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Thursday, October 16, 2014 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:30 am

Game Recap for Show #6919, 2014-10-16

CONTESTANTS
Jim Hamilton, a risk manager from Wilmington, Delaware
Chris Hoeh, an architect from Riverdale, Georgia
John Campbell, a romance novelist from Weymouth, Massachusetts (whose 1-day cash winnings total $16,400)

OPENING REMARKS
Alex: Thanks, Johnny. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Nice to have you with us today for another half-hour of answers and questions. A good young champion in John, romance novelist. Jim and Chris are here to challenge. Let's see how it works out. Here we go, guys. Categories...

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
ALEXANDER HAMILTON, GRUMPY GUY (5/5)
MUSIC (4/5)
EGGING YOU ON (2/3)
ELEMENTS OF THE FAIRY TALE (4/5)
INVENTIVE THINKING (4/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
H _ _ E (5/5) (Alex: Each correct response will be four letters, beginning with an "H," ending with an "E.")

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
John: 11 R (including 1 rebound and 1 DD), 1 W
Chris: 7 R, 2 W
Jim: 6 R, 1 W

Clues revealed: 28
Triple Stumpers: 4
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $2,400



SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
John: $3,800
Jim: $1,600
Chris: $1,400

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Alex: Jim Hamilton is a risk manager who went skydiving not too long ago with an 85-year-old --man or woman?

Jim: Man. My wife's grandfather.

Alex: Aha! You're a risk manager.

Jim: I know.

Alex: Didn't you tell him this is a dangerous sport for an 85-year-old?

Jim: I did. It was a tandem jump, so all of us had a partner, and he had done it once before on his 80th birthday, so he was the veteran of the group.

Alex: Okay. Was this a first for you?

Jim: It was, and a last. [ laughter ]

Alex: Ahh. That's why you're a risk manager.

Jim: Yes.

Alex: You understand the problems involved there.




Alex: Chris Hoeh is an architect from Georgia...

Chris: Yes, sir.

Alex: ...Who flew to Germany to propose to a young woman, and that caused some complications before the fact.

Chris: It did. It did. My wife's originally from Munich, and I decided when I flew over there to propose to her that I would propose in German, but my pronunciation wasn't good, and it still really isn't, so as I was walking down the street to her apartment, I continued to say the phrase out loud to practice it, and about 10, 12 people gave me very, very strange looks as I was proposing to them on the sidewalk. [ laughter ]

Alex: Aha.

Chris: You know, I didn't get any responses. No rejections.

Alex: I was just gonna say --did anybody follow you for a while?

Chris: No, no, no, fortunately, I got a positive answer at the end of the trip.

Alex: Good for you.




Alex: John Campbell. He's a romance novelist. He's from Massachusetts. He is our champion, but he does good works. Also founded what kind of a nonprofit?

John: I started a nonprofit to bring students from Afghanistan to high school and college in the U.S.

Alex: Boys and girls?

John: Boys and girls. Yeah, right now, there are 18 students in the program, and the first two who started up in 2008 just graduated from college about two months ago.

Alex: Good for you. Continued success with that organization.

JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
John found the Daily Double on the 20th clue. John had $4,200, Chris had $2,600, and Jim was at $1,600. John wagered $2,000.

INVENTIVE THINKING $1000: More than Bell's sidekick, he came up with a ringer that let a telephone caller alert the recipient

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
MUSIC $1000: In 2004 he won a song of the year Grammy for "Daughters"

INVENTIVE THINKING $400: In 1888 George Eastman offered this small box camera for $25; that's about $600 in today's dollars
(John: What is the Polaroid?)
(Chris: What is the brownie?)

ELEMENTS OF THE FAIRY TALE $200: Weavers don't weave; a kid tells it like it is; out goes a G rating for not-so-brief royal nudity
(Jim: What is "The Emperor with No Clothes"?)
...
(Alex: You were so close, Jim. It is "What is [*]?" not "no clothes." Although
he didn't have any clothes. You were right there.)

