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Thursday, December 13, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:30 am

Game Recap for Show #6499, 2012-12-13

CONTESTANTS
John McGee, a training specialist from Dallas, Texas
Judy Strong, a social worker from Bellevue, Washington
Alistair Bell, a computer chip designer from Berlin, Massachusetts (whose 1-day cash winnings total $13,200)

OPENING REMARKS
Alex:
Thank you, Johnny.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome.
Our champion, Alistair Bell, was born just outside of London in England and is now an American citizen and surprised a lot of people yesterday on our show by his knowledge of Americana.
How will he do today against the J's--Judy and John?
Welcome aboard, you two.
And good luck to all three.
Here we go.
The Jeopardy! round.
Let's start finding out what you know about these subjects...

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
LITERARY RELATIONS (3/5, including 1 missed Daily Double)
HODGEPODGE (3/5)
ORDINAL NUMBER PHRASES (5/5)
I'M GAME (5/5)
PORT (5/5)
STAR BOARDS (4/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
John: 11 R (including 1 rebound), 1 W
Alistair: 6 R (including 1 rebound), 0 W
Judy: 8 R (including 1 rebound), 4 W (including 1 DD)

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 4
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $2,800



JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Judy found the Daily Double on the 6th clue. Alistair had no money, Judy had $600, and John had nothing in the bank. Judy wagered $1,000.

LITERARY RELATIONS $1000: Last name of Biff & Happy, brothers in a stage play
(Judy: [exhaling slowly] I don't know.)
...
(Alex: The play is Death of a Salesman, and the last name is [*].
Dad, Willy [*].
All right. You're at minus 400. Still early. Go again.)

SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
John: $1,400
Judy: $400
Alistair: $0

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Alex:
John Mcgee is from Dallas, Texas.
He's a training specialist.
Does that mean military?

John:
Yes, it does.

Alex:
And you spent some time...

John:
In the navy.
Yes, sir.

Alex:
In the navy.
But you were in Iraq?

John: I was.

Alex: In Operation...

John: Early beginning of Operation Iraqi Freedom in 2003.

Alex:
And what were you doing?

John:
On my 28th birthday, I was actually spending a lot of that time in a bunker, wearing chemical gear after flying all night.
So, it was a real nice 28th birthday.

Alex:
Uh-huh.
Happy birthday to you.

John:
Thank you.

Alex:
Okay.




Alex:
Judy Strong is a social worker from Washington--Belleville, Washington, the state of Washington--who used to drive carriages in Central Park.

Judy:
Yes, I did.
And one time, my horse and carriage ran away from me down Central Park south, and I saw I couldn't catch up.
And there was an empty cab on the corner, so I jumped into the cab and I said,
"Follow that horse!"

[Laughter]

Alex:
Good for you.




Alex:
Alistair Bell.
He was born in England.
He's now from Berlin, Massachusetts.
And it says here that you didn't mind the gap.
Now, tell the folks what the gap is.

Alistair:
Well, at London tube stations, there is often a fairly big gap between the train and the platform, and you have to be careful when you get on.
I didn't.

Alex:
Were you on your cell phone?

Alistair:
I was too busy, talking on my cell phone, and I fell down.
Thankfully, I managed to get up before the train left.

Alex:
Good for you, 'cause if you had fallen down before or after the train left, you'd be sitting down there, not doing too well.
No.

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
LITERARY RELATIONS $800: Gertrude is Paul Morel's mom in this D.H. Lawrence novel
(Judy: What is Lady Chatterley's Lover?)

HODGEPODGE $400: Many of this country's diplomats were expelled after its Houla massacre in 2012

HODGEPODGE $600: Since 1924 this alliterative item has been used as a daily time signal by the BBC
(Alex: And that would be [*]. Alistair, I'm surprised you didn't ring in on that one.)

