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Wednesday, January 8, 2014 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:30 am

Game Recap for Show #6748, 2014-01-08

CONTESTANTS
Julia Dye, a vice president of production from North Hills, California
Dinu Nesan, a postdoctoral fellow and university lecturer from Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Andrew Nelson, an antiquarian bookseller from New Bedford, Massachusetts (whose 1-day cash winnings total $12,000)

OPENING REMARKS
Alex: Thank you, Johnny. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard. We've had some very exciting games in the last few weeks. And so far this week, on each day, we've had a new champion --Andrew, case in point. Dinu and Julia, will the trend hold up? It's up to you guys. Let's go to work. Here comes the Jeopardy! Round. And now these are the categories...

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
MASCOTS (4/5)
ADJECTIVAL COUNTRY NAMES (5/5)
PLAYING LINCOLN (3/5)
FICTIONAL WITCHES (5/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
I'M JUST WILD ABOUT "ARRY" (4/5)
LOOK! UP IN THE SKY! IT'S... (4/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Dinu: 10 R, 0 W
Julia: 10 R (including 1 rebound and 1 DD), 1 W
Andrew: 5 R, 1 W

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 5
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $4,600



SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
Dinu: $3,800
Julia: $1,200
Andrew: $400

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Alex: The first player we introduced on our program today, Julia Dye, has a PhD in a subject that I have never heard about. The word is hoplology?

Julia: Mm-hmm. Hoplology.

Alex: What is that?

Julia: Well, it's from the Greek word "hoplite," for "warrior."

Alex: Oh, not Hopalong Cassidy?

Julia: No, I would say the study of beer is another thing I often see, too, but it's actually a look at why cultures go to combat and why they fight, what happens to a country when it goes to war, what happens to a culture if they choose not to go to war.

Alex: And why do we go to war, usually? Economics, religion?

Julia: Overpopulation.

Alex: Overpopulation in that area?

Julia: If we're gonna be brief about it.

Alex: Yeah? Overpopulation? Okay, nice to know.




Alex: Dinu Nesan, from Toronto, has a tattoo on his leg, and that tattoo is?

Dinu: Yeah, I'm a research scientist, but this might still be the nerdiest and maybe most romantic thing I've ever done. It's my wife, Nicki's, name spelled out in the ring diagrams for chemical elements --nitrogen, iodine, carbon, potassium, iodine. It was painful.

[Laughter]

Alex: I bet it was. Love --the things we men will do for love.




Alex: Andrew Nelson is our champion. He's from Massachusetts. When people in Massachusetts are not talking about the Red Sox, the Celtics, or the Bruins, they talk politics. And you have an interesting political collection. I want to hear about it.

Andrew: I have the largest known collection of political buttons from Massachusetts candidates, as well as ribbons, bumper stickers, leaflets, anything you can think of.

Alex: Going back how far? What's the earliest?

Andrew: Going back to about 1896.

Alex: 1890s. Wow. Is it valuable?

Andrew: Some of it.

Alex: Some.

Andrew: My wife would say no, none of it.

Alex: Oh. Your wife considers it junk?

Andrew: I'd say probably.

Alex: Or stuff?

Andrew: Stuff, I think, more.

Alex: It's a guy's stuff.

JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Julia found the Daily Double on the 26th clue. Andrew had $1,200, Dinu had $5,800, and Julia was at $2,600. Julia wagered $1,000.

FICTIONAL WITCHES $800: In "The Thirteenth Sacrifice", witches have returned to this city & Boston cop Samantha Ryan is hunting them
(Alex: [*] is right. Less than a minute now.)

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
LOOK! UP IN THE SKY! IT'S... $800: This constellation, the "Chained Maiden"

MASCOTS $1000: A Berkeley blog likened Stanford's unofficial mascot, one of these, to a "constipated squid struggling with dinner"

I'M JUST WILD ABOUT "ARRY" $1000: It's a Scottish cap with straight sides

PLAYING LINCOLN $800: Walter Huston played Lincoln in a 1930 film, this director's first talkie
(Julia: Who is Howard Hughes?)

PLAYING LINCOLN $1000: This tall "Moby Dick" actor played Lincoln in the 1980s TV miniseries "The Blue & the Gray"
(Alex: He starred as Captain Ahab -- [*].)

