :D

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Post by dhkendall » Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:39 pm

Roadgeek Adam wrote:
econgator wrote:
dhkendall wrote:Judges: is "truantism" acceptable for "absenteeism"?
"Truancy" is the term I am most familiar with, so I'd guess no.

Like you, I made the "expected" connection on FJ.
I just watch the show and I went truantism myself. I also am getting flagged by spell check as that not being a word.
I didn't think it was a word (my spellchecker is flagging it too), but it's a last-ditch effort to try to see if there's a possibility it could be accepted.
Roadgeek Adam wrote:How about this, Dr. J and Keith are split by only $27 with the same amount of wins. (Keith's $147,597 to Dr. J's $147,570)
I was thinking recently who would win in a TOC matchup against those two, it's a certainty they're both headed there, and a near certainty they'll meet eventually. They are, IMHO, the two front runners to win it all (I'm giving Stefanie the edge because a) she's a boardie, b) has a great personality (nothing against Keith's, but Stephanie's just beats his), and c) has much better stories (again, nothing against (most of) Keith's, but has he ever rode in a dryer? No? I didn't think so! QED.)
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Post by Roadgeek Adam » Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:43 pm

dhkendall wrote: I was thinking recently who would win in a TOC matchup against those two, it's a certainty they're both headed there, and a near certainty they'll meet eventually. They are, IMHO, the two front runners to win it all (I'm giving Stefanie the edge because a) she's a boardie, b) has a great personality (nothing against Keith's, but Stephanie's just beats his), and c) has much better stories (again, nothing against (most of) Keith's, but has he ever rode in a dryer? No? I didn't think so! QED.)
Got a third podium, any thoughts on who might get that?

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Post by dhkendall » Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:51 pm

Roadgeek Adam wrote:
dhkendall wrote: I was thinking recently who would win in a TOC matchup against those two, it's a certainty they're both headed there, and a near certainty they'll meet eventually. They are, IMHO, the two front runners to win it all (I'm giving Stefanie the edge because a) she's a boardie, b) has a great personality (nothing against Keith's, but Stephanie's just beats his), and c) has much better stories (again, nothing against (most of) Keith's, but has he ever rode in a dryer? No? I didn't think so! QED.)
Got a third podium, any thoughts on who might get that?

(I am biased by hometown locations of Jason)
No, I can't remember all the superchamps that have appeared since the last TOC. When the inevitable rankings post comes out, it may jog my memory and I may opine as to who gets the third one, but I usually don't play the rating game, due to my not wanting to be laughed out of the room and not being able to back up my laughable assertions.
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Post by Roadgeek Adam » Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:57 pm

dhkendall wrote:
Roadgeek Adam wrote:
dhkendall wrote: I was thinking recently who would win in a TOC matchup against those two, it's a certainty they're both headed there, and a near certainty they'll meet eventually. They are, IMHO, the two front runners to win it all (I'm giving Stefanie the edge because a) she's a boardie, b) has a great personality (nothing against Keith's, but Stephanie's just beats his), and c) has much better stories (again, nothing against (most of) Keith's, but has he ever rode in a dryer? No? I didn't think so! QED.)
Got a third podium, any thoughts on who might get that?

(I am biased by hometown locations of Jason)
No, I can't remember all the superchamps that have appeared since the last TOC. When the inevitable rankings post comes out, it may jog my memory and I may opine as to who gets the third one, but I usually don't play the rating game, due to my not wanting to be laughed out of the room and not being able to back up my laughable assertions.
Heh I understand. Jason Keller, Joel Pool and Dave Leach just for the record.
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Post by NoName84 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:59 pm

I said "asocial" for "antisocial." Acceptable?

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Post by StevenH » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:03 pm

I got FJ from guessing the most conservative state. I wasn't confident and was afraid that I might have been missing some obvious TOM. I hadn't heard about gambling and Utah in the news.

Keith has been impressive. Right now I'd say that it's a toss up between Keith, Jason Keller, and Dave Leach being the favorite for the next ToC.

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Post by cinemaniax7 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:05 pm

This seemed a remarkably easy board tonight. I wish I'd been keeping track of my Coryat.

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Post by teapot37 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:10 pm

I believe the Transformer in John's pocket was a "Tiny Tins" version of W.A.R.S. (from the "Robots in Disguise" subline).

Utah was really the only thing that made sense in FJ.

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:41 pm

Not a good board for me. Gray Mayor and Will were both 0/5, ad I only got one each in Roger Corman, Inspired the Character, Education, and Cerebellum.

I had absolutely no guess for FJ! Hopped all around the map at random but never got to Utah. I honestly had no idea how to interpret this clue. It seemed a total "you know it or you don't" clue until the reveal.
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Post by Budphrey » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:52 pm

That's Richard J. Daley to you. He's the father; Richard M. Daley is the son. Rich M. was younger when he left office, but if I recall correctly he actually racked up a few more days as mayor than Daley pere.

I will have to say, though, that that was one of the more badly researched clues they've had in recent years. Good thing they caught it before the game progressed too far.
NoName84 wrote:I said "asocial" for "antisocial." Acceptable?
I'd say "asocial" is a shade more acceptable, considering "antisocial" has technical meanings that go beyond "shy."

I precalled Jack Nicholson for the Roger Corman category and was way disappointed the original "Little Shop" didn't come up.

Growing up in Idaho one of the main things I remember is that you couldn't even bet on horse races in Utah.

Keith is rolling forward very strongly, very quietly. You have to watch those quiet types.
Poo-tee-weet? So it goes.

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