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Re: J! in the Media

Post by earendel » Mon May 20, 2019 11:04 am

Not sure if this counts as "media" but The Straight Dope message board has a discussion about James's run that morphs into a discussion about changing the way the game is played.
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According to the producer of 500 Questions it was "a shame" that James Holzhauer wasn't able to unseat Steve Bahnaman in that show.
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Re: J! in the Media

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Golf wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 9:10 am
I agree with Alix's point that James' strategy won't be easy to replicate. I think the casual viewer thinks James has hit on some secret formula no one else had previously thought of, but the reason that strategy works for James is he has the knowledge and buzzer skills to control the board.

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Re: J! in the Media

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From The New Yorker:
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Re: J! in the Media

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Robin's not just commenting on the game here. Sure, some players will enter the green room in full cutthroat mode. But the contestant coordinators customarily get everyone laughing and having fun together right off the bat to prevent backstage rancor. What the heck happened?

My husband is in the contestant pool, but he's not equipped to compete in the post-Holzhauer era, if there is indeed such an era forthcoming! Better step up the training:
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Please ensure your comments aren't attacking contestants.
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Re: J! in the Media

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Regarding the CNN interview, I can't figure out why James would tell the other contestants he took a year off his job to train, because admittedly the only job he's had since college is being a professional sports gambler. Some people are intensely competitive, and that tends to really get under the skin of people who aren't. I remember a recent interview with The Beast where he said if he'd gone up against James, he would've started trash-talking James as a form of mental warfare!
Here's a thread from one of our boardies (a voice of reason in this crazy time) who said she trained 20-30 hours a week for two years:

I think if social media had been an integral part of people's lives in 2004-2005, there would've been a ton of subtweeting (or its equivalent), sniping, and overall bitterness towards Ken and Dave Madden. Look at what Arthur experienced five years ago; it would've been worse now. Take someone with an insanely long winning streak and what may turn out to be the highest cash total of all time and of course many people are going to hate him, even within the community.
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Re: J! in the Media

Post by alietr » Wed May 22, 2019 9:36 pm

One of the recent shows made me wonder what they'd do if someone just put their buzzer down in DJ, said "Screw it!" and walked off.

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Re: J! in the Media

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He's making a horcrux? Are all his victims accounted for?

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Re: J! in the Media

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squarekara wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 7:10 pm
Robin's not just commenting on the game here. Sure, some players will enter the green room in full cutthroat mode. But the contestant coordinators customarily get everyone laughing and having fun together right off the bat to prevent backstage rancor. What the heck happened?
With her attitude, I think it's a possibility her story isn't accurate.
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Please ensure your comments aren't attacking contestants.
I didn't see her comments before the edit. But seeing as how Robin went on national TV and attacked another contestant, I'd say she's fair game.

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Golf wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 10:45 am
OntarioQuizzer wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 7:38 pm
Please ensure your comments aren't attacking contestants.
I didn't see her comments before the edit. But seeing as how Robin went on national TV and attacked another contestant, I'd say she's fair game.
I guess you didn't notice your previous post was edited.

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Re: J! in the Media

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OntarioQuizzer wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 7:38 pm
Please ensure your comments aren't attacking contestants.
Golf wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 10:45 am
I didn't see her comments before the edit. But seeing as how Robin went on national TV and attacked another contestant, I'd say she's fair game.
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Thu May 23, 2019 11:08 am
I guess you didn't notice your previous post was edited.
I did not, thanks for pointing that out.

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Re: J! in the Media

Post by squarekara » Thu May 23, 2019 12:01 pm

Golf wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 10:45 am
squarekara wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 7:10 pm
Robin's not just commenting on the game here. Sure, some players will enter the green room in full cutthroat mode. But the contestant coordinators customarily get everyone laughing and having fun together right off the bat to prevent backstage rancor. What the heck happened?
With her attitude, I think it's a possibility her story isn't accurate.
OntarioQuizzer wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 7:38 pm
Please ensure your comments aren't attacking contestants.
I didn't see her comments before the edit. But seeing as how Robin went on national TV and attacked another contestant, I'd say she's fair game.
I edited my previous post for clarity because I had quoted something that had been removed, that's all.

Robin was delightful on the show, and it's sad to hear about hostile conditions behind the scenes. For the record, I don't think anyone giving a firsthand account of personal experience deserves to be attacked.

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Re: J! in the Media

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Starting at the 2:55 mark Robin talks about how James took all of the fun out of the game. How he did nothing but study for Jeopardy for a year. Then while playing the game he treated it as work. Well sure, James is looking at this as a job, no different than how any other person looks at their job. Only James is earning a significantly higher wage than most. That could be why Robin is reacting the way she is, hard not to be jealous.

Or could it be that she feels as though James thoroughly embarrassed her on national TV? This would not be true, players in competitions get crushed by significantly better players every day. A good competitor takes their lumps and moves on.

Could it be that she's mad at herself for her late DD wager? There was a chance to win had she wagered everything. But for reasons known only to her, she wagered $1k, which gave her no opportunity to win.

I understand why she didn't have fun. Winning is fun, it's even more fun when you win by a lot. It's really fun when you get lots of money for it. None of that happened for Robin.

Working really hard to achieve something is not a crime. Winning is not a crime. I've seen many people that just meander through life making fun of those who actually try and do something with their lives. These are the ones who wonder where their participation trophies are.

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Re: J! in the Media

Post by squarekara » Thu May 23, 2019 12:51 pm

Golf wrote:
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I understand why she didn't have fun. Winning is fun, it's even more fun when you win by a lot. It's really fun when you get lots of money for it. None of that happened for Robin.
For all his prep and focus, James absolutely deserves every dollar he's earning. But gameplay aside, Robin's overall experience was clearly marred by behavior backstage that affected not only her, but other contestants, and even staff. That's a shame.

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Re: J! in the Media

Post by This Is Kirk! » Thu May 23, 2019 1:01 pm

squarekara wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 12:51 pm
Golf wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 12:10 pm
I understand why she didn't have fun. Winning is fun, it's even more fun when you win by a lot. It's really fun when you get lots of money for it. None of that happened for Robin.
For all his prep and focus, James absolutely deserves every dollar he's earning. But gameplay aside, Robin's overall experience was clearly marred by behavior backstage that affected not only her, but other contestants, and even staff. That's a shame.
It is, but have any other contestants made similar allegations? Some people may rub certain people the wrong way while others may have found their behavior perfectly acceptable.

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