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J! Archive suggestion

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:39 pm
by jeopfansincebirth
When one accesses the "all seasons" link on the J! Archive, it shows a list of all the seasons of the Trebek era, including the pilots.

Here's a suggestion to improve on it: Instead of a list format, how about incorporating the logos from those seasons in sort of a table format, and clicking on either the season link or the logo from that season will access all the archived games for that particular season.

Re: J! Archive suggestion

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:48 pm
by jeffwolfe
I have sort of a related suggestion. I often find myself going to the J! Archive wanting to see the list of seasons. It would be nice if you could add "[all]" to the string of season links on the front page, and make that link to the list of seasons.

Re: J! Archive suggestion

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:54 pm
by dhkendall
jeffwolfe wrote:I have sort of a related suggestion. I often find myself going to the J! Archive wanting to see the list of seasons. It would be nice if you could add "[all]" to the string of season links on the front page, and make that link to the list of seasons.
Personally, I don't see any benefit of jeopfansincebirth's request, but I wholeheartedly support this one.

Re: J! Archive suggestion

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:45 pm
by alietr
Personally, I would love to see the search box on the homepage instead of needing to click through to a season.

Re: J! Archive suggestion

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:09 pm
by goforthetie
It would be nice if games that have a page but have yet to be completely archived were marked on the list of episodes.

Re: J! Archive suggestion

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:10 pm
by Bamaman
I agree with the last three ideas and have one of my own. Would it be possible to have a page that shows the most recently added games? I know we have the old games thread, but people don't always mention it there when they do add a game. Maybe the twenty or so most recent could be on the list. Could the current season's games be filtered out if such a list if it were done?

Re: J! Archive suggestion

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:36 pm
by Robert K S
From my own personal design perspective, the splash is designed to be pretty more than functional. Those preferring function can bookmark to a deeper page, or in most modern browsers it is just as easy to get to a deep page through the address bar via autocomplete as it is to get to the splash. There is now an [All] link on the splash, though I think it lessens the feng shui of the design. I would prefer not to add a search box to the splash until (1) it can be done without further damaging the feng shui and (2) I can improve the search functionality (alas, I've never had time to upgrade it beyond the highly simplistic placeholder version of search I built to serve as a temporary solution when the site got put up). The search is probably a big memory/processor hog for the server and a lot of searches just plain fail, or don't serve up the results they ought to.

I can add a "recently added games" list but the problem is that many times a game gets added as a skeleton (players/date, no clues) and then gets filled in weeks/months/years later. So the recently added games might not actually include skeletons newly filled in, unless I can figure out reasonable ways for the system to be able to distinguish games that have recently gone from skeleton to complete from games that have gone from complete to revised-complete. Tricksy.

How would you want skeletons denoted on the game lists? In strikethrough?

Re: J! Archive suggestion

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:41 pm
by dhkendall
Bamaman wrote:I agree with the last three ideas and have one of my own. Would it be possible to have a page that shows the most recently added games? I know we have the old games thread, but people don't always mention it there when they do add a game. Maybe the twenty or so most recent could be on the list. Could the current season's games be filtered out if such a list if it were done?
I think the Archive still has a (seldom used) Twitter account, this might work for that, pretty much the only thing I use the Twitter account for my anthems site for (which is my only Twitter account so far, I don't have a personal one) is announcing updates/changes/additions.

Re: J! Archive suggestion

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:49 pm
by MDaunt
Also, could all the archivists quit their day jobs and devote themselves to this full time?

Re: J! Archive suggestion

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:53 pm
by jeff6286
MDaunt wrote:Also, could all the archivists quit their day jobs and devote themselves to this full time?
Day jobs? Who signed off on this?

Re: J! Archive suggestion

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:02 pm
by goforthetie
Robert K S wrote: How would you want skeletons denoted on the game lists? In strikethrough?
Strikethrough seems inelegant... maybe just a different color or font, or a small icon at the end of the listing? Thanks for all your efforts!

Re: J! Archive suggestion

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:01 pm
by econgator
Robert K S wrote:How would you want skeletons denoted on the game lists? In strikethrough?
A picture of Skeletor next to it.

Re: J! Archive suggestion

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:18 pm
by Robert K S
There is a skull and crossbones unicode symbol, ☠, but it doesn't look good in small fonts.

(To see it larger here, try holding down Ctrl on your keyboard while wheeling up on your mouse.)

Re: J! Archive suggestion

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:33 pm
by Bamaman
Yeah, the skeleton games would be a problem. Someone could put in one of the games from S18 and no one would know.

Re: J! Archive suggestion

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:01 am
by dhkendall
Maybe just put the skeleton games in brackets in the index?

(I know, big surprise *me* suggesting brackets!)

Re: J! Archive suggestion

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:08 am
by thejeopardyfan
alietr wrote:Personally, I would love to see the search box on the homepage instead of needing to click through to a season.
Me too, but I remember saying this here before.
I also suggest dhkendall gets a personal Twitter account. ;)

Re: J! Archive suggestion

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:38 am
by OrangeSAM
dhkendall wrote:Maybe just put the skeleton games in brackets in the index?

(I know, big surprise *me* suggesting brackets!)
Leave it dhkendall to suggest a way to flag the skeleton games.

Re: J! Archive suggestion

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:55 am
by barandall800
thejeopardyfan wrote:
alietr wrote:Personally, I would love to see the search box on the homepage instead of needing to click through to a season.
Me too, but I remember saying this here before.
I also suggest dhkendall gets a personal Twitter account. ;)
Vigorously seconded. :D

Re: J! Archive suggestion

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:49 pm
by jeopardyfan87
I also have a suggestion, and I don't want any of you to believe that I'm acting crazy here, but though this in a way wouldn't belong in the official J-Archive, I wonder if someone out there could make a separate site of archived games that would be of the two spin-off editions of the show, the 1998 kids show "Jep!" and the 1998-2001 VH1 show "Rock & Roll Jeopardy!" Of course, there are downfalls for using both editions that might make it tough to make archives; for "Jep!" more than 50% of all the clues given were visuals, the kids' buzzer was a randomizer to select the point value, besides Daily Doubles there were also clues that would feature the "JEP! Squad" & clues that would let the contestants win a Tiger Toys prize, and the way incorrect answers were treated. And for Rock & Roll Jeopardy, though there were more clues there with just words on the screens and the game boards were just like the regular Jeopardy show, those downfalls were the fact that some clues were just audio or video clips (or for that matter were included in the clues), and there was no first-break during Round 1 of play.

And like the regular J! Archive, seeing both editions played reruns of episodes several times when they aired on television, it makes me think if viewers would want each show's episode #'s and original airdates in place too.

Re: J! Archive suggestion

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:57 pm
by fritzk3
I have a separate suggestion:

Would it be possible to place some date selectors [MM] [DD] [YYYY] on the front page, such that you could go directly to an archived show of interest? One reason for doing this would be for people who are catching up on episodes and don't want to see spoilers by going to the list of episodes and seeing the names of the contestants each day (and thus who the winners were from each show).

With some clever coding, it might even be possible to set up the boxes such that you choose the year (or season) first, then the date selectors dynamically populate to only provide valid matches.

Just a thought.