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Monday, November 4, 2013 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

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Game Recap for Show #6701, 2013-11-04

CONTESTANTS
Woody Houchin, a medical assistant from Chico, California
Ramsin Toma, an enrollment consultant from Ashburn, Virginia
Norah McKissic, an embroiderer and student from Anchorage, Alaska (whose 1-day cash winnings total $11,400)

OPENING REMARKS
Alex: Thanks, Johnny. Thank you, everyone. Welcome to our show. Another great Lindblad National Explorer expedition available today to you, our viewers. We'll have details later on in the half-hour. You've met the players. Good luck to the three of you. And here are the categories...

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
ST. PAUL'S CATHEDRAL (4/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
THE WORLD SERIES (3/4)
SINGING (3/3)
FLORA! FLORA! FLORA! (4/5)
NUMERICAL GROUPS (2/5)
"OU" 5-LETTER WORDS (4/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Woody: 8 R, 0 W
Norah: 8 R (including 1 DD), 0 W
Ramsin: 4 R, 1 W

Clues revealed: 27
Triple Stumpers: 7
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $4,800



JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Norah found the Daily Double on the 5th clue. Norah had $1,400, Ramsin was in the red with -$600, and Woody had nothing in the bank. Norah made it a True Daily Double, wagering $1,400.

ST. PAUL'S CATHEDRAL $1000: In 1969 the Alabama-born widow of this man became the first woman to preach in St. Paul's
(Norah: [Laughing ] I want to make it a True Daily Double.)
(Alex: Why is that so funny?)
(Norah: Because it could be bad.)
(Alex: Oh. Well, let's hope it's good.)

SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
Woody: $3,200
Norah: $3,200
Ramsin: $0

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Alex: Woody Houchin is from Chico, California, and he just participated in a very long run. What are we talking about here?

Woody: Well, it was a Native American ancestral run, and it was over 100 miles of running from Mt. Shasta to Mt. Lassen in Northern California.

Alex: You say it's a Native American thing. Are you part Native American?

Woody: No, I'm not, but my girlfriend is a Wintu.

Alex: Okay.




Alex: Ramsin Toma from Ashburn, Virginia. Speaks Assyrian and English.

Ramsin: Yes, sir.

Alex: Are there a lot of people who speak Assyrian today?

Ramsin: No, there are not. It's one of the smallest minority groups in the entire world. I'd say there's only maybe a few million around the world that can still speak it.

Alex: If you had to compare Assyrian to any other language, what is it most similar to?

Ramsin: Um, I'd say its roots are very similar to Hebrew.

Alex: Ah, okay. Good.




Alex: Norah McKissic is from Anchorage, Alaska. As you heard in our introduction, she is an embroiderer and a student who is also a big football fan. For which team?

Norah: University of Alabama! Roll Tide!

Alex: How does a girl from Anchorage, Alaska, get to be an Alabama football fan?

Norah: My husband's originally from Smiths Station, Alabama, and he has converted me completely.

Alex: Okay, good for you and for him.

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
ST. PAUL'S CATHEDRAL $600: With pumps & pails,
a group called St. Paul's Watch protected the cathedral during this, which means "lightning"
(Ramsin: What is Blitzkreig?)

FLORA! FLORA! FLORA! $800: It's the heavenly avian name for the beautiful flowers of Strelitzia reginae

"OU" 5-LETTER WORDS $1000: From the Greek for "female slave", it's a woman who assists a mother during labor & after childbirth

NUMERICAL GROUPS $400: Les six were a group of anti-romantic Frenchmen in this profession, including Milhaud & Poulenc

THE WORLD SERIES $400: Yankee manager from 1949 to 1960, he won 37 World Series games, the most of any manager in history

NUMERICAL GROUPS $600: The group of elites that were convicted in China for implementing the Cultural Revolution

NUMERICAL GROUPS $1000: A 1936 book gave the Supreme Court this nickname; the justices' average age was 71

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
Norah: $5,400
Woody: $4,200
Ramsin: $1,000

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DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
PUP FICTION (4/5)
THE THESPIAN DIRECTS (4/5)
"C" THE WORLD (2/5, including 1 missed Daily Double)
LAMPS & LIGHTS (4/5)
PRECIOUS PHRASES (3/5)
THIRD PARTY PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES (3/4, including 1 correct Daily Double)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Woody: 11 R (including 1 rebound and 1 DD), 1 W (including 1 DD)
Ramsin: 4 R (including 1 rebound), 0 W
Norah: 5 R, 2 W

Clues revealed: 29
Triple Stumpers: 8
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $10,800



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Woody snagged the next Daily Double on the 5th clue. Norah had $5,800, Ramsin had $1,000, and Woody was at $6,200. Woody wagered $2,000.

