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Re: Wildcard Cutoffs redux

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^From the old alt.tv.game-shows message board (Brian Dominy used to post there around 1996 or so).

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Jeff-thecdboy wrote:^From the old alt.tv.game-shows message board (Brian Dominy used to post there around 1996 or so).
Thanks. I have updated the averages and added the winners from the older tournaments from the Jeopardy! web page.

I am still missing wild card data from the following tournaments if anyone has this information:

SENIORS
Season 5

TEEN
Season 5
Season 7
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Re: Wildcard Cutoffs redux

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Bamaman wrote:Seniors Tournament
1988 Seniors Tournament (Season 4)-Held in ????-Won by Peggy Kennedy
I do not have enough information about this tournament. None of the games are archived.

1990 Seniors Tournament (Season 6)-Held in ????-Won by George Souls
$2,700 (Arnold Yellin)
$2,600 (Cole Andersen)

1992 Seniors Tournament (Season 8)-Held in ?????-Won by Leonard Schmidt
$2,000 (Lois Rosenfeld)
$1,599 (Mag Birge)

1994 Seniors Tournament (Season 10)-Held in ????-Won by Bart Thomas
$400 (Frances Taliaferro)
$300 (Dodge Crockett)

1995A Seniors Tournament (Season 11)-Held in July-Won by ?????
$7,000 (Steve Paquette)
$5,200 (Fran Rothman)
The 1988 Seniors Tournament was held in May 1988.

The 1990, 1992, & 1994 Seniors Tournaments were held in July.

The July 1995 Seniors Tournament was won by Aaron Klein.

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Re: Wildcard Cutoffs redux

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Bamaman wrote:Teen Tournament
1995 Teen Tournament (Season 11)-Held in ????-Won by Matt Zielenski
$7,300 (Halla Yang)
$6,600 (Jim Steichen)
This Teen Tournament was held in February 1995.

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Re: Wildcard Cutoffs redux

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Bamaman wrote:
Jeff-thecdboy wrote:^From the old alt.tv.game-shows message board (Brian Dominy used to post there around 1996 or so).
Thanks. I have updated the averages and added the winners from the older tournaments from the Jeopardy! web page.

I am still missing wild card data from the following tournaments if anyone has this information:

SENIORS
Season 4
Season 5

Also, the show's website does not acknowledge the Seniors Tournament held in Season 11, although I do have wild card data from that event based on the old thread.

COLLEGE
Season 5
Season 7
Season 9

TEEN
Season 3
Season 5
Season 7
Here is some of what you are missing:

1988 Seniors
Spoiler
QF #2
Charmion Burns: 8600-600=8000 (WC)
Peggy Kennedy: 5400+5400=10800(Win)
Joan Smith: 8200-1800=6400

#3
Bob Winthrop: 9800-2000=7800
Katie O'Callaghan: 1200-1200=0
Fran Kirchhof: 10800+1000=11800 (Win)

#4
Ross Cameron: 6100+2701=8801 (Win)
Ed Cohen: 4400+4400=8800 (WC)
Don Maynard: 900-900=0

I don't have QF #1 or #5, but you can see above that 7800 missed out on the semis while 8000 made it for the likely low spot.
1989 College
Spoiler
QF#1
Dave Piatt: 600-599=1
Betty Hsu: 2800+206=3006
Tom Cubbage: 15400-0=15400 (Win)

QF#2
Linda Krisak: 11000+4000=15000 (Win)
Chris Swensen: 7700-2400=5300
Jason Powderly: 6900+6900=13800 (WC)

QF#3
Monroe Roark: 9800-0=9800 (WC)
Ann Danielson: minus 1300
Kristine Zaleskas: 8600+1600=10200 (Win)

QF#4
Anna Siomopoulos: 3600-3401=199
Kyle Bostian: 6700+6000=12700 (Win)
Alex Yang: 10200-200=10000 (WC)

