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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by TenPoundHammer » Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:06 am

So is she from the US, or is there some other hint I'm missing?
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Post by seaborgium » Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:26 am

She was a gymnast for Team USA, although she was born in the USSR (and immigrated here after it broke up). I think Mark was just asking you a trollish trivia question. Why, I'm not sure.

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Post by MarkBarrett » Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:25 am

seaborgium wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:26 am
She was a gymnast for Team USA, although she was born in the USSR (and immigrated here after it broke up). I think Mark was just asking you a trollish trivia question. Why, I'm not sure.
I was just having a little fun although I did not anticipate it going off the rails as much as it did. With this thread I should know better.

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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by Peter the accountant » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:48 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:25 am
I did not anticipate it going off the rails as much as it did. With this thread I should know better.
This thread has no rails to go off. It has no roads. It's more like endless desert sands, where all evidence of having previously passed this way is quickly erased with with the passage of time. :) :D :lol:
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Post by dinghammer » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:46 am

Peter the accountant wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:48 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:25 am
I did not anticipate it going off the rails as much as it did. With this thread I should know better.
This thread has no rails to go off. It has no roads. It's more like endless desert sands, where all evidence of having previously passed this way is quickly erased with with the passage of time. :) :D :lol:
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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by MarkBarrett » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:05 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:48 pm

"Lord of the Flies" is a title I've heard a few times, but not enough to know what it is.

I did manage to get FJ! instantly.
Yeah a few:
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Jeopardy! Round, Double Jeopardy! Round, or Tiebreaker Round clues (52 results returned)
#7580, aired 2017-07-21 CLASSIC NOVELS $2000: In the first chapter of this dystopian novel, "I don't think so" is the answer to "Aren't there any grownups at all?"
#7319, aired 2016-06-09 PUNNY LITERARY TITLES $600: William Golding's fable of rendered hog fat for insects marooned on an island
#7218, aired 2016-01-20 BOOKS, "OF" ALL THINGS $800: Schoolboys divide up & kill
#7049, aired 2015-04-16 WELCOME TO MY HUT $800: Chapter 3 of this novel is "Huts on the Beach"--Ralph & Simon are building them & the other kids aren't helping
#6990, aired 2015-01-23 THE KIDS ARE NOT ALL RIGHT $1600: "Perhaps there aren't any grownups anywhere", says Ralph at the start of this 1954 novel
#6967, aired 2014-12-23 NOBEL PRIZE-WINNING AUTHORS $200: His experience teaching unruly boys helped inspire his book "Lord of the Flies"
#6754, aired 2014-01-16 A NOVEL CATEGORY $200: In this 1954 novel Jack tells the other boys, "We're not savages. We're English, and the English are best at everything"
#6586, aired 2013-04-15 BLOOD WORK $1,000 (Daily Double): A chant in this 1954 book goes, "Kill the pig, cut her throat, spill her blood"
#6524, aired 2013-01-17 TITLE CHANGES $600: William Golding: "Lord of the Dance"
#6443, aired 2012-09-26 LITERARY TABLOID HEADLINES $800: 1954: "Marooned & unsupervised schoolboys divide up & wage war"
#6398, aired 2012-06-13 UPDATING THE NOVEL $2000: "We'll track the cell phone signal of the chief choir boy, Jack Merridew. The lads will be off that island by supper"
#6368, aired 2012-05-02 BOOK LEARNIN' $400: British kids crash onto an uninhabited island in this William Golding novel; things get rough
#6360, aired 2012-04-20 BIBLICAL IDOL $1,200 (Daily Double): Also known as the Lord of the Flies, this god of Ekron was consulted by Ahaziah, King of Israel
#6327, aired 2012-03-06 THE BOOK'S TITLE IN GERMAN $1000: The island tale "Herr der Fliegen"
#6208, aired 2011-09-21 ENGLISH LITERATURE $1,500 (Daily Double): A line in this 1954 novel reads, "Ralph wept for the end of innocence, the darkness of man's heart"
#6166, aired 2011-06-06 WE'RE ANIMATED ABOUT BOOKS $600: It's about little kids, but not necessarily for little kids
#5998, aired 2010-10-13 FLIES & FLYING $1200: Jack kills a pig & Roger kills Piggy in this 1954 work
#5894, aired 2010-04-08 THE NOVEL'S FIRST DRAFT? $1000: "We're saved!" Piggy exclaimed to Ralph. "Looking back", Simon said, "We probably shouldn't have eaten Jack"
#5788, aired 2009-11-11 CLASSIC LIT $2000: Way before "Lost", this William Golding novel told of plane crash survivors on a deserted island
#5644, aired 2009-03-05 LITERARY CHARACTERS' E-MAILS $1000: To: (general island mailing). From: Asthmaboy. Subject: My name. I'm not happy with the "porcine" name you boys gave me
#5596, aired 2008-12-29 DO YOU KNOW JACK ABOUT LIT? $400: In this novel Jack Merridew, a red-haired choir boy, tells Piggy, "You're talking too much!"
#5527, aired 2008-09-23 BRITISH AUTHORS $1200: His first novel, "Lord of the Flies", was rejected by 21 publishers before Faber & Faber bought the book
#5389, aired 2008-01-31 NOVELS' FIRST LINES $800: Golding: "The boy with fair hair lowered himself down...and began to pick his way toward the lagoon"
#5265, aired 2007-06-29 MAROON 5 $400: Castle Rock in this novel is the fort where Jack bases his tribe; the conch is later shattered there

