Friday, December 27, 2013 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

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Re: A lotta saps gathered in Culver City

Post by El Jefe » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:26 pm

dhkendall wrote:
Sage on the Hudson wrote:Take it from this native New Englander: what gatherers freeze in the snow and make into candy is not "maple syrup," it is maple sap.

The sap is later boiled down to turn it into syrup.

Yet another example of Jeopardy's writers fabricating clues off the tops of their heads.
Well, that explains why I was trying to fit "sap" into an "up" category.
To the woodshed with both of you!

The clue read: "A SWEET TRADITION IN VERMONT IS SUGAR ON SNOW, WHICH IS THIS LIQUID, HEATED AND DRIZZLED ON THE WHITE STUFF." I think you both are just unfamiliar with the 'Sugar on Snow' events. Hakuna.

Vermonter can back me up on this this; we most assuredly do not gather by the dozens to drizzle f'ing SAP on snow!

P.S. Please explain to me how 'sap is frozen into candy' [sic] - I'm intrigued!

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Re: A lotta saps gathered in Culver City

Post by Volante » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:32 pm

El Jefe wrote:
dhkendall wrote:
Sage on the Hudson wrote:Take it from this native New Englander: what gatherers freeze in the snow and make into candy is not "maple syrup," it is maple sap.

The sap is later boiled down to turn it into syrup.

Yet another example of Jeopardy's writers fabricating clues off the tops of their heads.
Well, that explains why I was trying to fit "sap" into an "up" category.
To the woodshed with both of you!

The clue read: "A SWEET TRADITION IN VERMONT IS SUGAR ON SNOW, WHICH IS THIS LIQUID, HEATED AND DRIZZLED ON THE WHITE STUFF." I think you both are just unfamiliar with the 'Sugar on Snow' events. Hakuna.

Vermonter can back me up on this this; we most assuredly do not gather by the dozens to drizzle f'ing SAP on snow!

P.S. Please explain to me how 'sap is frozen into candy' [sic] - I'm intrigued!

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Re: A lotta saps gathered in Culver City

Post by Vermonter » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:28 pm

El Jefe wrote:
dhkendall wrote:
Sage on the Hudson wrote:Take it from this native New Englander: what gatherers freeze in the snow and make into candy is not "maple syrup," it is maple sap.

The sap is later boiled down to turn it into syrup.

Yet another example of Jeopardy's writers fabricating clues off the tops of their heads.
Well, that explains why I was trying to fit "sap" into an "up" category.
To the woodshed with both of you!

The clue read: "A SWEET TRADITION IN VERMONT IS SUGAR ON SNOW, WHICH IS THIS LIQUID, HEATED AND DRIZZLED ON THE WHITE STUFF." I think you both are just unfamiliar with the 'Sugar on Snow' events. Hakuna.

Vermonter can back me up on this this; we most assuredly do not gather by the dozens to drizzle f'ing SAP on snow!

P.S. Please explain to me how 'sap is frozen into candy' [sic] - I'm intrigued!

Jeffrey
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Re: Friday, December 27, 2013 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by opusthepenguin » Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:19 am

nserven wrote:I said Katherine instead of Katherina. But the Folger Shakespeare Library shows Katherine. And on the other end, so does Cliffs Notes. I assume both are acceptable.
Definitely. She's called both in the play, interchangeably, sometimes by the same speaker in the same speech. The third acceptable response, which I made, is Kate. She's called that at least as often as she's called Katherine and Katherina combined.

EDIT: Shoulda red ahed. Davey's posted stats contradict my vague impression. (But who're you gonna believe? Come on! It's me. Opus!) Still, she's called Kate more than either Katherine or Katherina.