STAR BOARDS $1000: No way, José; that's this Cuban-American actor with his wife, Ms. Hepburn

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
John: $6,200
Alistair: $4,200
Judy: $400

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Post by Archivists » Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:30 am

DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
COMPOSERS (3/5)
GERMAN "E" (5/5)
GEOGRAPHIC PHRASES (4/5)
18th CENTURY TECHNOLOGY (5/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
POLITICAL MEMOIRS (5/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
MARVEL NOW! (3/5) (Alex: And in honor of a re-launch of some of marvel's most popular characters)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Alistair: 13 R (including 1 rebound and 2 DDs), 1 W
John: 7 R (including 1 rebound), 2 W
Judy: 5 R, 1 W

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 5
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $7,200



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Alistair snagged the next Daily Double on the 19th clue. Alistair had $10,200, Judy had $6,400, and John was at $10,200. Alistair wagered $2,000.

18th CENTURY TECHNOLOGY $1600: Musicians can thank John Shore, who invented this in 1711; it vibrated at 423.5 cycles a second

SECOND DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
It was Alistair who snatched up the last Daily Double of the game on the 23rd clue. Alistair had $15,000, Judy had $6,800, and John was at $10,200. Alistair wagered $2,000.

POLITICAL MEMOIRS $1200: Going from the White House to ABC news, he wrote "All Too Human: A Political Education" about his Clinton years

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
COMPOSERS $800: In honor of the 200th anniversary of his birth, Poland proclaimed 2010 "the year of" this composer
(John: Who is Strauss?)
...
(Alex: Famous Polish pianist [*].)

COMPOSERS $1200: One encyclopedia says of this Bach contemporary, "in 1715, he was the most famous composer alive"

GEOGRAPHIC PHRASES $1600: The "great" one of these can refer to death or form part of the Montana-Idaho border

MARVEL NOW! $2000: Marvel promises all-new chimichangas for this mercenary, also known as Wade Wilson

MARVEL NOW! $1600: Trailing a god killer, Thor visits not only Viking times, but this realm of the Norse gods
(Alistair: What is Valhalla?)
...
(Alex: Visiting [*]. Valhalla is the room where they were greeted.)

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
Alistair: $19,000
John: $11,000
Judy: $4,800

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
OLYMPIC GOLD MEDALISTS

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
Crush for first place.
Alistair: Wager $3,001 to cover John, but no more than $9,399 so as not to fall behind Judy's doubled score.
John: You have the hope of surpassing Alistair if you come up with the correct response. Bet at least $8,001 to force Alistair to wager to win; but if you're intent on holding on to second place, wager no more than $1,399 to protect your second place position from being usurped by Judy.
Judy: Unfortunately, your score is less than the difference between the scores of the first and second place players, so unless they both blunder, you're competing for second place and have no hopes of first. Wager as much as you desire, but remember, you'll have better chances of advancing to second place if you have a larger sum left over on a Triple Stumper.

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
Before Michael Phelps in 2008, he was the last American to win 5 individual golds in one Olympics; he did it at Lake Placid

FINAL SCORES
Judy: $4,800 - $2,800 = $2,000 (Who is Eric Hansen) (2nd place: $2,000)
John: $11,000 - $9,001 = $1,999 (Who was Smith?) (3rd place: $1,000)
Alistair: $19,000 - $3,001 = $15,999 (Who is ?) (2-day champion: $29,199)
(Alex: In fact, he was the first athlete ever to win five Olympic gold medals.)
...
(Alex: Who is--Judy was closest.
She was on the right track.
It's [*]. [*], the speed skater.
I'm sure you were thinking of him.
You didn't come up with the right name.)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $10,000

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
Alistair: $17,800, 19 R (including 2 DDs), 1 W
John: $11,000, 18 R, 3 W
Judy: $5,800, 13 R, 5 W (including 1 DD)
Combined Coryat: $34,600

BATTING AVERAGES
Alistair: 19/60 = .317
John: 18/58 = .310
Judy: 13/59 = .220
Team: 50/63 = .794

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
STAR BOARDS $200: This actor/director looks as if he's about to shanghai a lady--Rita Hayworth
(John: Who is Bob Hope?)

STAR BOARDS $400: John Bonham, drummer of this rock group, is on the stairway to Starship, their tour plane

PORT $800: Papeete on this island is the chief port of French Polynesia
(Judy: What is Fiji?)

STAR BOARDS $600: It's Pepsi CEO Alfred Steele & this actress; the plane will surely not be housed in a wire "hangar"
(Judy: Who is...oh, I'm blanking.)