"C" THE WORLD $1600: Its waters separate Azerbaijan from Turkmenistan
(Woody: What is China?)

SECOND DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
It was Woody who snatched up the last Daily Double of the game on the 29th clue. Norah had $5,800, Ramsin had $7,000, and Woody was at $13,400. Woody wagered $700.

THIRD PARTY PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES $1200: Socialist party,
1900, 1904, 1908, 1912 & 1920
[The end-of-round signal sounds.]

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
"C" THE WORLD $400: The West Indies archipelago discovered by Columbus in 1503 isn't the Crocodile Islands but these

"C" THE WORLD $2000: This city used to be a center for the Inquisition in the New World & is now a major Colombian oil port

PRECIOUS PHRASES $1200: The Bible asks, "Who can find a virtuous woman, for her price is far above" these

PRECIOUS PHRASES $2000: If you have a generous nature, you have this, the name of Zaphod's ship in "Hitchhiker's Guide"

LAMPS & LIGHTS $800: This row of very bright lights along the front of a stage is also a metaphor for the theater as a profession

THE THESPIAN DIRECTS $1200: Hey, Lavoine! This woman was a "Big" director in 1988

PUP FICTION $1200: This Yiddish author wrote "Rabchik, a Jewish Dog", or as we like to call it, "Piddler on the Rug"
(Alex: A minute to go now, Woody.)

THIRD PARTY PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES $2000: Seen here, Freedom and Peace Party,
1968
(a civil rights activist)

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
Woody: $14,100 (lock game)
Ramsin: $7,000
Norah: $5,800

PREFINAL REMARKS
(Before the Double Jeopardy! Round, Alex delivers a correction to his opening remarks.)
Alex: When I know I have made a mistake but I'm not sure exactly what it was. At the top of the program, I'm informed that I misspoke. I said "Lindblad National Explorer" instead of "National Geographic Expedition". I apologize for that, but the trip is a good one. You'll find out about it in a little bit.

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
FOOD & DRINK

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
Lock for first place; three-quarters for second place.
Woody: Wager between $0 (venusian) and $99 (martian), and enjoy your victory.
Ramsin: Wager $4,601 to cover Norah.
Norah: Risk between $1,201 and $3,400, covering Ramsin's $0 bet.

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
This soft drink was named for a digestive enzyme & a native African plant

FINAL SCORES
Norah: $5,800 - $5,700 = $100 (What is Coca-Cola?) (3rd place)
Ramsin: $7,000 + $5,011 = $12,011 (What is Pepsi?) (2nd place)
Woody: $14,100 + $0 = $14,100 (What is Pepsi?) (New champion: $14,100)
(Alex: Pepsin and the kola nut.)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $15,600

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
Woody: $16,600, 19 R (including 1 DD), 1 W (including 1 DD)
Ramsin: $7,000, 8 R, 1 W
Norah: $5,400, 13 R (including 1 DD), 2 W
Combined Coryat: $29,000

BATTING AVERAGES
Woody: 20/60 = .333
Norah: 13/59 = .220
Ramsin: 9/58 = .155
Team: 42/63 = .667

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
ST. PAUL'S CATHEDRAL $400: Look around you
in St. Paul's & you're taking in this man's true memorial, as his Latin epitaph in the cathedral says

ST. PAUL'S CATHEDRAL $800: In 1897, her diamond jubilee Thanksgiving service was a huge success at St. Paul's

FLORA! FLORA! FLORA! $1000: (Sarah of the Clue Crew presents the clue from Costa Rica.) Ferns are among the most ancient plants, With some species dating back more than 300 million years; all of them reproduce via these asexual cells that long predate the germ seeds of more modern plants

NUMERICAL GROUPS $800: Canada, France, Germany, the U.K., the U.S., Japan, Italy & Russia make up this list
(Alex: Yes, with less than a minute to go.)

SINGING $1000: A "sea" one is sung by sailors to the rhythm of their movements while working aboard ship
[The end-of-round signal sounds.]

THE THESPIAN DIRECTS $2000: You know who this director of "Iron Man" 1 & 2 likes to play Happy Hogan in those movies? This director
(Norah: Who is Kenneth Brannagh?)

PUP FICTION $2000: Argos is the faithful dog who recognizes his long-lost master in this ancient Greek work
(Norah: What is the Iliad?)

CORRECT RESPONSES
Martin Luther King, Jr.
Blitz
the bird of paradise
doula
composers
Casey Stengel
the Gang of Four
the "Nine Old Men"
the Caspian Sea
Eugene Debs
the Cayman Islands
Cartagena
rubies
a heart of gold
the footlights
Penny Marshall
Sholom Aleichem
Dick Gregory
Pepsi-Cola
Christopher Wren
Queen Victoria
spores
the G-8
a shanty
John Favreau
the Odyssey

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That was a solid game for Woody Houchin.

