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Thursday, November 15, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:30 am

Game Recap for Show #6479, 2012-11-15

2012-B Teachers Tournament semifinal game 2.

CONTESTANTS
Kate Wilson, a high school AP English teacher from Montgomery, Alabama
Marcia Edmundson, a high school French teacher from Chesterfield, Virginia
Marion Penning, a high school science and history teacher from Baltimore, Maryland

OPENING REMARKS
Alex: Thank you, Johnny. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the second of our semifinal matches. The sciences are going to be represented in the final next Monday and Tuesday. Michael, the chemistry teacher, has already won his game, and, to show you how bright I am, there will be one woman in the final, as well. It will be Marion, Marcia, and Kate--which of the three will win today? Good luck, ladies. Here we go to the Jeopardy! Round. And now the categories. First off...

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
EDUCATION ABBREVIATION (4/5)
QUICK HISTORY (4/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
APPROXIMATE WEIGHTS & MEASURES (4/5)
CROSSWORD CLUES "A" (5/5) (Alex: I'll give you the clue. Each correct response begins with the letter "A".)
THE JUNIOR VARSITY (4/5)
2 PEOPLE, SAME POSITION (3/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Marion: 10 R (including 1 rebound and 1 DD), 1 W
Kate: 9 R, 1 W
Marcia: 5 R, 3 W

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 6
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $5,200



SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
Kate: $2,600
Marion: $1,400
Marcia: $1,200

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Alex: Kate Wilson is from Montgomery, Alabama. She's a high school AP English teacher who was once teaching class when something scary happened--minor, but scary. Tell us about it.

Kate: Uh, yeah, my second year, I was teaching my first class of the day, and my students all started gasping. And I looked up and saw on a freestanding closet at the front of my room a mouse that had fallen out of the ceiling.

Alex: And did that freak everybody out?

Kate: It did. And it fell off the cal--the cabinet, as well, and one of my students picked it up, took it safely outside to the kickball field. [Laughs]

Alex: Good for--well, I hope they didn't use it...

Kate: We used hand sanitizer after, of course.

[Laughter]

Alex: Okay. All right.




Alex: Now we come to Marcia Edmundson, who is a high school French teacher at Prince George High School in Virginia?

Marcia: Yes.

Alex: A former student of yours graduated and wound up teaching at...

Marcia: At the junior high that feeds into our high school. My--she was in my class for the first couple years that I taught, and she's now a college graduate and is teaching French leading into my program. So, we're very proud of her.

Alex: It's got to make you feel good to say...

Marcia: It is.

Alex: ..."Hey, that was one of my students."

Marcia: And--and look what she's been able to do.

Alex: Yeah. "So, I must be a good teacher."

Marcia: Hopefully, yes.

Alex: Great.




Alex: Marion Penning is a high school science and history teacher at Roland Park Country School in Maryland. That's a green school.

Marion: Yeah.

Alex: Which means what?

Marion: Um, we are, uh, committed to being good for the environment. We have a LEED-certified gym. We have a green roof. We have a solar roof.

Alex: What's a green roof?

Marion: It's got plants on it.

Alex: Oh.

[Marion laughs.]

Alex: Great. Way to go.

JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Marion found the Daily Double on the 17th clue. Marion had $2,000, Marcia had $1,200, and Kate was at $2,600. Marion made it a True Daily Double, wagering $2,000.

QUICK HISTORY $800: In German it was called "Heiliges Romisches Reich"

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
EDUCATION ABBREVIATION $1000: ESEA, short for this act, dates from the 60's & morphed into No Child Left Behind

2 PEOPLE, SAME POSITION $400: Hockey's Bobby Hull, basketball's Dennis Rodman
(Marcia: What is center?)
(Marion: What is defender?)

QUICK HISTORY $1000: Party formed to oppose "King Andrew" Jackson
(Alex: In American history that would be [*].)

THE JUNIOR VARSITY $1000: This conservative columnist put his ideas on the "Firing Line"

APPROXIMATE WEIGHTS & MEASURES $800: It's the "elastic" word for a period of imprisonment
(Alex: You're doing a [*].)

2 PEOPLE, SAME POSITION $1000: Baseball's Ozzie Guillen, Dunder Mifflin boss Andy Bernard on "The Office"
(Marcia: What is shortstop?)