STAR BOARDS $800: Here's Vivien Leigh alongside this husband, a British stage & screen star

I'M GAME $200: (Jimmy of the Clue Crew draws a box in the air with his fingers.) In charades, I'm telling the other players the answer will be one of these

I'M GAME $1000: In England the board game "Clue" goes by this slightly longer name
(Alex: We've had a few English clues that seem to be coincidentally helping you out.)

POLITICAL MEMOIRS $1600: This Secretary of State wrote "The Politics of Diplomacy: Revolution, War and Peace, 1989-1992"
(John: Who is Shultz?)

POLITICAL MEMOIRS $2000: Working with presidents from Nixon to Clinton, this commentator wrote "Eyewitness to Power"
(Judy: Who is Broder?)

MARVEL NOW! $400: He was once the incredible, but now he's the indestructible this

MARVEL NOW! $1200: Iron Man is this billionaire crime fighter who sports a new suit of armor in each of the first five new issues

MARVEL NOW! $800: Sue and Reed's kids are part of the fun when this alliterative group embarks on its epic journey

CORRECT RESPONSES
Loman
Sons and Lovers
Syria
Big Ben
Mel Ferrer
a tuning fork
George Stephanopoulos
Chopin
(George Frideric) Handel
the great divide
Deadpool
Asgard
Eric Heiden
Orson Welles
Led Zeppelin
Tahiti
Joan Crawford
Laurence Olivier
a TV show
Cluedo
James Baker
(David) Gergen
the Hulk
Tony Stark
The Fantastic Four

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Re: Thursday, December 13, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by JFanForever » Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:03 pm

7 right in the first round with 10 right in DJ and an instaget FJ as I got it as Alex was still reading the clue.

What did he mean the first to win five gold medals? Mark Spitz won seven in 1972.

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Post by Bamaman » Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:30 pm

He meant the last to win five since the guy in 1980.

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Post by dhkendall » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:00 pm

Bamaman wrote:He meant the last to win five since the guy in 1980.
Then was Alex wrong saying that that Eric fellow was the first to win 5 after the 30 seconds was up?

Congrats again, Alistair, but I have to give you grief for mispronouncing "lieutenant" (loo-ten-ant? Really?) Look forward to seeing you tomorrow on the 6,500th Episode Spectacular!
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Post by ComingUpMilhouse » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:03 pm

dhkendall wrote:
Bamaman wrote:He meant the last to win five since the guy in 1980.
Then was Alex wrong saying that that Eric fellow was the first to win 5 after the 30 seconds was up?
I looked at the Clue of the Day earlier -- I think the clue specified five INDIVIDUAL golds, and Mark Spitz's seven includes relays?

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Post by lisa0012 » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:45 pm

ComingUpMilhouse wrote:
dhkendall wrote:
Bamaman wrote:He meant the last to win five since the guy in 1980.
Then was Alex wrong saying that that Eric fellow was the first to win 5 after the 30 seconds was up?
I looked at the Clue of the Day earlier -- I think the clue specified five INDIVIDUAL golds, and Mark Spitz's seven includes relays?
According to Wikipedia, only 3 people have won 5 individual gold- Heiden, Vitaly Scherbo for gymnastics in 1992, and Michael Phelps in 2008. They have Spitz at 4, so the rest were relays.

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Re: Thursday, December 13, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Linear Gnome » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:17 pm

dhkendall wrote:Congrats again, Alistair, but I have to give you grief for mispronouncing "lieutenant" (loo-ten-ant? Really?) Look forward to seeing you tomorrow on the 6,500th Episode Spectacular!
Ditto on the congrats and noticing the pronunciation of "lieutenant".

I was impressed that Alistair got Smetana after a couple of the nominally easier questions in the category (Chopin and Handel) were triple stumpers.

I got my first FJ of the week today--being 51 years old helped, I think.

It must be so frustrating to buzz in knowing that you know something, but being unable to retrieve the answer quickly enough. I recall reading that one of Ken Jennings's strengths was buzzing in if he thought he could spit out the answer in time, even if he didn't have it at first.

