The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by alietr » Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:31 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:57 pm
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Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:46 pm
I'm guessing you don't watch The Simpsons, or you'd be very aware of Harrison's term. https://youtu.be/r8N7BSsU5oo
Well, that was only slightly less painful than getting a colonoscopy from Wolverine...
You can at least be grateful to someone who tried to help you instead of condescending.

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Post by CasketRomance » Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:22 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:57 pm
mungar wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:46 pm
I'm guessing you don't watch The Simpsons, or you'd be very aware of Harrison's term. https://youtu.be/r8N7BSsU5oo
Well, that was only slightly less painful than getting a colonoscopy from Wolverine...
i will say the simpsons do suck, but you don't have to be an ingrate to someone that is trying to help you, hammer dude

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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by twelvefootboy » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:39 pm

CasketRomance wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:22 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:57 pm
mungar wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:46 pm
I'm guessing you don't watch The Simpsons, or you'd be very aware of Harrison's term. https://youtu.be/r8N7BSsU5oo
Well, that was only slightly less painful than getting a colonoscopy from Wolverine...
i will say the simpsons do suck, but you don't have to be an ingrate to someone that is trying to help you, hammer dude
I liked it, and if I understand it there's Tyler, there's Taylor, there's Fillmore and there's Hayes, and WHH who died in 30 days. That helps me (a little), although not as much as looking at a list. And I think it isn't comprehensive enough, what about Polk, Garfield, and Arthur? Or Harding, Nixon, and Trump to keep a theme going?
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Post by mas3cf » Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:50 pm

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Okay, so that marquee names presidents, what does that have to do with actors?

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Post by MarkBarrett » Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:36 pm

You got the WoF clue trash; don't worry about the rest. The dreaded FJ! scale of correct response on one side and nothing on the other side. The side with no weight wins again.

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Post by brick » Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:12 pm

twelvefootboy wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:39 pm
CasketRomance wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:22 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:57 pm
mungar wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:46 pm
I'm guessing you don't watch The Simpsons, or you'd be very aware of Harrison's term. https://youtu.be/r8N7BSsU5oo
Well, that was only slightly less painful than getting a colonoscopy from Wolverine...
i will say the simpsons do suck, but you don't have to be an ingrate to someone that is trying to help you, hammer dude
I liked it, and if I understand it there's Tyler, there's Taylor, there's Fillmore and there's Hayes, and WHH who died in 30 days. That helps me (a little), although not as much as looking at a list. And I think it isn't comprehensive enough, what about Polk, Garfield, and Arthur? Or Harding, Nixon, and Trump to keep a theme going?
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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by trainman » Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:31 am

brick wrote:
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Matt Groening is a genius and you are monsters!
James L. Brooks and Sam Simon are probably more responsible for making "The Simpsons" into "The Simpsons" than Matt Groening was.

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Post by CasketRomance » Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:58 pm

trainman wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:31 am
brick wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:12 pm
Matt Groening is a genius and you are monsters!
James L. Brooks and Sam Simon are probably more responsible for making "The Simpsons" into "The Simpsons" than Matt Groening was.
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Post by TenPoundHammer » Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:24 pm

My high school library actually had a Life in Hell book. I think I can safely say that Matt Groening's style just doesn't appeal to me.
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Post by This Is Kirk! » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:00 am

Saw absolutely no way to figure out this FJ! whatsoever. What was the tipoff?
French museum and the year. Impressionism was largely a French art movement and it originated in the 1870s.

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Post by alietr » Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:49 am

This Is Kirk! wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:00 am
Saw absolutely no way to figure out this FJ! whatsoever. What was the tipoff?
French museum and the year. Impressionism was largely a French art movement and it originated in the 1870s.
And Impressionism was considered radical at the time by the art world establishment, hence why it took so long for an Impressionist piece to hang in a museum.

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Post by twelvefootboy » Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:28 am

alietr wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:49 am
This Is Kirk! wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:00 am
Saw absolutely no way to figure out this FJ! whatsoever. What was the tipoff?
French museum and the year. Impressionism was largely a French art movement and it originated in the 1870s.
And Impressionism was considered radical at the time by the art world establishment, hence why it took so long for an Impressionist piece to hang in a museum.
My take on the whole "movement" dealio with art is that the new fangled photography changed the landscape so much that you couldn't make a living replicating people's image for vanity or posterity. So, you invent alternative universes that may or may not require art skills and voila - a ma$terpiece.