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Re: Friday, December 27, 2013 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by opusthepenguin » Tue Dec 31, 2013 11:17 am

dhkendall wrote:If both Clarence and Richard are correct answers, then they should both get credit if that situation arises, right? (I always imagine that the other person's money comes from the writer's paycheque who was responsible for not pinning down the question to one answer. :) )
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SEASONS 34 - 35 (AKA "THE DARK YEARS")

Following Trebek's departure at the end of Season 33, fellow Canadian Dave Kendall somewhat improbably became the new host. The change was not well received.[136] Fans described Kendall's voice as "like Gilbert Gottfried arguing with a cat in heat while scratching a chalkboard." [citation needed] His detractors were not so kind. The new host quickly demonstrated his penchant for groan-worthy puns. He attempted to steer every contestant interview toward the subject of flags and/or anthems. Example:
  • DAVE: Our next contestant, Clarence, hails from Mississippi, the only state whose flag still displays the saltire of the Confederate battle flag. What are your thoughts on that, Clarence?

    CLARENCE: Um ... I ... did you say "saltire"?

    DAVE: Yes. In heraldic terms, that refers to an ordinary formed by the crossing of a bend and a bend sinister. I guess we need more of these sorts of questions on our qualifying test.

    CLARENCE: I don't want to tell you how to do your job, but I felt 20 such questions on a 50-question test was maybe too much already.

    THE 9 PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE: nervous laughter [137]
But perhaps the most disruptive change came in the form of Kendall's Rule. Kendall's Rule addressed the problem of contestants giving responses that were technically correct but not listed as acceptable on Dave's notes. Such responses resulted in an initial ruling that they were incorrect, allowing another contestant to ring in with the expected response and collect the dollar value of the clue. Later in the game, after review by the judges, the host would have to reverse the initial ruling. The contestant who had been ruled incorrect would then also be awarded the dollar value of the clue. The second contestant retained the points gained as a result of the initial incorrect ruling. When this happened, Kendall's Rule dictated that the clue's dollar value would be deducted from the "paycheque" [sic] of the clue's writer.

Kendall's Rule quickly lead[hi TPH!] to long and oddly specific clues. The size of the display monitors increased while the display font shrunk.[138] This eventually resulted in the infamous Jeopardy! Riot of Wednesday, May 15, 2019. On that date, during the taping of Season 35's final game, enraged audience members rushed the stage and forcibly evicted Kendall from Sony Pictures Studios. They were joined in this endeavor by the three contestants and several impoverished clue writers.[139] This ejection occurred in response to the $3600 clue in CROSSWORD CLUES "G" which red[hi TPH!] as follows: WALLACE MIGHT BE ABLE TO TELL YOU THAT, ACCORDING TO DEFINITION 1A IN THE AMERICAN HERITAGE DICTIONARY OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE (5TH ED., COPYR. 2012, UPDATED 2016, ISBN 978-0553583229) THIS IS A REINFORCED EYELET, AS IN CLOTH OR LEATHER, THROUGH WHICH A FASTENER MAY BE PASSED. [140] An audience member who participated in the riot later offered this recollection: "When Dave said 'open parentheses,' I think we all sort of just lost it."[141]

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Re: Friday, December 27, 2013 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by alietr » Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:19 pm

It's times like these where a like button would be really handy.

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Re: Friday, December 27, 2013 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by bpmod » Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:04 pm

alietr wrote:It's times like these where a like "masterpiece" button would be really handy.
There. Fixed that for ya!

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Re: Friday, December 27, 2013 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by dhkendall » Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:22 pm

Well, had I known I'd have been roasted today, I would have worn pants.

(Seriously, Opus, I have given roasts and been roasted several times through Toastmasters (in fact the most recent time I was roasted was our last meeting before Christmas break) and I must admit that was probably one of the best, if not the best, one I've seen. Bravo.)
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Re: Friday, December 27, 2013 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Bamaman » Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:27 pm

Brilliant, Opus.
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Re: Friday, December 27, 2013 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by bomtr » Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:02 pm

Opus, I'm not much of a liker, but right now--love ya. That is one huge penguin nugget.

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Re: Friday, December 27, 2013 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by opusthepenguin » Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:08 pm

dhkendall wrote:Well, had I known I'd have been roasted today, I would have worn pants.

