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Tuesday, November 12, 2013 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:30 am

Game Recap for Show #6707, 2013-11-12

2013 Teachers Tournament quarterfinal game 2.

CONTESTANTS
Kati Sorenson, a reading teacher from Omaha, Nebraska
Mary Beth Hammerstrom, a social studies teacher from Anchorage, Alaska
Patrick Dillon, a music teacher from Huntington, New York

OPENING REMARKS
Alex: Thank you, Johnny. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome. As with most of our tournaments, five quarterfinal games this week. The winners come back to play as semifinalists next week along with the four highest-scoring players among non-winners. Patrick, Mary Beth, and Kati, good luck. Here we go. Categories are...

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
GOING EMILY POST‑AL (5/5)
NOVELS BY CHARACTER (4/5)
NUMBER, PLEASE (4/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
THAT'S TOTALLY HISTORICAL! (5/5)
8-LETTER WORDS (5/5)
THE RACE IS TO THE STRONG (4/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Patrick: 12 R (including 1 rebound and 1 DD), 0 W
Mary Beth: 11 R, 3 W
Kati: 4 R, 0 W

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 3
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $2,600



SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
Patrick: $2,600
Mary Beth: $2,000
Kati: $1,600

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Katie Sorenson's students at Elkhorn Middle School: [Cheering] Antlers! Pump it up, pump it up! Big Red! Come on, come on! We yell, we cheer, we have no fear! Ms. Sorenson is here! Good luck, Ms. Sorenson!

[Cheers and applause]

Alex: I can't figure out, Kati Sorenson, if that kind of puts more pressure on you as a competitor on Jeopardy! than would otherwise be the case.

Kati: Probably more, yeah.

Alex: Yeah. Kids are fun, though, aren't they?

Kati: They are. I love them. They're great.

Alex: You were a political science major, and then you discovered teaching and for the past two years, that's your passion.

Kati: Yeah, I worked with an inner-city organization in New Orleans for a summer in college, working with, uh, inner-city children, and I realized that teaching was what I loved and it was what I was good at.

Alex: Okay. Good for you.




Alex: Mary Beth Hammerstrom from Anchorage, Alaska.

Mary Beth: Yes.

Alex: You also didn't start out in teaching. You were a...?

Mary Beth: I was originally a lawyer.

Alex: And who talked you into becoming a teacher?

Mary Beth: My brother. My brother's an English teacher in Marquette, Michigan, and when I was figuring--trying to figure out what I wanted to do next with my life, he dragged me into his classroom, said "Teach my kids how to argue," and at the end of it, he said, "You know, you might want to think about this as a career because you're kind of good at it." And I've never looked back. I love what I do.

Alex: Good. Good for you.




Alex: Patrick Dillon from Huntington, New York, elementary music teacher and still performs semi-professionally?

Patrick: Uh, yes, I perform with a bunch of people who used to be in college a capella groups, and we sing around New York City.

Alex: Do you get paid for it?

Patrick: Sometimes we do. [Chuckles]

Alex: Okay. That's good news.

JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Patrick found the Daily Double on the 27th clue. Patrick had $5,600, Mary Beth had $1,800, and Kati was at $2,800. Patrick wagered $1,400.

NUMBER, PLEASE $1000: Total cups in a gallon

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
NOVELS BY CHARACTER $800: Sir Kay,
Hank Morgan,
Merlin the Magician
(Mary Beth: What is... The Once and Future King?)

NUMBER, PLEASE $800: Number of hertz in a gigahertz
(Mary Beth: What's a thousand?)

