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Friday, December 6, 2013 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:30 am

Game Recap for Show #6725, 2013-12-06

CONTESTANTS
Franke Santos, an operations manager from North Hollywood, California
Craig Cornish, Jr., a graduate student of history from Welcome, Maryland
Carlos Ross, a customer service representative from Austin, Texas (whose 3-day cash winnings total $89,774)

OPENING REMARKS
Thank you, Johnny Gilbert. Hi, folks. Welcome to our show.
Always lots of excitement on "Jeopardy!" on yesterday's program, a champion winning a lot of money and a marriage proposal in our audience that was accepted. I can promise you the possibility of only one of those two things occurring on our show today.
Carlos is the champ. Craig and Frankie are the challengers. Good luck.

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
"B" WHERE? (5/5) (Alex: Each correct response beginning with the letter "B".)
METALS (5/5)
YOU'VE GOT TASTE (4/5)
A FASHION STATEMENT (4/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
CHIPS (5/5)
THE GRAMMYS: BEST MALE POP VOCAL (4/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Carlos: 13 R (including 1 DD), 1 W
Craig: 10 R (including 1 rebound), 1 W
Franke: 4 R, 1 W

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 3
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $2,000



SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
Carlos: $4,000
Craig: $2,200
Franke: $2,000

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Alex: Franke Santos is an operations manager from Hollywood, California, who is also a craftsperson. You hand-make shoes.
Franke: I do.
Alex: That's never done nowadays!
Franke: It's very rarely done today.
Alex: And who do you make them for?
Franke: I usually make them for myself.
Alex: Good for you! And where did you learn to do this?
Franke: I actually learned it from a gentleman up in Port Townsend, Washington, who used to make the shoes for all the Ronald McDonalds.
Alex: For all the Ronald McDonalds? Well, that's a whole career just making one pair of shoes for Ronald McDonald because they're what --a size 40?
Franke: Something like that.
Alex: Something like that. Okay. Good for you.




Alex: Craig Cornish Jr. he is from Welcome, Maryland. Craig, as you know --you're a movie fan, right?
Craig: I am.
Alex: There are many different lists of movies --The 100 best, the AFI's list. But there's another list that's "1001 Movies You Should See Before You Die."
Craig: Yes.
Alex: And you have seen?
Craig: All 1,001.
Alex: Your favorite is?
Craig: A Matter Of Life And Death.
Alex: And who was in that one?
Craig: David Niven was the big star.
Alex: Oh, so, you're going back quite a few years.
Craig: Yep, 1944.
Alex: You're a classicist. Way to go.
Craig: I like to think so. Thank you.




Alex: Carlos Ross is our champion, ladies and gentlemen. He reviews a particular kind of entertainment, which is?
Carlos: Japanese animation --anime.
Alex: Anime. Now, cartoons, basically.
Carlos: Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah.
Alex: And how many have you reviewed so far, and for who do you do the reviewing?
Carlos: Well, I have reviewed somewhere around 400 different titles, and I've actually been running a site for the last 15 years on the internet.
Alex: On the internet. Okay, so it is popular, right?

JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Carlos found the Daily Double on the 27th clue. Carlos had $5,400, Craig had $3,000, and Franke was at $2,800. Carlos wagered $1,200.

A FASHION STATEMENT $800: An outer garment & a weapon combine to give us this phrase meaning dealing in espionage & intrigue

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
THE GRAMMYS: BEST MALE POP VOCAL $1000: "It Was A Very Good Year"
(1965)
(Alex: My musical hero, [*].)

YOU'VE GOT TASTE $400: I see your "pursuit of perfection" matches that of this car company... that RX 350 SUV is pretty sweet
(Carlos: What is Mazda?)
...
(Alex: What is [*]? They make that car.)

A FASHION STATEMENT $600: Swing & a short fly ball, looks like it'll drop--no, Trebek makes one of these catches just off the ground
(Carlos: What is a shoelace catch?)
...
(Alex: What is [*]--not a shoelace catch.)