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
Marion: $5,600
Kate: $4,200
Marcia: $2,000

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DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
KNOW YOUR BOUNDARIES (5/5)
LEADING INTO THE SONG TITLE (4/5)
ESSAYS (3/5, including 1 missed Daily Double)
GET "REAL"! (4/5)
SYSTEMS OF THE BODY (4/5)
SAMURAI: THE WARRIOR TRANSFORMED (5/5, including 1 correct Daily Double) (Alex: And finally, join me from the National Geographic Museum...)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Kate: 12 R (including 1 DD), 1 W
Marion: 8 R (including 1 rebound), 3 W (including 1 DD)
Marcia: 6 R, 1 W

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 4
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $6,400



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Marion snagged the next Daily Double on the 23rd clue. Marion had $11,600, Marcia had $6,400, and Kate was at $11,400. Marion wagered $2,000.

ESSAYS $1200: His essay "On the Decay of the Art of Lying" was "read at a meeting of the historical and antiquarian club of Hartford"
(Marion: Uh, I have no idea.)
(Alex: Oh, my favorite author, closely associated with Hartford, [*], [*]. He was being sarcastic. The Art of Lying.)

SECOND DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
It was Kate who snatched up the last Daily Double of the game on the 29th clue. Marion had $9,600, Marcia had $6,400, and Kate was at $15,800. Kate wagered $2,000.

SAMURAI: THE WARRIOR TRANSFORMED $1600: (Alex presents the clue from the National Geographic Museum.) Tsubas are sword guards, they protected the hand in battle; as you can see they were decorated with different symbols including this one: the flower long associated with Japan's Imperial House

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
GET "REAL"! $2000: Herr Bismarck's doctrine of practical diplomacy

LEADING INTO THE SONG TITLE $1200: Gotye: "Guess I didn't need that though, now you're just..."
(Marcia: What is someone I used to know?)
(Marion: What is somebody I used to know?)

SYSTEMS OF THE BODY $1600: Composed of 8 glands, this system maintains internal balance by releasing hormones
(Marion: Um...I can't remember.)

ESSAYS $1600: She's the Zora in Alice Walker's "Looking For Zora"

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
Kate: $17,800
Marion: $9,600
Marcia: $8,400

PREFINAL REMARKS
(After the Double Jeopardy! Round, Alex delivers a Footnote from the National Geographic Museum.) In 1905, the Japanese emperor sent this suit of armor as a gift to President Theodore Roosevelt in recognition of his help in ending the Russo-Japanese War. When the gift arrived, Teddy excused himself from a White House visitor, put the suit of armor on, and then did a one-man parade, marching up and down the halls of the White House.

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
MATH MEN

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
Crush for first place.
Kate: Wager $1,401 to cover Marion.
Marion: You have the hope of surpassing Kate if you come up with the correct response. Bet at least $8,201 to force Kate to wager to win while also protecting your position from being usurped by Marcia.
Marcia: Your only hope of a win is that you're the only one to give a correct response, so bet $8,398 or so, leaving a few bucks behind in case someone wagers it all.

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
In 1880 he wrote, "We draw two circles, and make them include or exclude or intersect one another"

FINAL SCORES
Marcia: $8,400 + $8,400 = $16,800 (Who is Venn?) (3rd place: $10,000)
Marion: $9,600 + $9,000 = $18,600 (Who is Venn) (2nd place: $10,000)
Kate: $17,800 + $1,401 = $19,201 (Who is Venn?) (Finalist)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $11,600

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
Kate: $17,400, 21 R (including 1 DD), 2 W
Marion: $10,400, 18 R (including 1 DD), 4 W (including 1 DD)
Marcia: $8,400, 11 R, 4 W
Combined Coryat: $36,200

BATTING AVERAGES
Kate: 22/59 = .373
Marion: 19/60 = .317
Marcia: 12/58 = .207
Team: 53/63 = .841

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
CROSSWORD CLUES "A" $200: Opposite of nay (3)
[Marcia pronounced [*] "ay" as in "day"]

CROSSWORD CLUES "A" $600: Bicentennial or jubilee (11)
(Marion: [*], What is [*]?)

QUICK HISTORY $200: The scene here took place during this year
(Alex: Yes, the raising of the flag on Mount Suribachi on Iwo Jima.)