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
Dinu: $5,800
Julia: $3,800
Andrew: $2,600

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DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
MAINE STAYS (5/5, including 1 correct Daily Double) (Alex: Notice the spelling there...)
IN THE FUNNY PAPERS (3/5)
THE ORIGINAL T-PAINE (3/4, including 1 correct Daily Double)
FROM "G" TO "G" (4/5)
BIBLICAL FATHERS & SONS (3/4)
BRINGING UP BABY (4/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Julia: 7 R, 1 W
Dinu: 6 R (including 2 rebounds and 1 DD), 0 W
Andrew: 9 R (including 1 DD), 4 W

Clues revealed: 28
Triple Stumpers: 6
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $10,400



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Andrew snagged the next Daily Double on the 4th clue. Andrew had $5,000, Dinu had $5,800, and Julia was at $3,800. Andrew wagered $2,000.

MAINE STAYS $1600: This historian went to Colby College in Waterville; she later met & married Richard Goodwin, adviser to JFK & LBJ

SECOND DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
It was Dinu who snatched up the last Daily Double of the game on the 28th clue. Andrew had $9,000, Dinu had $9,800, and Julia was at $8,200. Dinu wagered $100.

THE ORIGINAL T-PAINE $1600: Paine was elected to France's Natl. Convention in 1792 but was imprisoned in 1793 after opposing this king's execution
[The end-of-round signal sounds.]

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
FROM "G" TO "G" $2000: The turbulent ending of a regime or institution, it's German for "twilight of the gods"
(Julia: What is Goetterammedung --
(Alex: No.)
(Julia: -- [*]?)
(Alex: No.)
...
(Alex: We ruled on you on the first response -- sorry -- even though you corrected yourself.)

BRINGING UP BABY $2000: We know baby has good lungs when he has the infant type of this, from the name of another internal organ
(Alex: When he has infant [*] and is really, really upset.)

IN THE FUNNY PAPERS $1600: This man says his famous feline is a composite of all the cats from his childhood rolled into one feisty orange fur ball
(Andrew: Who is Jim Henson?)

IN THE FUNNY PAPERS $2000: Earl the dog & Mooch the cat are featured in this strip

BIBLICAL FATHERS & SONS $1600: Reuben was the only one of this man's sons to object to killing Joseph, whom he suggested tossing into a pit

THE ORIGINAL T-PAINE $1200: Paine noted, "when authors and critics talk of the sublime, they see not how nearly it borders on the" this
(Andrew: What is the absurd?)

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
Dinu: $9,900
Andrew: $9,000
Julia: $8,200

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
2013 OBITUARIES

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
Four-fifths for first place. Stratton's Dilemma.
Dinu: Wager $8,101 to cover Andrew.
Andrew: You ought to wager to cover Julia, but since you cannot win on a Triple Stumper if you do so, you ought to choose between wagering $0 or maximizing your winnings with a bet of all $9,000. You are in Stratton's Dilemma, calling for a wager of more than $7,400 (to shut out Julia) or less than $7,200 (risking the possibility of being passed from behind by Julia). Go with the smaller bet if you believe a Triple Stumper is more likely than a singleton miss by Dinu.
Julia: You ought to try wagering between $801 and $6,400. This will top a $0 wager by Andrew while still beating Dinu and Andrew on the Triple Stumper (should Dinu wager to cover Andrew's doubled score and Andrew wager to cover your doubled score).

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
She was called a "savior", a "heartless tyrant", a "trailblazer", "intimidating" & a "real toughie"

FINAL SCORES
Julia: $8,200 + $1,701 = $9,901 (Who was Margaret Thatcher) (2nd place: $2,000)
Andrew: $9,000 - $7,401 = $1,599 (Who is ?) (3rd place: $1,000)
Dinu: $9,900 + $8,101 = $18,001 (Who is Thatcher) (New champion: $18,001)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $15,000

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
Dinu: $11,400, 16 R (including 1 DD), 0 W
Andrew: $8,600, 14 R (including 1 DD), 5 W
Julia: $8,000, 17 R (including 1 DD), 2 W
Combined Coryat: $28,000

BATTING AVERAGES
Julia: 18/59 = .305
Dinu: 17/59 = .288
Andrew: 14/59 = .237
Team: 49/63 = .778

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
MASCOTS $200: (Kelly of the Clue Crew stands with a college mascot.) In 1914, a columnist wrote that this Southwestern college team showed the fight of wildcats, hence the team's name &, since 1959, Wilbur the Mascot

LOOK! UP IN THE SKY! IT'S... $200: It's this dazzling phenomenon as seen from Alaska

LOOK! UP IN THE SKY! IT'S... $600: It's a flock of these birds in motion--they're like little stars of the sky

ADJECTIVAL COUNTRY NAMES $600: Caribbean country bearing the name of an order of Catholic priests
(Andrew: What is St. Vincent?)