Final Jeopardy! Round clues (8 results returned)
#7490, aired 2017-03-17 20th CENTURY BOOKS: William Goldman asked his daughters what he should write about; they said these 2 things, which he combined
#7438, aired 2017-01-04 CLASSIC MOVIE ROLES: A letter to the director that said, "Dear sir, I am fat & wear spectacles" got a young actor a role in this 1963 film
#7403, aired 2016-11-16 FICTIONAL CHARACTERS' LAST WORDS: In a British novel this young character's last words are, "Which is better--to have rules & agree, or to hunt & kill?"
#6842, aired 2014-05-20 BRITISH NOVELS: Stephen King borrowed the name of his fictional town Castle Rock from this 1950s novel that greatly influenced him
#6467, aired 2012-10-30 20th CENTURY BOOKS: "A Cry of Children" & "Nightmare Island" were proposed titles for this novel
#6113, aired 2011-03-23 BRITISH NOVELISTS: In his journals he described how he once set 2 groups of boys against each other, likely inspiring his 1954 novel
#5145, aired 2007-01-12 LITERARY TITLES: This 1954 book title refers to an impaled sow's head, an offering to the "beast"
I did 2007 to the present. There's more.

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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by opusthepenguin » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:10 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:48 pm
"Lord of the Flies" is a title I've heard a few times, but not enough to know what it is.
You should definitely read it. I think you'd hate it.

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:13 pm

I think the problem is that, since they use it so often, there are SO MANY freaking TOMs for it, and I've never been able to pick up on any of the key words since there are just so many. Same thing with Hemingway.
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Post by MattKnowles » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:21 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:06 pm
Saw no way to figure out Louis XIV in the top box. That seemed completely opaque.
He was king for 72 years. He holds the record for longest reign of a European monarch.
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:06 pm
Also don't recognize "Dubliners" at all, nor any of those other book titles.
James Joyce wrote "Dubliners," "Ulysses," "Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man," and "Finnegan's Wake." They all come up very frequently.
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ALSO saw no way to figure out Picasso at $400. Didn't know he had periods.
Picasso's blue period: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picasso%27s_Blue_Period



Picasso's rose period: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picasso's_Rose_Period


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Post by TenPoundHammer » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:24 pm

MattKnowles wrote:
Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:21 pm
James Joyce wrote "Dubliners," "Ulysses," "Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man," and "Finnegan's Wake." They all come up very frequently.
I recognize all of the other non-Dubliners titles, but Ulysses is the only one I've ever pinned to Joyce.
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Post by opusthepenguin » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:34 pm

MattKnowles wrote:
Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:21 pm
James Joyce wrote "Dubliners," "Ulysses," "Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man," and "Finnegan's Wake." They all come up very frequently.
Finnegans Wake. No apostrophe. Just like Howards End.