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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by TenPoundHammer » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:01 pm

alietr wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:49 am
This Is Kirk! wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:00 am
Saw absolutely no way to figure out this FJ! whatsoever. What was the tipoff?
French museum and the year. Impressionism was largely a French art movement and it originated in the 1870s.
And Impressionism was considered radical at the time by the art world establishment, hence why it took so long for an Impressionist piece to hang in a museum.
And literally none of this was in my brain, hence my blank screen on this one.
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Post by TenPoundHammer » Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:56 pm

December 19, 2018:
(x + 1)^2 expands to this
FOIL method was mentioned. FOIL is (A+B)(C+D) = AC+AD+BC+BD.

But there's no D in this problem at all, so it can't be FOIL'd, can it?
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Post by Volante » Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:04 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:56 pm
December 19, 2018:
(x + 1)^2 expands to this
FOIL method was mentioned. FOIL is (A+B)(C+D) = AC+AD+BC+BD.

But there's no D in this problem at all, so it can't be FOIL'd, can it?
*pours shot*

But there is a D. ^2 is shorthand for multiplying that by itself, so you end up with the following:

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(x+1)(x+1) => x*x + x*1 + 1*x + 1*1
(A+B)(C+D) => A*C + A*D + B*C + B*D
And the top line further reduces to x^2+2x+1 since you can add the two 'x's together

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Post by econgator » Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:25 pm

Hell, you can use FOIL to multiply two-digit numbers:

34x12= (30x10)+(30x2)+(4x10)+(4x2)=300+60+40+8=408

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Post by talkingaway » Sun Dec 29, 2019 5:36 pm

econgator wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:25 pm
Hell, you can use FOIL to multiply two-digit numbers:

34x12= (30x10)+(30x2)+(4x10)+(4x2)=300+60+40+8=408
In fact, FOIL (aka the distributive property) is why the multiplication algorithm you learn in third grade works.

Technically, I always used “FOIL” incorrectly - I expanded its meaning to any use of the distributive property of multiplication over addition, like (a+b+c)(d+e). Technically you can’t FOIL that directly - well, you can, but you’d have to clump b with either a or c, and the use the distributive property again.

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Post by 1stlvlthinker » Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:14 pm

talkingaway wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 5:36 pm
econgator wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:25 pm
Hell, you can use FOIL to multiply two-digit numbers:

34x12= (30x10)+(30x2)+(4x10)+(4x2)=300+60+40+8=408
In fact, FOIL (aka the distributive property) is why the multiplication algorithm you learn in third grade works.

Technically, I always used “FOIL” incorrectly - I expanded its meaning to any use of the distributive property of multiplication over addition, like (a+b+c)(d+e). Technically you can’t FOIL that directly - well, you can, but you’d have to clump b with either a or c, and the use the distributive property again.
As a former math teacher, I'm a little peeved that we reduce this to an algorithm in the 3rd grade. If we taught multi-digit multiplication with this method, students would find algebra easier.

An expanded example:

347 x 12:
347 breaks down to 300 + 40 + 7 (that shouldn't surprise anyone), and 12 breaks down to 10 + 2. (This is the same as 3 x 10^2 + 4 x 10^1 + 7 x 10^0 which might be important later).
It's tough to diagram this out in text (Edit: Apparenly J Board shrinks whitespace?), but in high school, I "retaught" multiplication this way:
300 40 7
----------------------
10 | | |
---------------------
2 | | |
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This becomes a series of 6 easier multiplication steps, then you add them all up to get the final answer.

300 40 7
----------------------
10| 3000| 400| 70
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2 |600 | 80 |14
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This becomes 3000+400+600+70+80+14, a visually easier to grasp way of doing it.

We need to teach understanding, not just algorithms at the lower levels.

Somewhat unrealted, not every place does their algorithms the same way. When I was showing long division, my interpreter from Peru, who has a master's degree, coudln't understand it initially since she was taught differently.
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