QF#5
Paula Ashbaugh: 2200-2000=200
David Nieporent: 7800+800=8600 (WC)
Jason Moore: 10600+5001=15601 (Win)
1991 College
Spoiler
QF#1
Eric Przybylko: 2300-2299=1
Jean O'Hearn: 1700-1700=0
David Morris: 7400-1600=5800 (Win)

QF#2
Maureen McIvor: 5400-5400=0
Tim Lakin: 11400+1500=12900 (Win)
Kimberly Bartlett: 6300+6300=12600 (WC)

QF#3
Franco Recchia: 7100+2900=10000 (WC)
Michael Cantor: 5200+5000=10200 (WC)
Kelly Barbour: 6000+5000=11000 (Win)

QF#4
Holly McCann: 4200-2600=1600
Andre Duvoisin: 6000-4000=2000 (Win)
Maureen Duffy: 2300-2300=0

QF#5
Scott Gillispie: 13600+500=14100 (Win)
Mike Furlanetto: 3200+3200=6400
Kate Czukas: 6500+6400=12900 (WC)
1993 College
Spoiler
QF#1
Jeff Thomsen: 11300+501=11801 (Win)
Nikki Laski: 4400+4400=8800
Keena Baumgartner: 5900+5900=11800 (WC)

QF#2
John van DeWeert: 11900+500=12400 (Win)
Rhonda Rodriguez: 1700-1700=0
Sate Falley: 4900+4900=9800

QF#3
Dave Larson: 7400+3601=11001 (WC)
Ericka Hayes: 4200-4200=0
Nelson Brooks: 11000+4000=15000 (Win)

QF#4
Phoebe Juel: 7500+6000=13500 (Win)
Andi Bloom: 6800-6800=0
Patrick Archdeacon: 3600-3598=2

QF#5
Jessica Sison: 6600+5599=11199 (WC)
Ann Menge: 8000+7500=15500 (Win)
Eric Biber: 11000-201=10799 (WC)
Another time I'll look into seeing what I have of the teens. I know I don't have the 1989 seniors.

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Re: Wildcard Cutoffs redux

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1987 Teens:

Curt King: 1900-1900=0
Dawn Marie Nolan: 3800-3500=300
Paul Egendorf: 10900-100=10800 (Win)

Mitch Epner: 3800+2001=5801 (WC)
Amy Wilson: 2900+2000=4900
Michael Galvin: 11300+0=11300 (Win)

Cres Formey: 4800+100=4900
Sara Stanchina: minus 600
Salil Kumar: 6500+701=7201 (Win)

Lisa Patterson: 5900+0=5900 (WC)
Brian Kalt: 5700+1300=7000 (Win)
Dana Venator: 8000-3000=5000 (WC)

David Simon: 6400+901=7301 (Win)
Felicia Corralez: 1700-1700=0
Mike Becker: 7300-300=7000 (WC)

Amy Wilson and Cres Formey are not still reminded about it every day are they? ;)

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Re: Wildcard Cutoffs redux

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Thank you for the information, I have finally gotten around to putting it in. I now have complete data for the college tournaments. Still missing the Teen Tournaments from Seasons 5 and 7 as well as the seniors from Season 5. Hopefully I get the scores from the current TOC entered prior to next year's TOC.

Thanks again for your help.

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Bumping this thread for the 2016 college tournament.

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I finally got around to inputting the data from the three tournaments held since my last update.

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I have finally gotten around to updating this thread with the tournament scores from the last few years. Please let me know if you see any errors.

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Here is a list of tournament games not in the archive

Seniors-5 with three other games partially done
Season 4
QF5, SF1 Missing first eight clues

Season 5
QF2, QF3-Missing intros and first segment, QF4, QF5, SF1

Season 8
SF1-missing first three clues

College-One game partially done
Season 7
F2-Contains first 20 clues only

Teen-3 with one game partially done

Season 5
QF2, QF3

Season 7
QF1-Missing first 13 clues.