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Post by MattKnowles » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:42 pm

opusthepenguin wrote:
Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:34 pm
MattKnowles wrote:
Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:21 pm
James Joyce wrote "Dubliners," "Ulysses," "Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man," and "Finnegan's Wake." They all come up very frequently.
Finnegans Wake. No apostrophe. Just like Howards End.
Thanks for the correction. It looks like it's too late to edit my original post. I learned two new things.
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Post by Bamaman » Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:02 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:48 pm

What was the TOM for Einstein on Museum for $400?
Oddly, the only U.S. museum devoted to this physicist is tucked inside a woolens shop in Princeton, New Jersey
Einstein was a physicist and taught at Princeton.

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Post by dhkendall » Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:52 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:
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These boards have been freaking impossible lately. HOW do they know any of this crap?!
Now you know how I feel when I watch your show.

(Not referring to your episode in particular, just Wheel as a whole. Man, you guys kick my ass. HOW do you know the right letters to call? (Seriously, I'm not trying to parody your response, it truly is baffling to me how good you guys are in the game!
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Post by MarkBarrett » Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:02 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:34 pm
Bastille was a prison? Never would've guessed that.

Don't recognize Gary Oldman's name at all, so I had that down as an 0/5 before any clues came up.
search.php?keywords=bastille&terms=all& ... mit=Search

A search of tenpoundhammer + oldman returned no results, so there's that at least.

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Post by MattKnowles » Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:57 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:34 pm
Saw no way to figure out what the beignet would be the donut of. Could be any state.
These ones look delicious:

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I knew the clue but I think I got it by browsing state symbols so maybe it wasn't an easy one. If it sounds French it might be a tease out for Louisiana.
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What was the TOM for oceanography at $400?
It was a category about a boat. The boat is called Boaty McBoatface. The science of studying the ocean is oceanography. I guess it's actually a submersible and not a boat but that's kind of tricky.
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Minipax = ministry of peace? No idea how you figure this out.
The book "1984" was famous for things being named in contrast to their true nature. The Ministry of Peace was in charge of war, the Ministry of Truth told a lot of lies. The tease out wasn't minipax but rather that the ministry was in charge of war. The clue writers expected the contestants to be familiar with the dystopian world setting.
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Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:34 pm
Also saw no way to figure out "Chopin" at $400.
Polish composer = Chopin
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Post by TenPoundHammer » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:02 am

Why does it feel like the boards have been WAY the hell harder of late? I had 0 right today. In the past couple weeks, it feels like I'm hitting far harder than usual clues in the $200 boxes.

Am I just plain dumbass at this point?
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Post by Ironhorse » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:08 am

MattKnowles wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:57 pm


The book "1984" was famous for things being named in contrast to their true nature. The Ministry of Peace was in charge of war, the Ministry of Truth told a lot of lies. The tease out wasn't minipax but rather that the ministry was in charge of war. The clue writers expected the contestants to be familiar with the dystopian world setting.
Although there is the additional teaseout in knowing that "pax" is Latin for "peace".
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Post by opusthepenguin » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:29 am

MattKnowles wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:57 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:34 pm
Saw no way to figure out what the beignet would be the donut of. Could be any state.
These ones look delicious:
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Yes they do, but that is NOT what's being referred to in the clue. THESE are beignets:

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Done well, they're puffy and light but not too light. Inside they're a latticework of air pockets and semi-moist dough. Perfect with a cup of coffee or hot chocolate.

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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by TenPoundHammer » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:40 am

Yeah, beignets ring not the faintest of bells for me. More super fancy food that no one outside a very specific demographic is ever going to know.
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