EGGING YOU ON $800: This 3-word Chinese-American dish also includes bean sprouts, water chestnuts, scallions & ham

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
John: $8,400
Chris: $4,200
Jim: $2,000

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DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
EUROPEAN RIVERS (4/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
FEEL-GOOD MOVIES (3/5)
SOCIAL SCIENCE BOOKS (1/3, including 1 missed Daily Double)
MR. "T" (3/5)
ART & MYTHOLOGY (3/5)
MAD MAX BEYOND PALINDROME (3/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
John: 10 R (including 1 DD), 3 W (including 1 DD)
Jim: 4 R, 0 W
Chris: 3 R, 1 W

Clues revealed: 28
Triple Stumpers: 10
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $15,200



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
John snagged the next Daily Double on the 5th clue. John had $11,200, Chris had $4,200, and Jim was at $2,400. John wagered $3,000.

EUROPEAN RIVERS $1600: Iberus was the ancient name for the longest river entirely within this country
...
(Alex: [*]. Yes. It's now known
as the Ebro.)

SECOND DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
It was John who snatched up the last Daily Double of the game on the 12th clue. John had $16,600, Chris had $2,200, and Jim was at $2,400. John wagered $1,000.

SOCIAL SCIENCE BOOKS $1200: "What do school teachers and sumo wrestlers have in common?" is one question asked in this "crazy" 2005 book
(John: What is...)
...
(Alex: I didn't think you were anywhere near that in your brain.)
(John: Nope. Was not.)

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
EUROPEAN RIVERS $2000: Cities on this important commercial waterway include Geneva, Lyon & Avignon
(Chris: What is the Seine?)

ART & MYTHOLOGY $800: An ancient statue in the Louvre's Egyptian antiquities collection depicts this goddess suckling Horus
(John: Who is Osiris?)

ART & MYTHOLOGY $2000: Created in the 1600s,
the mosaic seen here depicts this masterful musician and son of Apollo
...
(Alex: And that is [*]. Oh, you knew that, John. You should have rung in.)

MAD MAX BEYOND PALINDROME $800: Max could teach some combat skills to this actor who played an "Avengers" archer

MAD MAX BEYOND PALINDROME $2000: Now an air warrior, & operating a plane unaccompanied, Max does this

MR. "T" $1600: In 1876 he won the popular vote but not the White House

MR. "T" $2000: Once Napoleon's minister of foreign affairs, he later opposed the little guy and helped restore the Bourbon dynasty
...
(Alex: And that would be the famous [*].)

FEEL-GOOD MOVIES $2000: 1945, starring Rex Harrison:
"___ Spirit"

FEEL-GOOD MOVIES $1200: 1952, starring Lana Turner:
"The ___ Widow"

SOCIAL SCIENCE BOOKS $800: James Surowiecki wrote of "the wisdom of" these large groups, as opposed to elites
(John: What are the masses?)
...
[End-of-round signal sounds.]

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
John: $17,200 (lock game)
Jim: $6,000
Chris: $4,200

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
LITERATURE

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
Lock for first place; two-thirds for second place.
John: Wager between $0 (venusian) and $5,199 (martian), and enjoy your victory.
Jim: Wager $2,401 to cover Chris.
Chris: Risk between $0 and $600, and you just may move up into second place.

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
This title 1864 adventure is embarked upon by a descent into Iceland's Mount Sneffels

FINAL SCORES
Chris: $4,200 + $4,200 = $8,400 (What is Journey to the Center of the Earth) (2nd place: $2,000)
Jim: $6,000 - $2,400 = $3,600 (What is Heidi?) (3rd place: $1,000)
John: $17,200 + $1,800 = $19,000 (What is Journey to the Center of the Earth) (2-day champion: $35,400)
(Alex: Now we go to Jim Hamilton, and he is smiling rather sheepishly. What is that?)
[after revealing Jim's response]
(Alex: Ah, yes. A descent into Iceland's Mount Sneffels with Heidi. She was a fun kind of girl. Ah, you're gonna lose $2400 for that one, but I love the humor of it.)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $17,600

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
John: $15,800, 21 R (including 2 DDs), 4 W (including 1 DD)
Jim: $6,000, 10 R, 1 W
Chris: $4,200, 10 R, 3 W
Combined Coryat: $26,000

BATTING AVERAGES
John: 22/61 = .361
Chris: 11/58 = .190
Jim: 10/58 = .172
Team: 43/63 = .683

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
ALEXANDER HAMILTON, GRUMPY GUY $400: In 1798 this man was forced into making Hamilton 2nd-in-command of the army; later he rid his cabinet of "Hamilton's spies"
(Chris: Who is Washington?)
(John: Who is Adams?)
(Alex: Which one?)
(John: [*].)
(Alex: Yes. Thank you.)