There may be a minor spoiler about a clue to follow in this post, if one hasn't already watched today's game.

Old Yeller actually didn't win the Newbery Medal for 1957 (Miracles on Maple Hill by Virginia Sorensen was the winner). I think the confusion stems from the fact that more than a decade after Old Yeller was first published, the ALA began awarding Newbery Honor citations each year in addition to the Medal, including retroactive citations for every year all the way back to 1922. Among the books honored in this way was Old Yeller. I can see how Jeopardy! would make the mistake; on rare occasion, I've even seen publishers confuse the Newbery Medal and Honor citations.

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Food & Drink
This soft drink was named for a digestive enzyme & a native African plant.

Spoiler
What is Pepsi-Cola? (just Pepsi accepted) Norah said Coca-Cola.


Woody Houchin: $14,100+$0=$14,100...now a 1-day champion with $14,100
Ramsin Toma: $7,000+$5,011=$12,011
Norah McKissik: $5,800-$5,700=$100
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And the carousel of champions continues to spin along as Norah becomes the fifth straight champ to crash and burn in their first defense.

I'm sure I wasn't the only one to grumble when they left the last baseball clue on the board. Then Alex correct himself about the contest sponsor and we missed the last clue in DJ and almost missed the DD.

Yes, Woody bet enough on the DD to get the lock (though I was worried his saying Spock's full name and title would cost us the DD altogether), but not enough to ensure the lock. If they had played the last clue, Ramsin breaks the lock if he gets it right and then would have won the game with the sole get in FJ.

He needed to bet $2,201 to ensure a lock going into FJ.

I had Coca-Cola on FJ. Blah.

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Rough J! board for me.

St. Paul's was really tough. I wasn't within a mile of any of the clues. What was supposed to lead you to Lady Di on $200? And Christopher Wren is really $400 material?

Heavenly + avian = bird of paradise eluded me. I ended up getting only $200 there.

Word categories are usually nice to me, but I've NHO "in for a penny/pound", and was too slow on both ghoul and trout. Picked up the Lach Trash on "doula" because I saw the word in the comic strip Baby Blues.

What was the clue to White Sox over Cubs on World Series for $200? (I actually knew Casey Stengel, but couldn't pull the name. Otherwise, no shot.)

$400 and $600 in Numerical Groups seemed really tough. I didn't see anything composer-y in $400 in particular.

Clammed on "shanty" because I was sure I was mis-remembering the word, due to "shanty" also being a cheap type of house.

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My thought on the second category in DJ!: "Thespians? That's illegal in seven states!"

Could that Cayman Islands clue ("C" for $400) have any more contrived of a TOM? On the other hand, Caspian was too easy on the DD. 0/5 for me there due to the clam on the DD.

That's not at all how I imagined "Ralph Fiennes" was pronounced, first or last name. Also 0/5 there, clamming on Stallone.

"Far above rubies" was a really obscure quote IMO.

The hazard light clue was funny since we ended up behind a stopped car on the way home from the supermarket just before J! came on.

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Digestive enzyme = pepsin = Pepsi. I'm a diehard Coke drinker and would rather drink antifreeze than Pepsi, but that didn't stop me from instagetting this. I'm surprised at the Coca-Cola guesses, since I would think everyone would know what the "coca" part refers to.
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Bamaman wrote:Yes, Woody bet enough on the DD to get the lock (though I was worried his saying Spock's full name and title would cost us the DD altogether), but not enough to ensure the lock. If they had played the last clue, Ramsin breaks the lock if he gets it right and then would have won the game with the sole get in FJ.

He needed to bet $2,201 to ensure a lock going into FJ.
*nod* After Alex made his comment about knowing his math, I said, "No, he really doesn't."

Took about 10 seconds, but Pepsi came to me and I was sure of it.

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TenPoundHammer wrote:What was the clue to White Sox over Cubs on World Series for $200? (I actually knew Casey Stengel, but couldn't pull the name. Otherwise, no shot.)
I'm guessing you don't know who Bartman is (and no, I don't think for one second that he cost the Cubs that series in the slightest -- the Cubs cost the Cubs that series).

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TenPoundHammer wrote:

What was the clue to White Sox over Cubs on World Series for $200?
The Cubs having not won a World Series since 1908 is pretty basic baseball knowledge.

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econgator wrote:
TenPoundHammer wrote:What was the clue to White Sox over Cubs on World Series for $200? (I actually knew Casey Stengel, but couldn't pull the name. Otherwise, no shot.)
I'm guessing you don't know who Bartman is (and no, I don't think for one second that he cost the Cubs that series in the slightest -- the Cubs cost the Cubs that series).
By the time next season rolls around, the Louisiana Purchase will be closer in time to the Cubs last World Series title than we are.