2 PEOPLE, SAME POSITION $200: Basketball's Steve Nash, football's Larry Little
(Marcia: What is point guard?)
(Kate: What is center?)
...
(Alex: [*], not point guard. You don't have a point guard in football.)

QUICK HISTORY $600: This reformer is depicted here in 16th century Wittenberg

KNOW YOUR BOUNDARIES $400: At the north end of South America, this country borders Colombia, Guyana & Brazil
(Kate: What is Suriname?)

SYSTEMS OF THE BODY $400: (Jimmy of the Clue Crew shows us a diagram of the human body.) It's the term for this system that transports blood to and from all parts of the body

GET "REAL"! $1600: To redistribute
(Kate: What is realign?)
[Originally ruled incorrect; reversed before Daily Double at clue 23]

SAMURAI: THE WARRIOR TRANSFORMED $400: (Alex presents the clue from the National Geographic Museum.) This magnificent 16th century armor was a gift in 1905 from the Japanese Emperor Meiji to this American president, thanking him for mediating the treaty that ended the Russo-Japanese War

SAMURAI: THE WARRIOR TRANSFORMED $800: (Alex presents the clue from the National Geographic Museum.) Some scabbards were decorated with blossoms of this fruit tree; they fall at their moment of greatest beauty, and so to the samurai represent an ideal death

SAMURAI: THE WARRIOR TRANSFORMED $1200: (Alex presents the clue from the National Geographic Museum.) The armor here was featured at the 1893 Chicago World's Fair. The laquer-covered iron plates here are held together by woven strands of this lightweight but very strong fabric developed in China

SAMURAI: THE WARRIOR TRANSFORMED $2000: (Alex presents the clue from the National Geographic Museum.) A "daishō", literally "big" "little", was the matched pair of swords that symbolized a samurai's rank; it was composed of the wakizashi and the longer sword called this

CORRECT RESPONSES
the Holy Roman Empire
Elementary & Secondary Education Act
forward
the Whig Party
William F. Buckley, Jr.
stretch
manager
Mark Twain
the chrysanthemum
Realpolitik
"Somebody That I Used To Know"
the endocrine system
Zora Neale Hurston
(John) Venn
Aye
anniversary
1945
guard
Martin Luther
Venezuela
the circulatory system
reallocate
Teddy Roosevelt
cherry blossoms
silk
katana

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Re: Thursday, November 15, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by lisa0012 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:46 pm

Poll question: Did anyone who got FJ! right actually know his first name? Or anything else he accomplished?

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Post by jeff6286 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:51 pm

Math Men
In 1880 he wrote, "We draw two circles, and make them include or exclude or intersect one another."

Spoiler
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Who is John Venn?

Kate Wilson: $17,800+$1,401=$19,201...Automatic Finalist
Marion Penning: $9,600+$9,000=$18,600
Marcia Edmundson: $8,400+$8,400=$16,800
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Post by econgator » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:29 pm

lisa0012 wrote:Poll question: Did anyone who got FJ! right actually know his first name? Or anything else he accomplished?
No and no.

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Post by ACW » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:51 pm

Realign for reallocate? :|

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Post by ACW » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:55 pm

lisa0012 wrote:Poll question: Did anyone who got FJ! right actually know his first name? Or anything else he accomplished?
Nope. Still an instaget.

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Post by econgator » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:57 pm

ACW wrote:Realign for reallocate? :|
Sure, why not? It fits the clue just fine.

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Post by Dr. J » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:08 pm

ACW wrote:
lisa0012 wrote:Poll question: Did anyone who got FJ! right actually know his first name? Or anything else he accomplished?
Nope. Still an instaget.
Same here. And I was just relating my embarrassing Venn diagram story to a friend the other day -- be careful what you draw on the board in front of undergrads! :lol:

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:09 pm

I've never heard of jubilee and anniversary being synonymous before. Between that, the bizarre clue for "stretch", and blanking on "immune", I had three 4/5s today. However, I ran the song lyrics category. Boundary was an 0/5.

I swear, they add new sports positions every week. If there are only 9 men on a baseball team, why are there like, 40 positions?

FJ! was an instaget.
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Post by Paucle » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:42 pm

So Kate gets the last DD with thee scores:
Kate: 15800
Marion: 9,600
Marcia: 6400
She seemed to like the category-- I wonder if it might've been worth it to "go for the win" there and wager enough to cover Marion's max possible Final score which at that point would be 19,200. A wager of, say, 3500 gives her a guaranteed victory, depending on what happens on the final clue. And if she misses, she's still ahead. Her 2,000 didn't see to do anything.

