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Re: for Survivor talk

Post by Category 13 » Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:11 pm

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I wish we could have ever had some reason why Nick was so dead-set on getting Alison out. I never got any sense she was any sort of threat to win (although that may have just been because of her lack of screen time).
A couple things I picked up on about Nick from the later episodes: He had a highly vindictive attitude against anyone who dared plot a blindside on him. He was also one of the most paranoid post merge players I've ever seen on the show. If a player were wary about those two personality traits, they could have used it to manipulate his vote quite easily, IMO.

I didn't see Alison as a threat either. Malnutrition seemed to be wearing her down in the late stages of the game.
As far as rooting, I was neutral on her for most of the game. But she completely lost me when she went straight to Mike (?) and spilled the beans about Christian's plan to blindside Nick. I couldn't wait to see her go after that.

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Post by harrumph » Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:30 pm

There was a lot of questionable babbling of secret plans this season. No one could keep their mouth shut and at the same time the plotters didn't need to tell nearly everyone of secret plans.

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Post by Category 13 » Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:39 pm

I missed the first five episodes due to being on an extended road trip.
As my rooting interests developed, I liked Davie as my favorite to win, with Christian a close second. Carl was my favorite underdog.
After Christian and Davie where voted off, I had no one left to root for. Mike's confessionals were entertaining, and spot on with the assessment of the other players.
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I wanted Kara to win the fire making challenge but she just choked badly. I would have voted for Mike to win after he made the Final 3.
Nick made the correct choice to take Angelina to the F3. She just kept digging herself deeper and deeper in the final tribal. No self awareness whatsoever but plenty of self centered.

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Re: for Survivor talk

Post by jeff6286 » Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:42 pm

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I didn't see Alison as a threat either. Malnutrition seemed to be wearing her down in the late stages of the game.
As far as rooting, I was neutral on her for most of the game. But she completely lost me when she went straight to Mike (?) and spilled the beans about Christian's plan to blindside Nick. I couldn't wait to see her go after that.
I've not been a regular Survivor viewer but watched this season start to finish. That was one of the things that struck me most is how no one ever seemed to have any idea of who they should trust or any sense about keeping crucial information to themselves. Nearly every time someone tried to make a big move, someone they confided in immediately went and spilled the beans to someone else, and usually either 2nd or 3rd hand, the potential victim was made aware of it. Likewise with everyone wanting to tell people they found an idol, tell people that someone else had an idol, tell about plans for a fake idol, etc. I guess knowledge is power so people want to give stuff away in order to hopefully curry favor with others but at some point keeping stuff to yourself would be quite powerful as well and it didn't feel like anyone on this show ever got that.

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Post by Category 13 » Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:49 pm

MarkBarrett wrote: The most disappointing part of the reunion show was (no results spoiler): No ceremonial burning of Angelina's pants.
Not quite Phillip Shepherd's pink undershorts but I see your point.

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Post by MarkBarrett » Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:55 pm

The season had swings with the Goliaths ahead 7-6 at the merge and 7-5 after the first vote yet the Davids were able to swing the advantage back to their side. It went the other way with Goliath ahead 4-1 by the end though they could not close their edge thanks to Nick's winning individual immunity challenges.

Of the final 3 I would have gone minority with a vote for Mike as he was not the one being blindsided on multiple votes. Mike has competed on 2 of the 3 big CBS reality shows. Next they should throw him in in the Big Brother celebrity house for a couple of weeks.

Angelina was a fascinating villain and I expect to see her on Survivor again. She played hard and was always thinking of creative ways to top previous evil deeds.

I did not mind Natalie from a TV distance while I kept thinking I would not want her as a boss, co-worker or neighbor. It's hilarious that she did not think she was portrayed fairly on the show.

Alec is the not the first dummy to violate the NDA and cost himself money and the chance to be at the reunion.

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Post by Category 13 » Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:05 pm

jeff6286 wrote:Likewise with everyone wanting to tell people they found an idol, tell people that someone else had an idol, tell about plans for a fake idol, etc. I guess knowledge is power so people want to give stuff away in order to hopefully curry favor with others but at some point keeping stuff to yourself would be quite powerful as well and it didn't feel like anyone on this show ever got that.
That's one of my biggest peaves about the show. The lack of self discipline on keeping an idol secret drives me crazy. Of the few players who have never told a sole until they played it, (Russell Hantz not withstanding) Jeremy is the only one that comes to mind. And that went a long way towards him deservidly winning.

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JayK33 wrote: Spoiler=regarding the returnees: David and Aubry are the two of those four I am looking forward to seeing again the most. The other two I don't care about.
Aubry was an interesting player and had my rooting interest during B vs B vs B. But after her return for another season I quickly grew tired of her presence in the game. She seemed to be developing too much of a self entitlement complex as the game wore on, IMHO.
David was a very likable underdog in his season. But he had more than his share of camera time, IMO, and I think that is likely to continue and cause me to grow weary of him. They need to either put a two season cap on popular players or give them more than a couple years off before bringing them back .

I always get Joe mixed up with Malcolm Freberg.

Kelly Wentworth, WTF? It seems they are still having trouble filling out a cast with fresh faces.

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Re: for Survivor talk

Post by teapot37 » Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:18 pm

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Angelina was a fascinating villain and I expect to see her on Survivor again. She played hard and was always thinking of creative ways to top previous evil deeds.
Probst has already said she is his #1 choice for a returning contestant from this season.
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Re: for Survivor talk

Post by Category 13 » Fri Dec 21, 2018 4:00 pm

teapot37 wrote:
MarkBarrett wrote: Angelina was a fascinating villain and I expect to see her on Survivor again. She played hard and was always thinking of creative ways to top previous evil deeds.
Probst has already said she is his #1 choice for a returning contestant from this season.
As if she hasn't made enough of a social media punching bag of herself.
I guess for Jeff, its good ratings at any cost.

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