THE RACE IS TO THE STRONG $1000: The brutal Barkley Marathons came to be after news of this assassin covering only 8 mi. after fleeing a Tenn. prison in 1977
(Mary Beth Hammerstrom's students at A.J. Dimond High School: We say "Hammer," then you say "strom"! Hammer! Strom! Hammer! Strom! Go-o-o-o, Miss Hammerstrom!)
[Cheers and applause]

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
Patrick: $8,000
Kati: $2,800
Mary Beth: $2,600

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DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
YOUR MYTHIC ABCs (4/5, including 1 missed Daily Double)
TEACHING THE TEACHERS (4/5)
QUOTABLE QUOTES (5/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
VOLCANOES (3/5)
ACTORS PLAYING WRITERS (5/5)
CROSSWORD CLUES "F" (5/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Mary Beth: 12 R (including 2 rebounds and 1 DD), 1 W (including 1 DD)
Patrick: 10 R, 1 W
Kati: 4 R, 1 W

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 3
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $5,600



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Mary Beth snagged the next Daily Double on the 5th clue. Patrick had $8,800, Mary Beth had $3,800, and Kati was at $3,600. Mary Beth wagered $1,000.

YOUR MYTHIC ABCs $1600: C:
This Greek sea monster is the personification of whirlpools
(Mary Beth: Who is the Kraken?)

SECOND DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
It was Mary Beth who snatched up the last Daily Double of the game on the 9th clue. Patrick had $10,800, Mary Beth had $4,800, and Kati was at $3,600. Mary Beth wagered $2,000.

QUOTABLE QUOTES $1600: At the Brandenburg Gate in 1987, President Reagan gave "Mr. Gorbachev" this 4-word challenge
(Alex: You said it so slowly it is as if you were on Wheel of Fortune instead of Jeopardy!)

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
VOLCANOES $1600: Mount Agung on this Indonesian island is sacred to the Hindu, & every temple has a shrine dedicated to its spirit

VOLCANOES $2000: This volcano near Mexico City started venting again in 2013

TEACHING THE TEACHERS $2000: In 1904 this thinker said teaching was shamefully the last vocation "to recognize the need of... professional preparation"

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
Patrick: $19,200
Mary Beth: $15,200
Kati: $4,400

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
HISTORIC OBJECTS

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
Three-quarters for first place. Shore's Conjecture.
Patrick: Wager $11,201 to cover Mary Beth. Or, you could try out a Shoretegic bet of $2,401.
Mary Beth: You'll want to wager between $4,001 (venusian) and $6,399 (martian), and you'll win the game if Patrick wagers enough and gets it wrong.
Kati: You can't really win on a Triple Stumper, so your best hope is if you're the only one to get Final right. Wager everything but a few dollars.

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
In 1802, 3 years after it was discovered, it was moved to London under the terms of the surrender of Alexandria

FINAL SCORES
Kati: $4,400 - $4,001 = $399 (What is King Tut's tomb??) (3rd place)
Mary Beth: $15,200 + $4,800 = $20,000 (What is the Rosetta Stone?) (2nd place)
Patrick: $19,200 + $7,502 = $26,702 (What is the Rosetta Stone?) (Automatic semifinalist)
(Alex: And if you're tall enough to see over the crowds, you can spot it in the British Museum.)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $8,200

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
Patrick: $18,800, 22 R (including 1 DD), 1 W
Mary Beth: $15,800, 23 R (including 1 DD), 4 W (including 1 DD)
Kati: $4,400, 8 R, 1 W
Combined Coryat: $39,000

BATTING AVERAGES
Mary Beth: 24/60 = .400
Patrick: 23/59 = .390
Kati: 8/58 = .138
Team: 55/63 = .873

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
GOING EMILY POST‑AL $400: When a man & a woman are sharing one of these, the one who holds it is the one who's taller
(Alex: Yeah, makes sense, too.)