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
Carlos: $7,600
Craig: $4,800
Franke: $2,800

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Post by Archivists » Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:30 am

DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
19th CENTURY NOTABLES (4/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
PARTS OF THE CITY (2/5, including 1 missed Daily Double)
MOVIE PEOPLE (5/5)
RUSSIAN PLAYWRIGHTS (4/5)
GREEK GOD OUT, ROMAN GOD IN (5/5)
TRIPLE H (3/3) (Alex: Three h's coming up in each correct response.)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Craig: 20 R, 3 W (including 1 DD)
Franke: 1 R, 1 W
Carlos: 2 R (including 1 DD), 3 W

Clues revealed: 28
Triple Stumpers: 4
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $5,200



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Carlos snagged the next Daily Double on the 20th clue. Carlos had $5,600, Craig had $18,400, and Franke was at $2,000. Carlos wagered $5,000.

19th CENTURY NOTABLES $2000: In 1890 this painter of the American west illustrated an edition of Longfellow's "Song of Hiawatha"

SECOND DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
It was Craig who snatched up the last Daily Double of the game on the 25th clue. Carlos had $10,600, Craig had $23,200, and Franke was at $2,000. Craig wagered $2,000.

PARTS OF THE CITY $1600: This Spanish word for "neighborhood" refers to a Latino enclave in a U.S. city
(Craig: Whew.)
(Alex: Craig?)
(Craig: Uh...)
[beep]
(Alex: Oh, it's not coming.)

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
RUSSIAN PLAYWRIGHTS $1200: The libretto for this composer's 1890 opera "The Queen of Spades" is by his playwright brother Modest
(Craig: Who is Mugorsky?)
(Carlos: Who is Mussorgsky?)

19th CENTURY NOTABLES $1600: Seen here,
he was the last president
born under British rule
(Craig: Who is Madison?)
(Carlos: Who is Andrew Jackson?)
(Franke: Who is John Tyler?)

PARTS OF THE CITY $400: Philadelphia & Jerusalem each have central areas called by this ancient name (Jerusalem's is the more ancient)

PARTS OF THE CITY $2000: You'll see men in suits looking up stock prices in the Melbourne or New Orleans CBD, short for this
(Carlos: What is commercial
business district?)

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
Craig: $22,000 (lock game)
Carlos: $8,600
Franke: $2,000

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
HISTORIC LETTERS

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
Lock for first place; lock for second place.
Craig: Wager between $0 (venusian) and $4,799 (martian), and enjoy your victory.
Carlos: Wager between $0 (venusian) and $4,599 (martian), and enjoy 2nd place.
Franke: You've no hope of catching up... unless Carlos does something stupid. So risk $1,999.

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
In April 1865 she wrote to Mary Todd Lincoln, "I cannot remain silent...brokenhearted by the loss of my own beloved husband"

FINAL SCORES
Franke: $2,000 - $0 = $2,000 (Who is) (2nd place: $2,000)
Carlos: $8,600 - $8,599 = $1 (Who was no idea) (3rd place: $1,000)
Craig: $22,000 - $3,000 = $19,000 (Who is Mrs. Stonewall) (New champion: $19,000)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $7,200

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
Craig: $24,000, 30 R, 4 W (including 1 DD)
Carlos: $5,200, 15 R (including 2 DDs), 4 W
Franke: $2,000, 5 R, 2 W
Combined Coryat: $31,200

BATTING AVERAGES
Craig: 30/59 = .508
Carlos: 15/60 = .250
Franke: 5/58 = .086
Team: 50/63 = .794

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
"B" WHERE? $200: This city is about 80 miles from New Orleans

"B" WHERE? $400: You might make a pilgrimage to this ancient town near Jerusalem

"B" WHERE? $600: Several national capitals are found along the Danube, which flows for 1770 miles before emptying into this body of water

"B" WHERE? $800: This city
was headquarters
of the opposition
that drove Gaddafi from power

"B" WHERE? $1000: This country links Niger to the Gulf of Guinea

METALS $400: Seen here, the 61-pound Hand of Faith, discovered in 1980, is now fittingly on display in this Las Vegas casino

CHIPS $200: Keebler's soft batch these are "so soft, they taste like they're home-baked!"
(Franke: What are cookies?)
(Alex: Be more specific.)
(Frankie: What are...)