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The contestant in the middle wrote "Pepsi". Isn't this incorrect as it was half the answer, especially when the clue referenced the tree?

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Bamaman wrote:
I'm sure I wasn't the only one to grumble when they left the last baseball clue on the board.
Certainly not--I still could use a palate-cleanser after this year's WS, and running the category would have been a nice one.

I didn't write down the details, but I got $7800 at the fourth podium today plus the Caspian Sea DD (and FJ). No one remembers Zaphod Beeblebrox's ship? Sigh. :( :geek:

I was also a bit shocked that no one knew that Les Six were composers, spotted two of their names.

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Linear Gnome wrote: Certainly not--I still could use a palate-cleanser after this year's WS, and running the category would have been a nice one.
Add me and Paucle to that.
I didn't write down the details, but I got $7800 at the fourth podium today plus the Caspian Sea DD (and FJ). No one remembers Zaphod Beeblebrox's ship? Sigh. :( :geek:
Really? China???
And yeah, I was screaming at the TV on Heart of Gold.
I was also a bit shocked that no one knew that Les Six were composers, spotted two of their names.
If you gave me all six, I wouldn't have known who any of them were.

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econgator wrote: Really? China???
Probably misunderstood the question to be looking for a country. He had the only one on the continent that qualifies; be glad he didn't go with Cameroon or Chile.

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Oh come on, there was no way that that last clue was being uncovered. It was a miracle that we even saw 29 that round.
econgator wrote: If you gave me all six, I wouldn't have known who any of them were.
You gotta pay closer attention in those TD contests ;) But in all seriousness, it was undervalued. I also thought that the Cayman Islands clue was undervalued, at $400 in DJ.

This was a lackluster game and a not so good board, but I still feel like the contestants should have done better on the board. There were some overvalued clues, too...MLK Jr. at $1000, spores at $1000, and the lighthouse at $1600.

I was also disappointed that a World Series category was left up there, but I was really worried that we would only see one clue from that third party candidates category.

I am still kicking myself for losing yet another 50 50 90 guess, this time with William Jennings Bryan over Eugene Debs.

I had no idea on FJ. I guessed 7 Up. I might have gotten it with more time to think.

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Bamaman wrote:
TenPoundHammer wrote:What was the clue to White Sox over Cubs on World Series for $200?
The Cubs having not won a World Series since 1908 is pretty basic baseball knowledge.
Oh, duh. I knew that.

So for once, they have a "what team was Babe Ruth on" clue and it wasn't Yankees. For once, my utter inability to remember that fact helped.
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Bamaman wrote:
TenPoundHammer wrote:

What was the clue to White Sox over Cubs on World Series for $200?
The Cubs having not won a World Series since 1908 is pretty basic baseball knowledge.
Not to mention the fact that the clue mentioned the Houston Astros - which were, at the time, an NL team. Therefore, you pick Chicago's AL team.

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I was yelling "Doula! DOULA!!" at the screen.

FJ took a few seconds, but I got it in time.

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I got the Venus Flytrap clue, despite having no idea they're native to the Carolinas. I just figured: top of the board, and a plant that eats stuff.

I got "doula" because comedian Louis CK had a list of deliberately horrible jokes. One of them relied on a pun: "my doula's oblong daughter" = "medulla oblongata".

I remained clam on Numerical Groups at $1000. I said to myself, "It must be something along the lines of 'Nine Old Men', but I'm not ringing in."

My two "shout at the TV" moments were Caiman Islands and Penny Marshall.

I got Cote D'Ivoire, but I almost missed it. Cote D'Ivoire is what they wanted, because the French name starts with C, but the English name (Ivory Coast) doesn't. However, I almost said "Chad", where the English name does start with C, but the French name (Tchad) doesn't.

My one impulsive and regrettable neg of the game was blurting out "Marley and Me" for "Old Yeller". Yes, "Marley and Me" is a reasonably obvious tear-jerker about dogs, but I had forgotten possibly the most obvious dog-themed tear-jerker in history.

I got FJ, but it wasn't quite an instaget. I started by just listing some soft drinks with two-word names. Subconsciously, "plant" must have led me to the color green, because I started by considering "Seven Up" and "Mountain Dew". But I didn't see anything that looked like enzymes or plants there. So I just started thinking of popular soft drinks. Wasn't 100% sure that "pepsin" was a thing, but "dyspepsia" is (along with "Pepto-Bismol"), and that was enough to make me think that "Pepsi" was etymologically related to digestion. Also was reasonably sure "cola" was a plant of some kind, but knew no details. Good enough.

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