THAT'S TOTALLY HISTORICAL! $600: In the 20s B.C., after Octavian took this imperial name, he established the Praetorian Guard to guard his body
(Patrick Dillon's class at Munsey Park Elementary School: Good luck, Mr. Dillon, on the Jeopardy! Teachers Tournament.)
[Cheers and applause]

8-LETTER WORDS $600: (Kelly of the Clue Crew shows us a video of a pool table.) The ability to give a cue ball this particular type of english reverses its forward momentum to set it up for the next shot

THE RACE IS TO THE STRONG $200: Endurance is key at the Iron Man World Championship in Kona, a 2.4 mile swim, 112 mile bike race & a marathon of this many miles

THE RACE IS TO THE STRONG $800: The 2013 Race Across America started cyclists in Oceanside, Calif. & had them pedal to this state capital on Chesapeake Bay
(Mary Beth: What is Baltimore?)

VOLCANOES $1200: This volcano on Hawaii's Big Island means "spewing" in the local language & it's been spewing continuously since 1983
(Patrick: What is Mauna Loa?)

CROSSWORD CLUES "F" $1600: Happening once every 2 weeks
(11)
(Kati: What is fortnight?... Fortnights?)

CORRECT RESPONSES
sixteen
A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court
a billion
James Earl Ray
Charybdis
"Tear down this wall"
Bali
Popocatépetl
John Dewey
the Rosetta Stone
an umbrella
Caesar Augustus
backspin
26.2
Annapolis
Kilauea
fortnightly

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Re: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by jeff6286 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:03 pm

Historic Objects
In 1802, 3 years after it was discovered, it was moved to London under the terms of the surrender of Alexandria.

SpoilerShow
What is the Rosetta Stone? Kati said King Tut's Tomb.

Patrick Dillon: $19,200+$7,502=$26,702...Automatic Semi-Finalist
Mary Beth Hammerstrom: $15,200+$4,800=$20,000
Kati Sorenson: $4,400-$4,001=$399
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Post by skullturf » Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:31 pm

I got "pamphlet" without previously knowing its etymology. That was a nice clue.

I got "Charybdis" because of a song by The Police.

During the commercial break, I tried to precall FJ. The first object I thought of was the Rosetta Stone. I also considered the Shroud of Turin. So FJ was pretty much an instaget for me. It wasn't just the mention of Egypt, but I happened to know it was discovered right around 1799 or 1800 -- dates that are round numbers tend to stick with me. (George Washington died in 1799, Friedrich Nietzsche and Oscar Wilde died in 1900, Queen Victoria died in 1901.)

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Post by legendneverdies » Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:54 pm

WIlliam Christopher of MASH fame used Charybdis as a clue for WHirlpool in the Cashword on Super Password in 1987, and no one but him seemed to know what it meant.

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:12 pm

Terrible J! round with only 7/30.

NHO any of those characters in novels for $200. I almost WAGged Dracula. Got only Grapes of Wrath, and knew Cuckoo's Nest but couldn't pull it out.

Saw no way to get $400 or $600 in Emily Post. Couldn't think of anything that a man and woman could "hold" together, and saw no possible way to figure out "madam" on $600. How would I know it's Madam for a president and not Ms., Mrs., or any other title for a woman?

0/5 in Historical and 8 Letter, but I clammed on three in the latter (emigrate, sorority, and pamphlet). Rare for me to whiff a word category.

Proud of remembering Atacama, which I had NHO before it came up in a clue a few months prior, to go 3/5 in Race. (Clammed on Death Valley, no clue on $1000.)

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What was supposed to lead to NZ on Volcano for $400? I went 0/5 there, but I did pull a Skippy Squirrel and say "Speeeeeeew!" on $1200, and "The Popocatépetl is not in Canada, rather in Mexico, Mexico, Mexico" after the TS on $2000.

0/5 in Teachers too. Did it sound like Alex fluffed the clue? His read of "In 1904…" sounded weird.

4/5 in Crossword Clues. I somehow heard "8" instead of "5" on $400 and said "frisking" instead of "frisk".

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Blah blah blah discovered blah blah Alexandria. Rosetta Stone? Sure.
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Post by ElendilPickle » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:55 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:What was supposed to lead to NZ on Volcano for $400?
The color of the pools and Mount Tongariro.

