The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by seaborgium » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:13 am

Planes were first used in WWI. All you need to know. Get out of your own way.

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:14 am

seaborgium wrote:Planes were first used in WWI. All you need to know.
Which I didn't. And the clue didn't say that PLANES were first used, just that the corps was.
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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by seaborgium » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:15 am

TenPoundHammer wrote:
seaborgium wrote:Planes were first used in WWI. All you need to know.
Which I didn't. And the clue didn't say that PLANES were first used, just that the corps was.
Get out of your own way.

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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by TenPoundHammer » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:19 am

seaborgium wrote:
TenPoundHammer wrote:
seaborgium wrote:Planes were first used in WWI. All you need to know.
Which I didn't. And the clue didn't say that PLANES were first used, just that the corps was.
Get out of your own way.
"In 'Khaki Wings' a young British man courts danger by joining the fledgling Royal Flying Corps during this war."

That only says that the Royal Flying Corps was new. It does not say that using airplanes in war was!
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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by seaborgium » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:47 am

The British flew in WWI, the first major war after the birth of aviation. If you knew it, you got it. If you didn't, now you know.

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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by This Is Kirk! » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:47 am

TenPoundHammer wrote:
seaborgium wrote:
TenPoundHammer wrote:
seaborgium wrote:Planes were first used in WWI. All you need to know.
Which I didn't. And the clue didn't say that PLANES were first used, just that the corps was.
Get out of your own way.
"In 'Khaki Wings' a young British man courts danger by joining the fledgling Royal Flying Corps during this war."

That only says that the Royal Flying Corps was new. It does not say that using airplanes in war was!
Get out of your own way. :)

You're really making this way more complicated than it needs to be.

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Post by BobF » Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:47 am

TenPoundHammer wrote:Still unanswered from Monday:
TenPoundHammer wrote:WLT World War I?
The assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand, of course.
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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by snowdenscold » Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:42 am

TenPoundHammer wrote:
seaborgium wrote:
TenPoundHammer wrote:
seaborgium wrote:Planes were first used in WWI. All you need to know.
Which I didn't. And the clue didn't say that PLANES were first used, just that the corps was.
Get out of your own way.
"In 'Khaki Wings' a young British man courts danger by joining the fledgling Royal Flying Corps during this war."

That only says that the Royal Flying Corps was new. It does not say that using airplanes in war was!
Everyone else here thinks the inference was trivial (edit: no pun intended). You are the only one who disagrees...
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Post by Stanislaus Jacob » Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:42 am

BobF wrote:
TenPoundHammer wrote:Still unanswered from Monday:
TenPoundHammer wrote:WLT World War I?
The assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand, of course.
Ding ding! We have a winner! (Also, glad to see that someone can maintain his sense of humor here.)

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:43 am

snowdenscold wrote:
TenPoundHammer wrote:
seaborgium wrote:
TenPoundHammer wrote:
seaborgium wrote:Planes were first used in WWI. All you need to know.
Which I didn't. And the clue didn't say that PLANES were first used, just that the corps was.
Get out of your own way.
"In 'Khaki Wings' a young British man courts danger by joining the fledgling Royal Flying Corps during this war."

That only says that the Royal Flying Corps was new. It does not say that using airplanes in war was!
Everyone else here thinks the inference was trivial (edit: no pun intended). You are the only one who disagrees...
I still don't think it's as cut and dried as everyone else says it is. The clue only said that the Royal Flying Corps was new. For all I know, it could've been new in any war, and some other flying corps was used in WWI.
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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by Elijah Baley » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:43 am

TenPoundHammer wrote:
seaborgium wrote:
TenPoundHammer wrote:
seaborgium wrote:Planes were first used in WWI. All you need to know.
Which I didn't. And the clue didn't say that PLANES were first used, just that the corps was.
Get out of your own way.
"In 'Khaki Wings' a young British man courts danger by joining the fledgling Royal Flying Corps during this war."

That only says that the Royal Flying Corps was new. It does not say that using airplanes in war was!
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Post by 1stlvlthinker » Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:13 am

TenPoundHammer wrote:
I still don't think it's as cut and dried as everyone else says it is. The clue only said that the Royal Flying Corps was new. For all I know, it could've been new in any war, and some other flying corps was used in WWI.
Have you ever heard of Occam's Razor? If not, now would be a good time to look it up.
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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by seaborgium » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:43 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote: I still don't think it's as cut and dried as everyone else says it is. The clue only said that the Royal Flying Corps was new. For all I know, it could've been new in any war, and some other flying corps was used in WWI.
"For all I know"? Refresh my memory on why this thread exists.

