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Re: for Survivor talk

Post by Johnblue » Sun May 19, 2013 7:07 pm

They're bringing back Redemption Island. Between that & family members, I'm done.

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Re: for Survivor talk

Post by Paucle » Sun May 19, 2013 9:22 pm

Me too!
And this time I mean it, not like the last eight times I said that! ;)

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Re: for Survivor talk

Post by marpocky » Sun May 19, 2013 10:12 pm

I get why people hate Redemption Island, but if it's a known quantity before people are voted out, I think it's fair. They know ahead of time that voting someone off isn't the end of them. Springing it on them after people have been voted out and doing duels for a while is lame though (which is why the "castaways" twist in Pearl Islands was so terrible).

I'll give this new twist a chance.

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Re: for Survivor talk

Post by Johnblue » Sun May 19, 2013 10:20 pm

The problem with RI is that it does away with reward challenges. It's also boring. I'm also tired of returning players. Cockrane just tweeted something and Russell tweeted back that having a per-show alliance made his win a bit...easier. Not a Russell fan but he does have a point. At least TAR has held to its original format for the most part.

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Re: for Survivor talk

Post by StevenH » Mon May 20, 2013 11:40 am

Spoiler rant about the contestants who are going to be on next season:
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I am pissed that Rupert, Colton, and Tina are coming back, and I could also do without Tyson. If you are going to bring back returning players at least bring back good ones. Rupert gets to play four times but Hunter Ellis, Andrew Savage, Todd Herzog, and Terry Deitz will never get a second chance, really!? As long as Probst stays on as a producer this will be the continued trend for the show, I am afraid.

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Re: for Survivor talk

Post by marpocky » Mon May 20, 2013 12:10 pm

StevenH wrote:Spoiler rant about the contestants who are going to be on next season:
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I am pissed that Rupert, Colton, and Tina are coming back, and I could also do without Tyson. If you are going to bring back returning players at least bring back good ones. Rupert gets to play four times but Hunter Ellis, Andrew Savage, Todd Herzog, and Terry Deitz will never get a second chance, really!? As long as Probst stays on as a producer this will be the continued trend for the show, I am afraid.
Well, you can't fault them for the players they don't bring back. You never know who was asked and turned it down. I agree about not being a fan of the batch they did get though. Although, to be fair to them, I was really not excited about the returnees from Caramoan, and (except for Brandon) it ended up working out well enough.

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Re: for Survivor talk

Post by Linear Gnome » Mon May 20, 2013 8:37 pm

StevenH wrote:Spoiler rant about the contestants who are going to be on next season:
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I am pissed that Rupert, Colton, and Tina are coming back, and I could also do without Tyson. If you are going to bring back returning players at least bring back good ones. Rupert gets to play four times but Hunter Ellis, Andrew Savage, Todd Herzog, and Terry Deitz will never get a second chance, really!? As long as Probst stays on as a producer this will be the continued trend for the show, I am afraid.
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After suffering through the Hantzes, another season of Colton might just be enough to drive me away--if not for good, then for this season.

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Re: for Survivor talk

Post by marpocky » Mon May 20, 2013 8:47 pm

Linear Gnome wrote:
StevenH wrote:Spoiler rant about the contestants who are going to be on next season:
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I am pissed that Rupert, Colton, and Tina are coming back, and I could also do without Tyson. If you are going to bring back returning players at least bring back good ones. Rupert gets to play four times but Hunter Ellis, Andrew Savage, Todd Herzog, and Terry Deitz will never get a second chance, really!? As long as Probst stays on as a producer this will be the continued trend for the show, I am afraid.
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After suffering through the Hantzes, another season of Colton might just be enough to drive me away--if not for good, then for this season.
The sad part is
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it was supposed to be Rob C from Amazon and his wife, but she got pregnant and they had to drop out. Colton was the alternate.

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Re: for Survivor talk

Post by MarkBarrett » Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:08 am

On the 3/19 episode: No voting spoilers, but separation spoilers ahead. Stop reading if you care and have not watched yet.

There were three tribes remaining: Brains, Brawn, Beauty

Brains: 3 players
Brawn: 6 players
Beauty: 5 players
Total: 14 players

Jeff told them they were going to become two tribes by random draw of concealed buffs. 7 were purple and 7 were orange.