CHIPS $600: After going 46-7 as Oregon's head football coach, he was named coach of the NFL's Eagles in January 2013
(Alex: He's the man!)

YOU'VE GOT TASTE $800: Your choice of the 1725 music of this Italian was perfect for your party in the spring

MOVIE PEOPLE $800: Masked villain in "The Dark Knight Rises"
(Craig gave his response imitating the character.)
[Laughter]
(Alex: You didn't
have to act it out.)
(Craig: I wanted to, though.)
(Alex: But I appreciate it. Go again.)
(Craig: You're welcome.)

MOVIE PEOPLE $2000: Samuel L. Jackson has played this agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.
(Alex: You've spent a lot of time at the movies.)
[applause]

CORRECT RESPONSES
cloak & dagger
Frank Sinatra
Lexus
a shoestring catch
Frederic Remington
barrio
Peter Ilyich Tchaikovsky
William Henry Harrison
old city
central business district
Queen Victoria
Baton Rouge
Bethlehem
the Black Sea
Benghazi
Benin
the Golden Nugget
chocolate chip cookies
Chip Kelly
(Antonio) Vivaldi
Bane
Nick Fury

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Re: Friday, December 6, 2013 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by jeff6286 » Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:38 pm

Historic Letters
In April 1865 she wrote to Mary Lincoln, "I cannot remain silent...brokenhearted by the loss of my own beloved husband".

Spoiler
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Who is Queen Victoria? Franke and Carlos had no guess; Craig was writing, it looked like, Mrs. Stonewall Jackson, but crossed it out.

Craig Cornish, Jr.: $22,000-$3,000=$19,000
Carlos Ross: $8,600-$8,599=$1
Franke Santos: $2,000-$0=$2,000
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Post by TenPoundHammer » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:27 pm

Really patchy J! board for me. I got all the $200s but was incredibly hit and miss elsewhere, missing some lower-valued clues but nabbing some higher ones. Some made sense after the fact, like seat of your pants, skirt the issue, and Black Sea (I negged with Baltic), but others were "huh?!", like the Sinatra song, Versace, Lexus, Rothschilds, Goodbye Mr. Chips, etc.

Russian Playwrights I had down as an 0/5 as soon as it came up. Also skunked Movie People and Greek/Roman.

Buffalo Bill or Bill Cody? Nah, I'm gonna pick the wrong one, so clam. Oh, they're the same person. Derp.

A rare Spanish miss for me on Parts of the City. I said "vecindario", as it was the only Spanish word for "neighborhood" that I ever learned. "Barrio" wasn't gonna come to me ever.

Parts of the City seemed upside-down. "Old city" IMO was tougher than red light district, fraternity, and central business district.

I know that we studied Greek gods in 6th grade, but every time they come up, I'm completely lost.

Overall, DJ! stomped me with only 4/28.

Not a guess on FJ!
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Re: Friday, December 6, 2013 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by econgator » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:30 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:"Old city" IMO was tougher than red light district, fraternity, and central business district.
Agreed. The phrasing suggested something else.
Not a guess on FJ!
Ditto. Not in a million years would I have gotten that.

Tough break today, Carlos (but Andrew Jackson? Really? ;) ). The movie category pretty much signaled the beginning of the end.

What was it you whispered after the end of DJ? Sounded like "Easy come, easy go."

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Post by Golf » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:38 pm

Not really sure what Carlos' FJ wager was supposed to accomplish. If you think the leader will offer a tie then by all means bet it all, (I'm actually one of the few that doesn't have a problem with that in a runaway situation) otherwise why even bother risking 2nd place and the extra 1k that goes with it?

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Post by econgator » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:40 pm

Golf wrote:Not really sure what Carlos' FJ wager was supposed to accomplish. If you think the leader will offer a tie then by all means bet it all, (I'm actually one of the few that doesn't have a problem with that in a runaway situation) otherwise why even bother risking 2nd place and the extra 1k that goes with it?
Nothing, really, but he's already got 90K, so .... meh.