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Post by geolawyerman » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:56 pm

ElendilPickle wrote:
TenPoundHammer wrote:What was supposed to lead to NZ on Volcano for $400?
The color of the pools and Mount Tongariro.
North Island.
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Post by dhkendall » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:18 pm

In "Historical" $400: is "What is the Washington March" acceptable enough? (Given was "The March on Washington")
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Post by BigDaddyJ » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:53 pm

geolawyerman wrote:North Island.
That's what did it for me. Country + "North Island" (or "South Island") is Pavlov for NZ.

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Post by lisa0012 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:07 pm

Can anyone explain these wagers? Anyone? :?:

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Post by bpmod » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:11 pm

lisa0012 wrote:Can anyone explain these wagers? Anyone? :?:
No. Probably no-one.

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Post by geolawyerman » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:20 pm

Wild cards?????????????????
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Post by MarkBarrett » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:52 pm

lisa0012 wrote:Can anyone explain these wagers? Anyone? :?:

Patrick Dillon: $19,200+$7,502=$26,702...Automatic Semi-Finalist
Mary Beth Hammerstrom: $15,200+$4,800=$20,000
Kati Sorenson: $4,400-$4,001=$399

Kati had a goal of 8400 for a wildcard and went for a buck better.

Mary Beth went for a pretty number thinking positive she would get it right.

Patrick thought Mary Beth would bet her 10800 lead over Kati to take her to 26000. He rounded up to 26702 for protection in case she bet more?

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Another Rosetta Stone precall here with the clue leaving no doubt. King Tut's Tomb? Wow. I figured Mary Beth would do well since the teacher/lawyer combo sounded promising.

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:58 pm

BigDaddyJ wrote:
geolawyerman wrote:North Island.
That's what did it for me. Country + "North Island" (or "South Island") is Pavlov for NZ.
Wow, I must not have been looking at the maps too closely. I always thought NZ was only one island.
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lisa0012 wrote:Can anyone explain these wagers? Anyone? :?:
I can explain it, THEY SUCKED. Satisfied? :D

I think Mary Beth was close to good, wagering $4001 to move her ahead of a $0 bet from the leader would have been the play IMO.

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Post by ElendilPickle » Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:17 am

BigDaddyJ wrote:
geolawyerman wrote:North Island.
That's what did it for me. Country + "North Island" (or "South Island") is Pavlov for NZ.
That's true. For me, it's the combination of Lord of the Rings geekery and dh and I deciding at the last minute not to attempt the Tongariro Crossing, since we weren't prepared for bad weather.

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Post by This Is Kirk! » Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:54 am

Well, hell, Cleopatra's Needle came into my mind immediately and I stuck with it. In retrospect it obviously wasn't "discovered" just a few years before 1802 (though I guess it could have been buried in the sand). I thought the Rosetta Stone was discovered a little later--in the Victorian era.

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Post by Volante » Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:09 am

Golf wrote:
lisa0012 wrote:Can anyone explain these wagers? Anyone? :?:
I can explain it, THEY SUCKED. Satisfied? :D

I think Mary Beth was close to good, wagering $4001 to move her ahead of a $0 bet from the leader would have been the play IMO.
Ahh, hindsight...

Ya'll gonna look silly when the cutoff ends up being over 20k! :lol:

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Post by kickerofelves » Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:24 am

TenPoundHammer wrote:Saw no way to get $400 or $600 in Emily Post. Couldn't think of anything that a man and woman could "hold" together, and saw no possible way to figure out "madam" on $600. How would I know it's Madam for a president and not Ms., Mrs., or any other title for a woman?
One of those things you Just Know. It also tends to be Madam + (any other formal title of address). Madam Secretary. Madam Speaker. Madam Chairperson. Whatever.
TenPoundHammer wrote:Proud of remembering Atacama, which I had NHO before it came up in a clue a few months prior, to go 3/5 in Race.
*fist bump* Yay learning!

I had a correct response on Atacama in one of my games, and it's come up like twice since, and always gives me a chuckle whenever it does.

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