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Post by BobF » Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:24 pm

1stlvlthinker wrote:
TenPoundHammer wrote:
I still don't think it's as cut and dried as everyone else says it is. The clue only said that the Royal Flying Corps was new. For all I know, it could've been new in any war, and some other flying corps was used in WWI.
Have you ever heard of Occam's Razor? If not, now would be a good time to look it up.
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Post by Volante » Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:32 pm

BobF wrote:
1stlvlthinker wrote:
TenPoundHammer wrote:
I still don't think it's as cut and dried as everyone else says it is. The clue only said that the Royal Flying Corps was new. For all I know, it could've been new in any war, and some other flying corps was used in WWI.
Have you ever heard of Occam's Razor? If not, now would be a good time to look it up.
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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by TenPoundHammer » Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:03 pm

1stlvlthinker wrote:
TenPoundHammer wrote:
I still don't think it's as cut and dried as everyone else says it is. The clue only said that the Royal Flying Corps was new. For all I know, it could've been new in any war, and some other flying corps was used in WWI.
Have you ever heard of Occam's Razor? If not, now would be a good time to look it up.
I have. And the simplest interpretation I had of that clue was "first war in which the Flying Corps was used." Which simplifies to "any war in the 20th or possibly 21st century" and no further.
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Post by Volante » Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:50 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:
1stlvlthinker wrote:
TenPoundHammer wrote:
I still don't think it's as cut and dried as everyone else says it is. The clue only said that the Royal Flying Corps was new. For all I know, it could've been new in any war, and some other flying corps was used in WWI.
Have you ever heard of Occam's Razor? If not, now would be a good time to look it up.
I have. And the simplest interpretation I had of that clue was "first war in which the Flying Corps was used." Which simplifies to "any war in the 20th or possibly 21st century" and no further.
Not sure if this is going to help or hurt, but after WW1, the RFC was turned into the Royal Air Force so the only war the RFC was ever involved in was WW1.
And yes, we know what the RAF is. They played a small role in WW2.

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Post by 1stlvlthinker » Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:44 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:
1stlvlthinker wrote:
TenPoundHammer wrote:
I still don't think it's as cut and dried as everyone else says it is. The clue only said that the Royal Flying Corps was new. For all I know, it could've been new in any war, and some other flying corps was used in WWI.
Have you ever heard of Occam's Razor? If not, now would be a good time to look it up.
I have. And the simplest interpretation I had of that clue was "first war in which the Flying Corps was used." Which simplifies to "any war in the 20th or possibly 21st century" and no further.
How about maybe "when were planes first used in a war?" That's as simple as it gets, absent other information.
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Post by Volante » Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:05 pm

1stlvlthinker wrote:
TenPoundHammer wrote:
1stlvlthinker wrote:
TenPoundHammer wrote:
I still don't think it's as cut and dried as everyone else says it is. The clue only said that the Royal Flying Corps was new. For all I know, it could've been new in any war, and some other flying corps was used in WWI.
Have you ever heard of Occam's Razor? If not, now would be a good time to look it up.
I have. And the simplest interpretation I had of that clue was "first war in which the Flying Corps was used." Which simplifies to "any war in the 20th or possibly 21st century" and no further.
How about maybe "when were planes first used in a war?" That's as simple as it gets, absent other information.
The biggest leap that TPH still needs to make is when we give responses, we're not actually responding to the clue as given.

"In 'Khaki Wings' a young British man courts danger by joining the fledgling Royal Flying Corps during this war."
I didn't answer "WW1" knowing the plot or even a summary of 'Khaki Wings' nor did I know it based on knowledge of the RFC, and it was only after this thread started I even realized they used RFC and not the RAF (it was "Royal flyers blah" in my head.)

Instead, I pick "planes, British, fledgling, war," turn it into "First war in which the British fought with planes," roll the dice with WW1 and figure the writers wouldn't trick me with the Bambatha Rebellion. Is there a slim chance the answer -is- Bambatha Rebellion? Yes (...well, no, the RFC didn't start until 1912 and Bambatha was in 1906...but for the sake of argument let's overlook that). I accept those odds as does every other player deciding on WW1 (without, again, explicit knowledge of Khaki Wings' plot or the origin of the RFC).

As an aside, I do like this thread because now I know a new word. Bambatha. Bam. Batha. Let's kick this Rebellion up a notch! BAM!batha.

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Post by MarkBarrett » Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:26 pm

Hey's it's your old buddy the South Island again. :)

OCEANIA $400: Mount Cook, not Mont Blanc, is the highest of the Southern these on New Zealand’s South Island

Mont Blanc like the Matterhorn is a famous peak in the Alps. In Europe. Yes, Zealand has Alps also. Who knew? Some yes, some no. No matter. You like help for the first box clues and the writers accommodated with the "Mont Blanc" portion of the clue.

A J! player will take the hint (if they don't already know the NZ geography well enough anyway) and collect the money.

It's not fun and no longer first box if the clue is:
Mount Cook is the highest of the Southern these on New Zealand’s South Island

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