Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:48 pm
But I would only know that if I'd stumbled across the word "bristlecone" before.
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They're only the oldest living things on the planet...TenPoundHammer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:48 pm But I would only know that if I'd stumbled across the word "bristlecone" before.
Wait so when you asked for a citation you needed it to come from your own brain? Is MarkBarrett supposed to somehow know what in your head was supposed to lead you to the correct response? Do you think that's asking for too much? Do you think when you ask what led to the correct response that maybe the only way people can answer is with what led THEM to it? That's not enough? They have to give the answer from your point of view, despite not having shared the thoughts, memories, and experiences that have made up your life? I feel like maybe I've cracked open a severe flaw in this whole "What led to" operation. It just can't possibly work that way.TenPoundHammer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:48 pm But I would only know that if I'd stumbled across the word "bristlecone" before.
I meant, if I'd seen the word "bristlecone" before it was linked to me.jeff6286 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:06 pmWait so when you asked for a citation you needed it to come from your own brain?TenPoundHammer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:48 pm But I would only know that if I'd stumbled across the word "bristlecone" before.
No, more like in an "obvious to pretty much everyone other than TPH" kinda way.TenPoundHammer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:01 pmAgain with the "kinda sorta vaguely almost looks like a cognate if you squint at it" crap, huh?
It is our version of The Truman Show. We created Jeopardy so we could watch TPH's reactions with random "facts" only we know. Ken Jennings, Brad Rutter and the others are just paid actors.BigDaddyMatty wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:36 am You're right, man. The jig is up. There's just no way they can possibly expect anyone to know this crap. They've been feeding all of us the correct responses just to mess with you.
I'll say this again, you simultaneously think too much and think too little.TenPoundHammer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:13 pmUnless you don't know the history of popes. Some numbers have been skipped, so it's easy to go "well, Sixtus VI is blatant negbait, because why else would something that obvious be that far down the board? Must be IV or V."Bamaman wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:51 am Exactly. As seaborgium noted, there have been some screwy things related to pope names. But I would not expect them to answer us about an oddball situation where a name/number combo was skipped for some reason unless it had resulted in a huge story recently. So there not being a Sixtus VI should be obvious.
Most of the time. Except for the 87,349 times that it's totally backfired on me.1stlvlthinker wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:53 am Occam's Razor. If you're wrong, you're wrong, but being simple with this will get you the right answer most of the time.
Then don't ask people who it doesn't backfire on! It isn't going to be productive if nothing we say works for you because none of us are you!TenPoundHammer wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:43 pmMost of the time. Except for the 87,349 times that it's totally backfired on me.1stlvlthinker wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:53 am Occam's Razor. If you're wrong, you're wrong, but being simple with this will get you the right answer most of the time.
Okay, I'll bite. Let's keep track of the times that you have no idea what the answer is, and simple logic isn't the right answer. This is much better than just giving up and saying you have no idea.TenPoundHammer wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:43 pmMost of the time. Except for the 87,349 times that it's totally backfired on me.1stlvlthinker wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:53 am Occam's Razor. If you're wrong, you're wrong, but being simple with this will get you the right answer most of the time.
If you don't know the history of popes, you don't know about skipped regnal numbers, and you Occam's razor your way to the one that doesn't render either of the other two impossible. It's farther down on the board because hey, moon logic.TenPoundHammer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:13 pmUnless you don't know the history of popes. Some numbers have been skipped, so it's easy to go "well, Sixtus VI is blatant negbait, because why else would something that obvious be that far down the board? Must be IV or V."Bamaman wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:51 am Exactly. As seaborgium noted, there have been some screwy things related to pope names. But I would not expect them to answer us about an oddball situation where a name/number combo was skipped for some reason unless it had resulted in a huge story recently. So there not being a Sixtus VI should be obvious.
Knock, knock.seaborgium wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:31 pm I encountered the phrase "bristlecone pine" in Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator and have never forgotten it. I have also not forgotten that the U.S. President in that book is named Lancelot Gilligrass.
Or even if you don't know about skipped numbers, you still expect a trap, and thus think that VI is the wrong answer.seaborgium wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:24 pm If you don't know the history of popes, you don't know about skipped regnal numbers, and you Occam's razor your way to the one that doesn't render either of the other two impossible. It's farther down on the board because hey, moon logic.
Why are you -expecting- a trap, ever? Negbait is the exception, not the rule.TenPoundHammer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:03 pmOr even if you don't know about skipped numbers, you still expect a trap, and thus think that VI is the wrong answer.seaborgium wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:24 pm If you don't know the history of popes, you don't know about skipped regnal numbers, and you Occam's razor your way to the one that doesn't render either of the other two impossible. It's farther down on the board because hey, moon logic.
Once bitten, 900 times shy.Volante wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:26 pmWhy are you -expecting- a trap, ever? Negbait is the exception, not the rule.TenPoundHammer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:03 pmOr even if you don't know about skipped numbers, you still expect a trap, and thus think that VI is the wrong answer.seaborgium wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:24 pm If you don't know the history of popes, you don't know about skipped regnal numbers, and you Occam's razor your way to the one that doesn't render either of the other two impossible. It's farther down on the board because hey, moon logic.