Good coryat for me-- 14400/29200 43600 overall.

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Post by Paucle » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:49 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:However, I ran the song lyrics category. Boundary was an 0/5.
Ran the lyrics except the newish song. The one they all misquoted. Hey, at least they knew some of the words. I would've been speechless.
Boundary I got final three, first two were a little tougher for me. I think the category seemed a bit flipped.

I was just talking about a Venn diagram the other day. While watching Guadalcanal Diary , they showed a GI using binoculars to scope out ships offshore, and the P.O.V. was a round circle. Took me a second to realize it. "Hey!" I said to my brother. "Go back!" so he did and I said, "That doesn't look like a Venn diagram!" He asked if my meds needed tweaking.
Seriously, why are almost all binocular PsOV in movies defective? Can anyone think of any other films that get it right?

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Post by debramc » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:57 pm

lisa0012 wrote:Poll question: Did anyone who got FJ! right actually know his first name? Or anything else he accomplished?
Nope. And I have a math degree. But definitely instaget.

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Post by BADuBois » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:02 pm

Dr. J wrote: Same here. And I was just relating my embarrassing Venn diagram story to a friend the other day -- be careful what you draw on the board in front of undergrads! :lol:
Oh, puh-leeze, Dr. J., no teasing! :lol: Do tell, do tell!

Had fun with the Geography category, and again, not to pick on the teachers, it seemed some relatively easy clues went unanswered.

Then again, FJ for me was an Insta-I-Have-No-Idea, but my better half, who has an MBA from MIT, nailed it within seconds.
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Post by Leander » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:11 pm

I know I was surprised no one recognized William F Buckley Jr.

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Post by ChemTeacher » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:14 pm

Dr. J wrote:And I was just relating my embarrassing Venn diagram story to a friend the other day -- be careful what you draw on the board in front of undergrads! :lol:
I think I know where you're going with this, Stephanie. And it can happen in chemistry class, too. Hey class, let's talk about the definition of atomic radius:
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Brrr. Pretty cold outside for our Miss Oxygen molecule, wouldn't you say?

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Post by ChemTeacher » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:16 pm

lisa0012 wrote:Poll question: Did anyone who got FJ! right actually know his first name? Or anything else he accomplished?
(raises hand from the back of the classroom)
I think he came up with this logo?
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Post by Dr. J » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:06 pm

ChemTeacher wrote:
Dr. J wrote:And I was just relating my embarrassing Venn diagram story to a friend the other day -- be careful what you draw on the board in front of undergrads! :lol:
I think I know where you're going with this, Stephanie. And it can happen in chemistry class, too.
Ok, the context is very important for this story, and it's rated R, so delicate readers should move along...
I was teaching a Foodways class and trying to get my students to understand how we define "food" differently than simply edible substances. So I started drawing a Venn diagram with a big circle that was "food." We then talked about things like beverages, which my students didn't want to classify as food, so I put a big circle right next to it for "drink." But then there was a debate about things like medicine and twinkies and other snacks that are eaten, but may or may not be "food." So I drew a long oblong shape extending from the intersection of food and drink downward. As I was finishing it (in glorious red marker on a whiteboard), I realized I had drawn a huge set of male genitalia. :oops: Some of my students saw it coming and were already laughing, and the others caught up pretty quickly. Luckily, this was an upper-level seminar, so I knew most of the students pretty well. Because I'm no shrinking violet, and I fully believe in making embarrassing situations even MORE uncomfortable for everyone involved, I said, "I think this proves my point about how not everything you put in your mouth is food." And then erased the board and we all laughed for a long time :lol: NOT a story I could share with Alex, right? Shame, that.
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Post by Paucle » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:21 pm

Yeah, you could've. True, they would've edited it out. But the real delay would've been having to wait hours for the audience laughter to die down. And how to contain giggle fits for you players for the rest of the show?

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Post by Johnblue » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:26 pm

No clues mentioned recent dead celebrities but they did have a few who've been in the news recently like Hope Solo. I think if they'd used a more recent picture of WFB Jr. someone might have gotten it. Kate was impressive.

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