After the draw:
Orange: Brain x 3, Beauty x 3, Brawn x 1
Purple: Brawn x 5, Beauty x 2

What were the odds that the three Brains stayed together?
What were the odds that one Brawn would be a singleton?

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Re: for Survivor talk

Post by BobF » Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:51 am

MarkBarrett wrote:On the 3/19 episode: No voting spoilers, but separation spoilers ahead. Stop reading if you care and have not watched yet.

There were three tribes remaining: Brains, Brawn, Beauty

Brains: 3 players
Brawn: 6 players
Beauty: 5 players
Total: 14 players

Jeff told them they were going to become two tribes by random draw of concealed buffs. 7 were purple and 7 were orange.

After the draw:
Orange: Brain x 3, Beauty x 3, Brawn x 1
Purple: Brawn x 5, Beauty x 2

What were the odds that the three Brains stayed together?
What were the odds that one Brawn would be a singleton?
The brains one is easy. (But this is ignoring order of the draw since I don't watch the show.) First one, doesn't matter which team he's on. Second one it's 6/13 because out of 13 spots, 6 are on Brain1's team. Third one it's 5/12. Basically, it's about 1 in 5.

That being said, is there enough interest for me to start an "Amazing Race" discussion thread on here? :-)
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Re: for Survivor talk

Post by Fishercat » Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:58 am

The forum ate my post, so the short version that may be wrong. I think Bob's right for the first one (just below 20%). For the second one, I think after the gimme (say on Tribe A), it either has to be a 4/1 split (A/B) or an 0/5 split (A/B). My calculations put each of those odds around 1.6%, so just over 3% for the chances of a 5/1 brawn split over the two tribes*

*Something like 1 * (6/13) * (5/12) * (4/11) * (3/10) * (7/9) and 1 * (7/13) * (6/12) * (5/11) * (4/10) * (3/9)

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Re: for Survivor talk

Post by MarkBarrett » Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:49 am

Thanks for the responses. I figured the 5/1 had to be an unusual occurence. The draw order was Brains, Brawn, then Beauty.

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Re: for Survivor talk

Post by harrumph » Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:40 pm

We've also seen a lot of suboptimal stratergizing on Survivor this season.

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Re: for Survivor talk

Post by lieph82 » Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:42 pm

harrumph wrote:We've also seen a lot of suboptimal stratergizing on Survivor this season.
But who needs rice, really?

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Re: for Survivor talk

Post by naurae29 » Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:47 pm

lieph82 wrote:
harrumph wrote:We've also seen a lot of suboptimal stratergizing on Survivor this season.
But who needs rice, really?
Who needs competence? Who needs subtlety? Not the Brains.

Rooting for Spencer. Y'all?

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Re: for Survivor talk

Post by lieph82 » Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:49 pm

naurae29 wrote:
lieph82 wrote:
harrumph wrote:We've also seen a lot of suboptimal stratergizing on Survivor this season.
But who needs rice, really?
Who needs competence? Who needs subtlety? Not the Brains.

Rooting for Spencer. Y'all?
On a personal level, I like all 3 remaining brains, Jefra, and Woo. Rooting for Kass.

Also, last night's episode was an example of the editors leaving way too much on the cutting room floor.

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Re: for Survivor talk

Post by harrumph » Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:10 pm

The editors are giving a ton of screen time to challenges, at the expense of tribe dynamics. The true foolishness of this season is that they are all playing the end game when it's still the beginning or middle game (chess metaphor).

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Re: for Survivor talk

Post by MDaunt » Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:00 pm

The nuclear engineer scares the hell out of me. Makes Homer Simpson look competent.

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Re: for Survivor talk

Post by lisa0012 » Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:05 pm

At this point I am happy with most people who aren't cops or models.

I'm up for an AR talk too. Go cowboys!

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Re: for Survivor talk

Post by lieph82 » Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:16 pm

I like the cowboys, and the globetrotters and Margie and Luke, but I think there were so many teams they could have invited back for a second time that they passed over to give these guys a third chance. Art and JJ? James and Abba? Go Dave and Connor!

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