MAINE STAYS $400: "41" is HBO's documentary about him & his life in Kennebunkport, his "anchor to windward"
(Andrew: Who is George Bush?)
(Alex: Be more specific.)

MAINE STAYS $2000: This artist immortalized Prouts Neck, the Maine village that became his home in the 1880s
[Applause for Andrew's run of the category.]

BIBLICAL FATHERS & SONS $400: Upon his death at age 175, he was buried by his sons Isaac & Ishmael in the cave of Machpelah
(Andrew: Who is Methuselah?)

IN THE FUNNY PAPERS $400: He's the gifted "Peanuts"
character seen here
(Andrew: Who is Linus?)

BIBLICAL FATHERS & SONS $1200: For doubting God's word, Zechariah, father of this forerunner of Christ, lost his voice until after his son was born
(Alex: Yes, with less than a minute to go.)

CORRECT RESPONSES
Salem
Andromeda
a tree
a glengarry cap
D.W. Griffith
Gregory Peck
Doris Kearns Goodwin
Louis XVI
Goetterdaemmerung
colic
Jim Davis
Mutts
Jacob
the ridiculous
Margaret Thatcher
Arizona
the Northern Lights
starlings
Dominican Republic
George H.W. Bush
Winslow Homer
Abraham
Schroeder
John the Baptist

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Re: Wednesday, January 8, 2014 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by jeff6286 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:38 pm

2013 Obituaries
She was called a "savior", a "heartless tyrant", a "trailblazer", "intimidating" & a "real toughie".


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Who is Margaret Thatcher? Andrew had no guess.

Dinu Nesan: $9,900+$8,101=$18,001...now a 1-day champion with $18,001
Andrew Nelson: $9,000-$7,401=$1,599
Julia Dye: $8,200+$1,701=$9,901
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Post by Bamaman » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:08 pm

Well, I guess we won't have a huge debate over FJ wagers tonight. The top two players both made the MSB and third bet to cover zero bets by both (hey, it could happen) but stayed way above the others MSBIW scores.

Some bad misses by Andrew. Methusalah when told the guy died at 175? Linus at the piano? Jim Henson drawing a comic strip cat?

What about the new champ's late DD wager? The scores were $9,800/$9,000/$8,200. The time warning had long been given and there were two $2,000 clues left. He bet $100 to protect his lead. I don't blame him for not wanting to risk his lead, but I'd have bet $600 in order to guard against the chance there would be one more clue played and Julia could pass me. It turned out to be a horrible clue. Highly overvalued and not related to the category subject at all. Yes, it did mention Paine, but you could have never heard of Paine before and gotten it right.

If Julia had pronounced that German word right the first time, I wonder what his bet would have been? That would have put her in the lead with $12,200/$9,800/$9,000 (assuming nothing else changed).

On FJ, my first thought was Helen Thomas, but the bit about tyrant and savior didn't make sense, so I switched the Lady Thatcher and was home free.

That music you hear is the carousel of champions spinning around, I think it will continue to turn tomorrow.

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:28 pm

I thought the Harry Potter clue (Witches for $200) was a bit tough.

Glengarry was my only miss in Arry.

NHO starlings.

Narnia was my only get in Witch, and Dey-Lewis my only get in Lincoln.

Could've done better in Adjectival Countries, but my mind didn't process "south" or "new" as adjectives somehow, and I just plain didn't know Dominican Republic. For some reason, the Caribbean is krpytonite to my mind.

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That $2000 clue in G to G was just mean. Such an easy word to trip up on.

Baby for $1200 could've been literally any letter vitamin.

Colic comes from the name of another body part?! I actually had that in mind, but clammed since it didn't sound remotely like a body part to me.

Jim Davis a TS?! Wow. I predicted a run in Funny Papers and was not let down.

0/4 in both Paine and Biblical Fathers.

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No guess on FJ! I didn't know Thatcher had even died.
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Post by Bamaman » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:33 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:

Baby for $1200 could've been literally any letter vitamin.
The clue mentioned calcium, that's what gave me D.

Fictional witches? Glad they narrowed it down so I can eliminate all the real witches from possibly coming up.

My only miss in comic strips was Mutts.

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Post by esrever » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:37 pm

Picked up Lach trash on "glengarry", "Jim Davis", and "the ridiculous"

Didn't get FJ.

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Post by Andromus » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:46 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:
NHO starlings.

In this case I'd say you're fortunate. They're a general pain in the butt. They tear through my area in large groups while migrating for the winter, clearing out bird feeders and making a huge mess.


