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Re: Final Jeopardy! Clues

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:45 am
by talkingaway
I have two clues on the same topic, same category, same response. At first, pick one of the two clues. I think the second is a little harder, but feedback's welcome.

ROCK TOURS

Clue 1:
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This artist's latest tour features golden rectangular confetti near the end, perhaps a nod to the artist's 1973 8x platinum album.
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The set for this artist's latest tour features a gilded "portal" border that features some of the artist's accomplishments and memorabilia, including the Gucci logo, the silhouette and name of an British dancing boy, a pair of sunglasses, and the name of an adapted Verdi opera.
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Who is Elton John?

Re: Final Jeopardy! Clues

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:16 am
by CasketRomance
talkingaway wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:45 am
I have two clues on the same topic, same category, same response. At first, pick one of the two clues. I think the second is a little harder, but feedback's welcome.

ROCK TOURS

Clue 1:
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This artist's latest tour features golden rectangular confetti near the end, perhaps a nod to the artist's 1973 8x platinum album.
Clue 2:
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The set for this artist's latest tour features a gilded "portal" border that features some of the artist's accomplishments and memorabilia, including the Gucci logo, the silhouette and name of an British dancing boy, a pair of sunglasses, and the name of an adapted Verdi opera.
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Who is Elton John?

i agree...2nd one is harder...not sure if i would have got it, if i looked at that one first...was an instaget with the first one

Re: Final Jeopardy! Clues

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:32 am
by opusthepenguin
gnash wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:43 pm
triviawayne wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:17 am
an inhabitant of a particular town or city.
"the citizens of Los Angeles"

I didn't use the term "legal citizen"
Never heard of the town or city called the United States.
Yes, but you are aware that there is such a place as the United States. And you know that in this place they have towns and cities.

Re: Final Jeopardy! Clues

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:53 am
by mas3cf
ENTREPRENEURS

These two Palo Alto engineers sold eight of their model 200B audio oscillators to Walt Disney in 1939.
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Who are Hewlett and Packard?

Re: Final Jeopardy! Clues

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:16 am
by gnash
opusthepenguin wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:32 am
gnash wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:43 pm
triviawayne wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:17 am
an inhabitant of a particular town or city.
"the citizens of Los Angeles"

I didn't use the term "legal citizen"
Never heard of the town or city called the United States.
Yes, but you are aware that there is such a place as the United States. And you know that in this place they have towns and cities.
The point is that the particular meaning of "citizen" as "an inhabitant of a town or city" is not possible in the context "citizen of the United States".

Re: Final Jeopardy! Clues

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:17 pm
by seaborgium
gnash wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:16 am
opusthepenguin wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:32 am
gnash wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:43 pm
triviawayne wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:17 am
an inhabitant of a particular town or city.
"the citizens of Los Angeles"

I didn't use the term "legal citizen"
Never heard of the town or city called the United States.
Yes, but you are aware that there is such a place as the United States. And you know that in this place they have towns and cities.
The point is that the particular meaning of "citizen" as "an inhabitant of a town or city" is not possible in the context "citizen of the United States".
In that context, isn't it possible to infer "a city or town in"?

Re: Final Jeopardy! Clues

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 2:58 pm
by gnash
seaborgium wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:17 pm
gnash wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:16 am
opusthepenguin wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:32 am
gnash wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:43 pm
triviawayne wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:17 am
an inhabitant of a particular town or city.
"the citizens of Los Angeles"

I didn't use the term "legal citizen"
Never heard of the town or city called the United States.
Yes, but you are aware that there is such a place as the United States. And you know that in this place they have towns and cities.
The point is that the particular meaning of "citizen" as "an inhabitant of a town or city" is not possible in the context "citizen of the United States".
In that context, isn't it possible to infer "a city or town in"?
I think "citizen" has a very specific meaning when used with a country.

Re: Final Jeopardy! Clues

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:20 am
by Mathew5000
gnash wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:01 am
triviawayne wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:57 pm
Category: Stupid Answers

Over 5,000 citizens of the United States have this unique name
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unique
Being a pedant for substance rather than form, my pedantic reaction was "How would you know they are all citizens?"
The dataset comes from "Social Security card applications for births that occurred in the United States after 1879" (source). Being born in the United States, they are citizens subject to a few limited exceptions (e.g. parents were foreign diplomats at time of birth). Now, the dataset has 7,634 instances of babies named Unique (6,874 female, 760 male), all born since 1972. It is quite reasonable to assume that after subtracting the number of these individuals who renounced their citizenship, or never had citizenship because of the diplomat exception, or have died, we are still left with over 5,000 citizens of the United States named Unique.

(That being said, I fully agree with Gnash that the term "citizen of the United States" should be taken as referring to an individual's legal citizenship status. It would be pretty unusual — and, I believe most copyeditors would agree, simply wrong — to use the term "citizens of the United States" to describe a group of people that includes non-citizens who are resident in the U.S. such as Green Card holders.)

Re: Final Jeopardy! Clues

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:51 pm
by gnash
Mathew5000 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:20 am
gnash wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:01 am
triviawayne wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:57 pm
Category: Stupid Answers

Over 5,000 citizens of the United States have this unique name
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unique
Being a pedant for substance rather than form, my pedantic reaction was "How would you know they are all citizens?"
The dataset comes from "Social Security card applications for births that occurred in the United States after 1879" (source). Being born in the United States, they are citizens subject to a few limited exceptions (e.g. parents were foreign diplomats at time of birth). Now, the dataset has 7,634 instances of babies named Unique (6,874 female, 760 male), all born since 1972. It is quite reasonable to assume that after subtracting the number of these individuals who renounced their citizenship, or never had citizenship because of the diplomat exception, or have died, we are still left with over 5,000 citizens of the United States named Unique.

