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Thursday, June 4, 2015 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:30 am

Game Recap for Show #7084, 2015-06-04

CONTESTANTS
Jenny Orr, an attorney from Cleveland, Ohio
Addison Godel, a Ph.D. student in architectural history from Brooklyn, New York
Jami Griffeth, a character trainer originally from Lindenhurst, Illinois (whose 1-day cash winnings total $11,000)

OPENING REMARKS
Alex: Thank you. As you just heard, Jami, our returning champion, is a character trainer. She works only with characters who have four fingers. Addison and Jenny, good to have you with us today. Pick up those signaling devices, all three of you, because you go to work now in the Jeopardy! Round. And we go to work by revealing these categories...

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
HOW TO DRAIN YOUR FLAGON (4/5)
WRITERS FIRST NAME'S THE SAME (5/5)
"ICE" PACK (5/5)
SOURCE OF THE LATE NIGHT BIT (5/5) (Alex: You name the late night host who is responsible for those bits.)
FUN WITH COLORS (4/5)
THE SOUTH PACIFIC (3/5, including 1 missed Daily Double)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Jenny: 10 R, 1 W
Addison: 10 R, 2 W (including 1 DD)
Jami: 6 R, 1 W

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 3
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $2,000



SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
Jenny: $2,800
Addison: $2,400
Jami: $2,000

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Alex: Jenny Orr is an attorney from Cleveland, Ohio. Once spent the entire night in the New York City Library. I'm going to assume it was an accident or something.

Jenny: It actually was intentional.

Alex: It was?

Jenny: Um, for their 100th anniversary, they had this program called Find the Future where they selected some people. They locked us in overnight, and we had a scavenger hunt where we, like, went to different, like, famous things that they have in the library and ended up writing essays on those that they put into a book, which you now can actually go and look at the library. It'll be there.

Alex: I see, okay. Good.




Alex: Addison Godel is, uh, a Ph.D. student in architectural history from Brooklyn, New York. Architectural history.

Addison: Yes.

Alex: Which period? Which architectural style--

Addison: Whew! [Chuckles]

Alex: --is your favorite?

Addison: That's really tough. I've mostly lately been working on post-war American architecture, which is usually everybody's least favorite.

Alex: Which war?

Addison: Uh, post-World War II.

Alex: Uh-huh.

Addison: Um, particularly, I've been working on, uh, Ma Bell's telephone exchanges from the 1960s, which is a thrilling subject to anybody, uh, thinking about getting into architectural history.

Alex: I was about to say, though, the '50s were not really great in architecture style.

Addison: Oh, that's crazy talk. It's the--

Alex: It is?

Addison: It's a land of bountiful possibility--

Alex: It is?

Addison: Well, to architectural history students, it is. But probably not to the general public.

Alex: Okay, good. Well, I'm part of the general public.




Alex: Jami Griffeth is our champion. She is from Illinois. And she works with characters now, but met her husband through a different form of entertainment--in theater.

Jami: In theater, yeah, um--

Alex: Were you both performers?

Jami: Uh, no, actually. He was, um, we--we did, um, productions in a, uh, professional non-equity theater. He was the sound guy--

Alex: Mm-hmm.

Jami: --and I was a performer. So, he... turned me on.

[Laughter]

[Alex looks into the camera, smiles, nods, gives a gesture with his hand and thumb that looks like a ring-in on a signaling device, then sticks his hand up in a "stop" gesture and puts a finger to his lips in a "sh!" gesture.]

[Jami laughs]

JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Addison found the Daily Double on the 25th clue. Jami had $2,200, Addison had $3,800, and Jenny was at $4,400. Addison wagered $2,000.

THE SOUTH PACIFIC $1000: (Sarah of the Clue Crew reports from the South Pacific.) These stone statues seen throughout the islands may represent deified ancestors in Tahitian mythology & are often placed outside of temples as protection
(Addison: [Exhales] Um... what are idols?)
(Alex: No, what are [*]?)
(Addison: Oh!)
(Alex: [*].)
(Addison: Of course.)
(Alex: Well, Sarah obviously had a good time in Tahiti. Our thanks to Lindblad Expeditions and our friend Sven Lindblad.)

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
HOW TO DRAIN YOUR FLAGON $600: The two most popular types of port are the tawny & this sweeter one named for its color
(Jami: What is claret?)
(Addison: What is Burgundy?)

FUN WITH COLORS $1000: A great horned owl has large eyes with irises of this color, which helps amplify incoming light

THE SOUTH PACIFIC $400: (Sarah of the Clue Crew reports from the South Pacific, wearing flowers on her head and around her neck.) As in Hawaii, flowers are a symbol of welcome in this capital of Tahiti
(Jenny: What is Suva?)

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
Jenny: $5,200
Addison: $4,000
Jami: $2,200

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Re: Thursday, June 4, 2015 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:30 am

DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
SAME FIRST & LAST LETTER (4/5)
MYTHOLOGY (3/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
IN SO MANY WORDS (4/5)
LET'S DUKE IT OUT (3/5, including 1 missed Daily Double)
A FIFTH OF (COLIN) FIRTH (3/3)
GEOGRAPH-"E" (5/5) (Alex: That "E" will come at the end of each correct response.)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Addison: 16 R (including 1 rebound and 1 DD), 1 W (including 1 DD)
Jami: 3 R, 1 W
Jenny: 3 R, 1 W

Clues revealed: 28
Triple Stumpers: 5
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $8,000



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Addison snagged the next Daily Double on the 8th clue. Jami had $2,200, Addison had $10,000, and Jenny was at $6,000. Addison wagered $4,000.