EGGING YOU ON $600: Bust out your español for this dish, fried corn tortillas topped with fried eggs & then a layer of salsa
[End-of-round signal sounds.]

MR. "T" $400: This frequent road-tripper created his own style of journalism

MR. "T" $800: This second emperor of Rome
was not as good as the first, who was Augustus.

ART & MYTHOLOGY $1200: (Kelly of the Clue Crew presents the clue.) In Botticelli's painting of Athena restraining a centaur, the interlocking rings on her clothing are a symbol of this family,
a member of which
commissioned the work

ART & MYTHOLOGY $400: (Alex presents the clue from the J. Paul Getty Museum.) Only a fraction of the paintings by this great Dutch master
depict scenes from mythology, but the Getty has one showing Jupiter in the guise of a bull
abducting Europa

MR. "T" $1200: Fast food chain founder seen here

CORRECT RESPONSES
(Thomas) Watson
John Mayer
Kodak
"The Emperor's New Clothes"
egg foo yung
Spain
Freakonomics
the Rhone
Isis
Orpheus
(Jeremy) Renner
solos
Samuel Tilden
Talleyrand
blithe
merry
crowds
Journey to the Center of the Earth
John Adams
huevos rancheros
Hunter S. Thompson
Tiberius
de Medici
Rembrandt
Dave Thomas

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Re: Thursday, October 16, 2014 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by jeff6286 » Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:06 pm

Literature
This title 1864 adventure is embarked upon by a descent into Iceland's Mount Sneffels.

SpoilerShow
What is Journey to the Center of the Earth? Jim said Heidi

John Campbell: $17,200+$1,800=$19,000...now a 2-day champion with $35,400
Jim Hamilton: $6,000-$2,400=$3,600
Chris Hoeh: $4,200+$4,200=$8,400
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Post by floridagator » Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:40 pm

For the first time in a while, no inept contestants who somehow got past screening. That doesn't mean they were equally matched today; far from it. John's delays in selecting a category are annoying, but his runaway was fun to watch.

Altogether the contestants didn't seem pleased with the DJ categories the way they kept jumping around them. And the rightmost contestant must have been annoyed that his run in the rightmost (single) J! category was interrupted for the commercial break.
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Post by Linear Gnome » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:03 pm

While I don't think the delay-of-game is unethical, it can still annoy me a lot.

Closed captioner got "hair" for "hare" in the H__E category. Then one of the election commercials complained about a candidate's "wreckless spending". (And I had to type that three times before it would let me write that.)

I had 8 FJ's in a row correct starting with 10/3, but I missed yesterday's and today's.

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Post by OSheaPunk » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:07 pm

John's stalling technique is really obnoxious.

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Post by econgator » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:35 pm

Linear Gnome wrote:While I don't think the delay-of-game is unethical, it can still annoy me a lot.
Why does everyone so far seem to have an issue with it? It's a fine tactic.

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Post by Abraxas » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:36 pm

John played another strong game. I got 34 clues correct including John Mayer, egg foo yung, Freakonomics, Blithe Spirit, The Merry Widow, and FJ.

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:37 pm

Lach Trash: Emperor's New Clothes (although I had to be careful not to say "Groove"), egg foo yung.

Got all but "Hose" in "H__E". Thought that was leagues more obscure than the others, and I'm stunned it wasn't a TS.

Should've run Fairy Tales, but I stupidly said "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" for "Little Red Riding Hood" and couldn't pull "Rumpelstiltskin" in time.

3/5 in Music. I know nothing about Good Charlotte or John Mayer other than that they exist. Also, that's at least the fourth clue they've had on Daft Punk. Blech.

Really? You just wanted "Kodak" on Inventive for $400? I get the feeling that the contestants overthought it like I did.

"Who the heck on TV is named Montana?!?" Derp. (Fun fact: My sister, thankfully, never got on the Miley bandwagon.)

DJ! didn't agree with me at all. My only gets were Dave Thomas and Happy Feet.