(Seriously, Opus, I have given roasts and been roasted several times through Toastmasters (in fact the most recent time I was roasted was our last meeting before Christmas break) and I must admit that was probably one of the best, if not the best, one I've seen. Bravo.)
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Re: Friday, December 27, 2013 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by jkbrat » Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:15 pm

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Re: Friday, December 27, 2013 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by jeff6286 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:29 pm

opusthepenguin wrote:"When Dave said 'open parentheses,' I think we all sort of just lost it."[141]
My understanding was that the real source of the riot wasn't that Dave said "open parentheses", but that he forgot to close the parentheses for roughly the 137th time that season, and the audience just couldn't take it anymore.

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Re: Friday, December 27, 2013 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by TomKBaltimoreBoy » Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:01 pm

Between smoked sage and Kendall roasted on a open fire -- by a pantsless penguin, no less! -- the aromas are overpowering on this thread...
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Re: Friday, December 27, 2013 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by TenPoundHammer » Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:41 pm

TomKBaltimoreBoy wrote:Between smoked sage and Kendall roasted on a open fire -- by a pantsless penguin, no less! -- the aromas are overpowering on this thread...
Hey now. Whoever smelt it, dealt it.
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Re: Friday, December 27, 2013 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by georgespelvin » Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:54 am

I'm just getting around to this game and I am shocked that no one yet has commented on the $1000 clue in Acronyms. The acronym for the Committee to Re-Elect the President was CRP, not CREEP. CREEP was the way that Nixon's political opponents and journalists spelled it and many people pronounced it, however just because an acronym is pronounced a certain way doesn't mean that the acronym itself is phonetic.

Or am I the only one old enough here to know this.

I said Katherine for Bianca's sister and thought that Kate would also be acceptable. To make matters a little grayer though, at least for subjectively for fun, I think that most (if not all of the times) she is called Kate is when Petruchio is belittling her as shortened names were certainly not acceptable in those days (just try calling Richard III "Dick" to his face, go ahead, try it).
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Re: Friday, December 27, 2013 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by econgator » Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:16 am

georgespelvin wrote:I'm just getting around to this game and I am shocked that no one yet has commented on the $1000 clue in Acronyms. The acronym for the Committee to Re-Elect the President was CRP, not CREEP. CREEP was the way that Nixon's political opponents and journalists spelled it and many people pronounced it, however just because an acronym is pronounced a certain way doesn't mean that the acronym itself is phonetic.

Or am I the only one old enough here to know this.
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Re: Friday, December 27, 2013 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by georgespelvin » Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:20 am

Except that CRP is the acronym and CREEP is not an acronym. CREEP uses three letters from one word (Re-elect) sandwiched around the first letter of "Committee" and "President". Are there other acronyms in which more than one letter from a word is used as part of the acronym (this is a serious question, I can't think of any at the moment).
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Post by silverscreentest » Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:32 am

georgespelvin wrote:Except that CRP is the acronym and CREEP is not an acronym. CREEP uses three letters from one word (Re-elect) sandwiched around the first letter of "Committee" and "President". Are there other acronyms in which more than one letter from a word is used as part of the acronym (this is a serious question, I can't think of any at the moment).
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Re: Friday, December 27, 2013 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by davey » Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:01 pm

georgespelvin wrote:I'm just getting around to this game and I am shocked that no one yet has commented on the $1000 clue in Acronyms. The acronym for the Committee to Re-Elect the President was CRP, not CREEP. CREEP was the way that Nixon's political opponents and journalists spelled it and many people pronounced it, however just because an acronym is pronounced a certain way doesn't mean that the acronym itself is phonetic.

Or am I the only one old enough here to know this.

I said Katherine for Bianca's sister and thought that Kate would also be acceptable. To make matters a little grayer though, at least for subjectively for fun, I think that most (if not all of the times) she is called Kate is when Petruchio is belittling her as shortened names were certainly not acceptable in those days (just try calling Richard III "Dick" to his face, go ahead, try it).
On Kate-
You can go to the Shakespeare concordance I linked earlier in the thread to test your theory, but when he asks for her kiss, Petruchio is surely not belittling her.

On CREEP-
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