(That being said, I fully agree with Gnash that the term "citizen of the United States" should be taken as referring to an individual's legal citizenship status. It would be pretty unusual — and, I believe most copyeditors would agree, simply wrong — to use the term "citizens of the United States" to describe a group of people that includes non-citizens who are resident in the U.S. such as Green Card holders.)
Thank you! An actual answer to my question!

Re: Final Jeopardy! Clues

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:17 pm
by Ironhorse
talkingaway wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:45 am
I have two clues on the same topic, same category, same response. At first, pick one of the two clues. I think the second is a little harder, but feedback's welcome.

ROCK TOURS

Clue 1:
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This artist's latest tour features golden rectangular confetti near the end, perhaps a nod to the artist's 1973 8x platinum album.
Clue 2:
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The set for this artist's latest tour features a gilded "portal" border that features some of the artist's accomplishments and memorabilia, including the Gucci logo, the silhouette and name of an British dancing boy, a pair of sunglasses, and the name of an adapted Verdi opera.
Response:
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Who is Elton John?
I couldn't pull the first one for whatever reason despite having listened to that album many times. The second one was an instaget once I saw
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sunglasses
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Re: Final Jeopardy! Clues

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:39 am
by talkingaway
Ironhorse wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:17 pm
talkingaway wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:45 am
I have two clues on the same topic, same category, same response. At first, pick one of the two clues. I think the second is a little harder, but feedback's welcome.

ROCK TOURS

Clue 1:
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This artist's latest tour features golden rectangular confetti near the end, perhaps a nod to the artist's 1973 8x platinum album.
Clue 2:
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The set for this artist's latest tour features a gilded "portal" border that features some of the artist's accomplishments and memorabilia, including the Gucci logo, the silhouette and name of an British dancing boy, a pair of sunglasses, and the name of an adapted Verdi opera.
Response:
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Who is Elton John?
I couldn't pull the first one for whatever reason despite having listened to that album many times. The second one was an instaget once I saw
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sunglasses
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I kind of think both clues are a lesson in focus: if you concentrate too much on confetti for the first one, or Gucci on the second one, you might be led astray. But if you figure out why I was forced to choose the semi-odd word "golden", and then picture the shape, you have the most important two words of the album. Or, like you said, if you zoom in on the signature sunglasses, it's an instaget.

I tried to find sources for some more of the artifacts for clue 2 other than my own eyes, but failed at the time. I finally found a picture that did have the obvious logo from the Lion King. If I were to rewrite it, I might switch out the Gucci clue for "a member of the species Panthera leo". The other item I saw was "a boy who died at the age of 18 in 1990", but that was just too depressing to include for a real J! clue. I also might be nicer with "Verdi opera" and put up "name of a Nubian princess from a musical" - I thought Aida was a princess, but wasn't sure on my original research.

Re: Final Jeopardy! Clues

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:03 pm
by Picked Off
BUSINESS

20 percent of ESPN is owned by this corporation that launched with a single newspaper in 1887.
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What is Hearst?

Re: Final Jeopardy! Clues

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:39 pm
by nserven
Picked Off wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:03 pm
BUSINESS

20 percent of ESPN is owned by this corporation that launched with a single newspaper in 1887.
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What is Hearst?
My guess was
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Scripps, given that ESPN broadcasts the spelling bee.

Re: Final Jeopardy! Clues

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:33 pm
by AFRET CMS
Could probably use some tweaking, but I hope the general flavor is interesting:


NEOLOGISMS

Though it sounds as if it could be "Grandfather of Waters" in a Native American language, this word is actually a semi-portmanteau coinage.


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Coined by explorer/geographer Henry Schoolcraft in the 1830s.
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Formed by combining syllables from the Latin for "truth" and "head".

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ITASCA.

Lake Itasca in Minnesota, as the Mississippi's source, could be considered the "father of the father of waters." Henry Schoolcraft formed the word from verITAS and CAput after an expedition in the early 1830s.

Re: Final Jeopardy! Clues

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:53 am
by mas3cf
THE PERIODIC TABLE

The two non-metallic elements named after heavenly bodies.
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What are helium and selenium?

Re: Final Jeopardy! Clues

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:13 am
by boson
mas3cf wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:53 am
THE PERIODIC TABLE

The two elements named after heavenly bodies known to the ancients.
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What are helium and selenium?
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Its hard to rule out Mercury.

Re: Final Jeopardy! Clues

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:09 am
by mas3cf
boson wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:13 am
mas3cf wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:53 am
THE PERIODIC TABLE

The two elements named after heavenly bodies known to the ancients.
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What are helium and selenium?
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Its hard to rule out Mercury.

Good point. I added TOM to fix that, which allowed me to removed other TOM.

Re: Final Jeopardy! Clues

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:10 am
by alietr
mas3cf wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:09 am
boson wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:13 am
mas3cf wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:53 am
THE PERIODIC TABLE

The two elements named after heavenly bodies known to the ancients.
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What are helium and selenium?
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Its hard to rule out Mercury.

Good point. I added TOM to fix that, which allowed me to removed other TOM.
How does 'known to the ancients' rule out Mercury?

Re: Final Jeopardy! Clues

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:49 am
by opusthepenguin
mas3cf wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:53 am
THE PERIODIC TABLE

The two elements named after heavenly bodies known to the ancients.
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What are helium and selenium?
Is Earth considered a heavenly body? Or are we thinking of Earth as the fixed point in reference to which "the heavens" are defined? I assume the latter, but this might be debatable. If the former, Tellurium qualifies.

Re: Final Jeopardy! Clues

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:58 am
by econgator
opusthepenguin wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:49 am
If the former, Tellurium qualifies.
Pretty sure that was named after Edwurd Tellur.