"Journey to the… nah, no way was that published in 1864. No way in Hell. Gotta be something else. Watch, it's gonna be something I've never heard of."
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Post by TenPoundHammer » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:44 pm

econgator wrote:
Linear Gnome wrote:While I don't think the delay-of-game is unethical, it can still annoy me a lot.
Why does everyone so far seem to have an issue with it? It's a fine tactic.
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Post by Linear Gnome » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:44 pm

econgator wrote:
Linear Gnome wrote:While I don't think the delay-of-game is unethical, it can still annoy me a lot.
Why does everyone so far seem to have an issue with it? It's a fine tactic.
Why am I not entitled to be annoyed by something that's a fine tactic, such as stalling or the Forrest bounce? (For the record, I'm less annoyed by the Forrest bounce than by stalling. Stalling tends to reduce the number of clues seen, which is automatically a strike against it from a viewer's perspective.)

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Post by silverscreentest » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:02 pm

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Post by mxc_takeshi » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:07 pm

33 right.

Hamilton- 5; Music- 2; Egging- 0; Fairy- 4; Think- 4; H_ _ E- 3
River- 3; Movie- 2; Book- 1; "T"- 5; Art- 2; Palindrome- 2

Lach trash: "Kodak", "Isis", "Samuel J. Tilden", "Talleyrand"

Instaget FJ. I thought descent= center of the earth, and knew Verne was around the right timeframe.

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Post by econgator » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:08 pm

Linear Gnome wrote:
econgator wrote:
Linear Gnome wrote:While I don't think the delay-of-game is unethical, it can still annoy me a lot.
Why does everyone so far seem to have an issue with it? It's a fine tactic.
Why am I not entitled to be annoyed by something that's a fine tactic, such as stalling or the Forrest bounce? (For the record, I'm less annoyed by the Forrest bounce than by stalling. Stalling tends to reduce the number of clues seen, which is automatically a strike against it from a viewer's perspective.)
Never said you weren't entitled to. I was just wondering why.

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Post by Ryno » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:11 pm

Well played game by John. It's interesting to see the true height of the contestants during the after game chat, since there is an adjustable platform behind the podium.

Lach Trash: John Mayer, Kodak, The Emporers New Clothes, Egg Foo Yung, Freakonomics, Jeremy Renner.

Instaget FJ. Over the the past few weeks I had focused on studying literature, so this time it paid off.
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Post by OSXpert » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:31 pm

I was stunned that the other two didn't get "The Emperor's New Clothes" after it was gifted to them.

The James Mason version of Journey to the Center of the Earth was one of my childhood favorites, so my mind jumped to it immediately.

I liked John's stalling technique; my girlfriend was pissed off by it.

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Post by mrparadise » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:39 pm

jeff6286 wrote:Literature
This title 1864 adventure is embarked upon by a descent into Iceland's Mount Sneffels.

SpoilerShow
What is Journey to the Center of the Earth? Jim said Heidi

John Campbell: $17,200+$1,800=$19,000...now a 2-day champion with $35,400
Jim Hamilton: $6,000-$2,400=$3,600
Chris Hoeh: $4,200+$4,200=$8,400

Jeff, Many thanks for getting FJ posted early. The Patriots are playing tonight, so J! was preempted on the Boston affilite for a Let's Go Pats! show (which usually preempts the Friday show). And last night's show was also pre-empted (not the Pats, Charlie Brown's Halloween or some damn thing).so I'm getting aggravated. Who do I call? God knows I love the Pats but can't they find another station?

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Post by Category 13 » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:43 pm

Linear Gnome wrote: Why am I not entitled to be annoyed by something that's a fine tactic, such as stalling or the Forrest bounce? (For the record, I'm less annoyed by the Forrest bounce than by stalling. Stalling tends to reduce the number of clues seen, which is automatically a strike against it from a viewer's perspective.)
Bingo.

Early in the rounds he is reasonably efficient in his clue selecting. Often just calling the dollar amount (thumbs up).
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Post by Bamaman » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:56 pm

Clever editing can negate the obvious stalling. It is legal, but dragging it out that much does not make for good viewing.

Instaget FJ for me. I considered 20,000 Leagues under the Sea (I think that is the right number), but going into a mountain eliminated that.

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Post by Category 13 » Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:01 pm

OSXpert wrote:I liked John's stalling technique; my girlfriend was pissed off by it.
I predict if he goes on any kind of a run, he will draw the wrath of irritated viewers in the same manner Arthur Chu fell into disfavor.

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