Season 10
QF1
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Bamaman wrote:
Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:37 pm
1988 Seniors Tournament (Season 4)-Held in May-Won by Peggy Kennedy
$8,000 (Charmion Burns)-FJ wrong, players 1/3
$7,800 (Bob Winthrop)-FJ wrong, players 1/3

Only the first four games are archived. These are the presumed scores based on information from Mark Barrett.
Tom Wickham was the last wild card, at $7,800 after gaining $400 in FJ, while Bob Winthrop's $7,800 came from losing $2,000 in FJ. (I guess today's tiebreaker rules for the last wild card weren't codified then; as far as we assume, Tom got the nod because he got his FJ right.) Furthermore, they were tied for fifth highest score among non-winners; one of the other four (called "D.J. Smith" in the Associated Press article from which we know this, obviously from the unarchived game) was disqualified between tapings for having been on Wheel of Fortune too recently.

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Thanks for your work on this valuable resource, Bamaman. I caught two small errors:

The S35/ November 2018 Teen Tourney was omitted from that section of the thread (won by Claire Sattler). Copied from TJF: 4) Rohan Kapileshwari $11,900 ($9,800, $3,400) ---- 5) Rhea Sinha, $6,800 ($11,800, $4,600). Archive shows that Rohan was correct in a 2/3 FJ, while Rhea was the only miss on a 2/3.

The last 2017 ToC wildcard went to Tim Aten ($11,500) and Justin was the first out. Tim was incorrect on a 1/3 FJ.

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seaborgium wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 6:30 pm
Bamaman wrote:
Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:37 pm
1988 Seniors Tournament (Season 4)-Held in May-Won by Peggy Kennedy
$8,000 (Charmion Burns)-FJ wrong, players 1/3
$7,800 (Bob Winthrop)-FJ wrong, players 1/3

Only the first four games are archived. These are the presumed scores based on information from Mark Barrett.
Tom Wickham was the last wild card, at $7,800 after gaining $400 in FJ, while Bob Winthrop's $7,800 came from losing $2,000 in FJ. (I guess today's tiebreaker rules for the last wild card weren't codified then; as far as we assume, Tom got the nod because he got his FJ right.) Furthermore, they were tied for fifth highest score among non-winners; one of the other four (called "D.J. Smith" in the Associated Press article from which we know this, obviously from the unarchived game) was disqualified between tapings for having been on Wheel of Fortune too recently.
Thanks for the information. I wish we knew D.J.’s score but it couldn’t have been much more than $7,800 if third place was $8,000.

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Bamaman wrote:
Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:37 pm
$10,000 (Diana North)-FJ wron, players 2/3
I see what you did there.

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threearruda wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:06 pm
Thanks for your work on this valuable resource, Bamaman. I caught two small errors:

The S35/ November 2018 Teen Tourney was omitted from that section of the thread (won by Claire Sattler). Copied from TJF: 4) Rohan Kapileshwari $11,900 ($9,800, $3,400) ---- 5) Rhea Sinha, $6,800 ($11,800, $4,600). Archive shows that Rohan was correct in a 2/3 FJ, while Rhea was the only miss on a 2/3.

The last 2017 ToC wildcard went to Tim Aten ($11,500) and Justin was the first out. Tim was incorrect on a 1/3 FJ.
Thanks. I will fix it when I put the next Teachers Tournament stats in next month.

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I believe I now have everything inputted after the first week of the Teachers Tournament.

Mark Barrett-Do you have wild card info for the Eric Newhouse Teen Tournament? You said you were missing two QF games but did they announce the scores at the end of QF5 so I can at least get the last qualifier?

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Bamaman wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 10:42 pm
I believe I now have everything inputted after the first week of the Teachers Tournament.

Mark Barrett-Do you have wild card info for the Eric Newhouse Teen Tournament? You said you were missing two QF games but did they announce the scores at the end of QF5 so I can at least get the last qualifier?
I have shared what I know:
viewtopic.php?p=333532#p333532
viewtopic.php?p=333613#p333613

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Actually, 1991 College Finals #1 is fully archived.

http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6315

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Jeff-thecdboy wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:07 pm
Actually, 1991 College Finals #1 is fully archived.

http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6315
Fixed. Thanks.

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