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Post by Golf » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:53 pm

econgator wrote:Nothing, really, but he's already got 90K, so .... meh.
Sure, but that logic just gets under my skin. It's still 1k, and 1k is 1k regardless. Reminds me of those idiots on Millionaire that would say they came with nothing so no reason not to risk staggering sums on a total guess.

I guess I just always want to see the game played strategically perfect which in turn maximizes profit.

But Carlos had a very nice run, well done!

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Post by StevenH » Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:05 pm

That was one impressive performance on the buzzer by the guy who won, although he did have several impressive gets, too.

My guess on FJ was Ann Rutledge, who only came to mind because a FJ on her that was used in a game was once mentioned on the board as one of the toughest FJs of all time (it turns out that she died in the 1830s). I also considered wives of people who may have died or been assassinated around the same time that President Lincoln was assassinated, but I couldn't come up with anything there. I also would have never gotten this one; I just would have never known how to approach it without ever having heard that fact.

I have to wonder why Carlos left back $600 on the DD in this game but went all in on the one DD in his first game. He had the right idea both times, but in the first game he could have safely held back a few dollars just to be sure that he could play in FJ. In this game he was in a position where he needed every dollar he could get, so he should have gone all in. It ended up not mattering, but I can't help but wonder what made him decide on the two wagers.

The new champion overwagered on that last DD. He should have made a Madden wager there.

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Post by Paucle » Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:11 pm

GREAT first interview! And the movies one wasn't bad.
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Post by miwasatoshi » Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:11 pm

By this point I was so crashed out mentally that I was no longer thinking entirely straight. I couldn't tell you what I was thinking. I still don't really know. :mrgreen:

Doesn't matter, was fun anyway!
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Post by NoName84 » Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:20 pm

I thought John Wilkes Booth may have been married at the time, so I went with Mrs. Booth.

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Post by Paucle » Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:23 pm

NoName84 wrote:I thought John Wilkes Booth may have been married at the time, so I went with Mrs. Booth.
Yes, and in the letter, she asked that famous question, "Besides that, how'd you like the play?"

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Post by billy pilgrim » Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:24 pm

i'm guessing this FJ! will be high on the ''most difficult' poll It was guessable but only if you start with the idea that it was the wife who was notable not the husband or his manner of death.
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Post by Leander » Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:31 pm

A little lateral thinking took me to Queen Victoria as the most likely answer pretty quickly, although I was not sure of the date of Albert's death.

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Post by alietr » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:03 pm

NoName84 wrote:I thought John Wilkes Booth may have been married at the time, so I went with Mrs. Booth.
Same here. Hey, he died pretty much at the same time as Lincoln, and that's all could come up with.

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Post by Vermonter » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:07 pm

I got stuck on the domestic front. I had the same idea as Craig - Mrs. Stonewall Jackson - and couldn't come up with anything better. Didn't think of other famous mourners.

Not sure "historic" is the right term - I typically see that term as something notable to the public at large, or advancing society. "Historical" is probably better.

Great run, Carlos! Looking forward to seeing what Craig does, though.
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Post by El Jefe » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:33 pm

Vermonter wrote:I got stuck on the domestic front. I had the same idea as Craig - Mrs. Stonewall Jackson - and couldn't come up with anything better. Didn't think of other famous mourners.

Not sure "historic" is the right term - I typically see that term as something notable to the public at large, or advancing society. "Historical" is probably better.

Great run, Carlos! Looking forward to seeing what Craig does, though.
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Post by jeff6286 » Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:01 pm

I was wondering about the possibility of are a reversal when Carlos gave "Commercial Business District" instead of "Central Business District" on the last clue. There are plenty of google hits for his answer, if you put it in quotes, and likewise if you put Melbourne or New Orleans in front of it. Central definitely gets more hits, and seems to be the more common name, but I have no idea what type of authority would say which one is preferable. If Carlos is still around, can you say if there were any questions about that response in the pre-FJ break?

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:03 pm

^ What about that shoelace/shoestring question? I forget the exact term.
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