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Post by econgator » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:29 pm

Linear Gnome wrote:I was impressed that Alistair got Smetana
*nod* There was a weird jump after that clue. Do you remember what happened there, Alistair (and how do you miss Big Ben?????? ;) )?

FJ was instaget -- I remember watching those Olympics.

Congrats on #2!

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Post by NoName84 » Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:08 pm

I happened to know FJ!, but it's one you either know or you don't; I don't like those sort of clues for the final.

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Post by econgator » Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:12 pm

Oh yeah ... never heard of Freeze Tag, either as a game or a .... whatever the hell else it was.

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Post by Dr. J » Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:13 pm

I remember as a little girl thinking that Eric Heiden was pretty dreamy, so I got that one right away. Congrats on Smetana -- I said Dvorak. :(

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:28 pm

Still doing terribly. Got only 6 right in J!, with 0/5 in Literary and Port, and only $1000 in Games.

On the other hand, Germany was a 4/5, with only Ersatz eluding me. I surprised myself by getting Smetana in Composers — "The Bartered Bride" was a preset on the first keyboard I ever owned, and that name always stuck with me.

No guess on FJ! as usual.

By the by, it seems we're still in search of a Thursday recapper. J! gets pre-empted a lot less often than Wheel around these parts, and I'm already recapping Wheel as often as I can, so I'm definitely in for a Thursday.
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Post by StrangerCoug » Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:37 pm

Figured that Cluedo would be an instaget for Alistair.

I feel I did better than usual for Double Jeopardy. Got 4/5 in German "E" (blanked on Edelweiss), and found myself with a lucky strike with Chopin.

FJ is the usual disappointment it has been at least since I started getting on these boards, and a double whammy for me to boot—I'm weak in just about anything regarding people, and I care little for sports. Only reason I've heard of Michael Phelps is because I felt like keeping track of swimming when the 2012 Olympics were on.

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Post by Steppenwolf » Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:46 pm

Yes.. the clue for FJ did specify 'INDIVIDUAL gold medals'. I said Eric Heiden for lack of a better answer, but was pretty sure he came after Mark Spitz.
Then all became clear later. But Alex did appear to mis-state the question when paraphrasing before revealing the contestants answers.

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Post by Paucle » Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:50 pm

I was actually at the 5k Race, so Eric Heiden was a gimmie. His sister Beth medaled too, but just a bronze.

My desktop screensaver is a slide show of this collection of old photos from my grandmother, who was first generation Czech, and one of the shots is of the cover to a playbill for The Bartered Bride, and Smetana is there big and bold (Gramma always said it SMET-en-uh.) It was a performance when mom went to Europe in the late 40s.
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Post by thenextofken » Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:14 pm

FJ was an instaget for me, having watched those very Olympics. When I read the clue, it was, as Bob Harris might say, "olympic gold medals bla bla bla Lake Placid." Without the Lake Placid in the clue I would've said Mark Spitz.

Was surprised Alex didn't ask for a BMS on Gershwin, since there was also Ira.

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Post by Fishercat » Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:44 pm

It took me a while to pull Heiden out of the recesses of the brain. But I found it to avoid another embarrassing Olympics FJ miss.

And I love Allistair's accent. A day late but still.

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Post by kickerofelves » Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:45 pm

thenextofken wrote:Was surprised Alex didn't ask for a BMS on Gershwin, since there was also Ira.
Yes, but Ira was the lyricist...

FJ was a get for me, but I was far from 100% on it. 1980's not *quite* before my time, but pretty much before my recollection...

Congrats to Alistair on another nice win!

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Post by BADuBois » Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:50 pm

No offense to the participants but this was sort of a "meh" game to me, probably because I was watching it while wrestling on the floor of my living room with a floor lamp that needed to be repaired... or tossed out the window in frustration. A lot of questions went unanswered that I thought were relatively easy, like Chopin.
thenextofken wrote: Was surprised Alex didn't ask for a BMS on Gershwin, since there was also Ira.
My thoughts exactly.

As before, saw the FJ in today's NYT and it was a Let-me-think-about-it-get... nothing very Insta about it.

Congrats again to Alistair... another victory on par with Trafalgar.

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