FJ was an instaget. I had recently read one of those year end articles recapping notable obits, so I was ready for this and actually hoping for someone a little more obscure.

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Post by EndlessEntropy » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:56 pm

instaget FJ. She was an evil, divisive politician.
What’s Montague? It is nor hand, nor foot,
Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
Belonging to a man. O, be some other name!
What’s in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other word would smell as sweet.

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Post by StevenH » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:59 pm

I mostly liked this board, except for FJ. I got it after a few seconds, but without remembering specifically that Thatcher had died recently, it was a very vague clue.

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Post by nlw44 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:05 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:I thought the Harry Potter clue (Witches for $200) was a bit tough.

Glengarry was my only miss in Arry.

NHO starlings.

Narnia was my only get in Witch, and Dey-Lewis my only get in Lincoln.

Could've done better in Adjectival Countries, but my mind didn't process "south" or "new" as adjectives somehow, and I just plain didn't know Dominican Republic. For some reason, the Caribbean is krpytonite to my mind.

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That $2000 clue in G to G was just mean. Such an easy word to trip up on.

Baby for $1200 could've been literally any letter vitamin.

Colic comes from the name of another body part?! I actually had that in mind, but clammed since it didn't sound remotely like a body part to me.

Jim Davis a TS?! Wow. I predicted a run in Funny Papers and was not let down.

0/4 in both Paine and Biblical Fathers.

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No guess on FJ! I didn't know Thatcher had even died.
I just don't get how you can be so disparaging of other people not getting things when you yourself are always claiming you've never heard of any number of really obvious or well-know bits of info. Do you actually not see the irony of this?
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Post by doihavetoreally » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:07 pm

Anyone remembers what was the DD in J round? It was in Maine category.

No luck on FJ :?
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Post by EndlessEntropy » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:31 pm

doihavetoreally wrote:Anyone remembers what was the DD in J round? It was in Maine category.

No luck on FJ :?
edit: sorry it was asking about a historian who attended college in maine then married richard goodwin, a presidential advisor.
What’s Montague? It is nor hand, nor foot,
Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
Belonging to a man. O, be some other name!
What’s in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other word would smell as sweet.

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Post by Bamaman » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:35 pm

EndlessEntropy wrote:
doihavetoreally wrote:Anyone remembers what was the DD in J round? It was in Maine category.

No luck on FJ :?
I remember salem was the answer. I think it was asking about a boston cop hunting witches.
Wasn't that in the witches category?

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Post by EndlessEntropy » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:37 pm

Bamaman wrote:
EndlessEntropy wrote:
doihavetoreally wrote:Anyone remembers what was the DD in J round? It was in Maine category.

No luck on FJ :?
I remember salem was the answer. I think it was asking about a boston cop hunting witches.
Wasn't that in the witches category?
Yeah it was but I only saw "J! round" in the post but I edited the other one. witches was J! round, the maine DD was DJ!
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What’s Montague? It is nor hand, nor foot,
Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
Belonging to a man. O, be some other name!
What’s in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other word would smell as sweet.

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:37 pm

The DD was indeed in the Witches category.

I, too, was amused at "fictional witches".
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Post by Vermonter » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:06 pm

Bamaman wrote:
EndlessEntropy wrote:
doihavetoreally wrote:Anyone remembers what was the DD in J round? It was in Maine category.

No luck on FJ :?
I remember salem was the answer. I think it was asking about a boston cop hunting witches.
Wasn't that in the witches category?
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Post by Vermonter » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:08 pm

Bamaman wrote:What about the new champ's late DD wager? The scores were $9,800/$9,000/$8,200. The time warning had long been given and there were two $2,000 clues left. He bet $100 to protect his lead. I don't blame him for not wanting to risk his lead, but I'd have bet $600 in order to guard against the chance there would be one more clue played and Julia could pass me.
I'd have gone for $1,200 to enter the "evenly-spaced scores" scenario were I wrong ... time might not be up before the next clue, but it's very feasible no one will snag a $2,000, entering a wager-to-tie situation in Final.
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Post by Budphrey » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:12 pm

Pet peeve: If Alex has to be so punctilious about pronouncing the first umlaut in "Götterdämmerung", why does he totally miss the second? N.b. I could understand how Julia fumbled the pronunciation the first time around, but it was disappointing as she obviously knew it.
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Post by Bamaman » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:43 pm

Vermonter wrote:
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I just said Kearns for that one, I assume they'd have taken it since it referenced her to being in college (before she was married) and even said she was married to a Mr. Goodwin.

Interesting she pops up on a day they had a Lincoln category.

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