MYTHOLOGY $1200: This Egyptian god's evil brother Set tricked him into lying down in a box that was thrown into the river
(Alex: Don't you love it when you're able to drag some important bit of information out of thin air?)
(Addison: They're--they're out there, somewhere.)
(Alex: They are!)
(Addison: Um, MYTHOLOGY--)
(Alex: We--we have our own Jeopardy! cloud up there somewhere. Pick again.)

SECOND DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
It was Addison who snatched up the last Daily Double of the game on the 19th clue. Jami had $600, Addison had $22,400, and Jenny was at $4,000. Addison wagered $4,000.

LET'S DUKE IT OUT $1600: The Duke of Northumberland (1504-1553) arranged for his son to marry this unfortunate lady in 1553; oops
(Addison: [Whispers] Unfortunate lady... [Exhales] Who is... Bloody Mary?)
(Alex: No, who is [*]? [*].)
(Addison: [Whispers] Of course.)
(Alex: All right, the cloud was not accessible this time.)
(Addison: No, no, see, it--)
(Alex: Go again.)
(Addison: There's some weather patterns up here.)

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
MYTHOLOGY $400: Norse goddesses called norns include 3 who decide men's fates, each in charge of one of these 3 aspects of time

MYTHOLOGY $2000: The Romans equated this god with the Norse god Wotan; both lent their names to the same day of the week
(Jenny: What is Tuesday?)
...
(Alex: We're going for the Roman god. The French word for Wednesday is mercredi. So the god is [*]. Back to you, Addison.)

SAME FIRST & LAST LETTER $1600: It's a German word for a beer hall, often in a basement

LET'S DUKE IT OUT $2000: Henry IV was just Henry Bolingbroke, Duke of Hereford, when he pushed this cousin off his throne

IN SO MANY WORDS $2000: One word:
The motto of ever-optimistic Rhode Island

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
Addison: $20,400 (lock game)
Jenny: $6,400
Jami: $4,200

PREFINAL REMARKS
(Before the Final Jeopardy! Round, Sarah Whitcomb Foss of the Jeopardy! Clue Crew delivers a Footnote about the travel sponsor's work.)
National Geographic's Pristine Seas project is exploring and helping to protect some of the last wild places in the ocean. The team conducts expeditions, research, and produces stories about amazing locations like this, inspiring leaders to create marine reserves so that future generations can experience these magical places.

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
NOTORIOUS 20th CENTURY NAMES

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
Lock for first place; crush for second place.
Addison: Wager between $0 (venusian) and $7,599 (martian), and enjoy your victory.
Jenny: Wager $2,001 to cover Jami.
Jami: You have the hope of surpassing Jenny for second place if you come up with the correct response or if your opponent fails to. Bet between $200 and $4,198.

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
Morton Sobell, a co-defendant with these 2, was also convicted but received a lighter sentence: 30 years in prison

FINAL SCORES
Jami: $4,200 - $3,200 = $1,000 (Who were Sacco and Vanzetti) (3rd place)
Jenny: $6,400 - $2,001 = $4,399 (Who are Sacco + Vanzetti?) (2nd place)
Addison: $20,400 + $4,000 = $24,400 (Who are the Rosenbergs?) (New champion: $24,400)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $10,000

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
Addison: $23,600, 26 R (including 1 DD), 3 W (including 2 DDs)
Jenny: $6,400, 13 R, 2 W
Jami: $4,200, 9 R, 2 W
Combined Coryat: $34,200

BATTING AVERAGES
Addison: 27/61 = .443
Jenny: 13/58 = .224
Jami: 9/58 = .155
Team: 49/63 = .778

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
THE SOUTH PACIFIC $200: (Sarah of the Clue Crew reports from off the coast of Mangareva Island.) Mangareva Island was part of a volcano that blew its top & collapsed, allowing a lagoon to form in this central part of the volcano, Spanish for cauldron

THE SOUTH PACIFIC $600: (Sarah of the Clue Crew reports from off the coast of Bora Bora.) The wide-spreading fins of this ray that's common in Polynesian waters led to its name, a Spanish word for blanket

THE SOUTH PACIFIC $800: (Sarah of the Clue Crew reports from Tahiti.) In 1891, this artist left France seeking a tropical paradise where he could paint and live on fish & fruit; he eventually arrived in Tahiti, living in a bamboo hut near here where he painted the sea, the landscape & the people around him

GEOGRAPH-"E" $2000: A deep ravine or gulch, like the one mentioned in the name of a water impeder in Washington State
(Alex: The Grand [*] Dam.)

MYTHOLOGY $1600: Athena gave this Gorgon slayer a shield to use as a mirror when confronting Medusa
(Jami: Hercules? Who is Hercules?)

SAME FIRST & LAST LETTER $2000: Not only are the three inner circles congruent, they're also this trig term to each other

IN SO MANY WORDS $800: 5 words:
2002 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame inductees seen here
(Alex: With less than a minute to go, you are right.)

A FIFTH OF (COLIN) FIRTH $1600: Colin Firth played Vermeer in this film with the name of a Vermeer painting
[The end-of-round signal sounds.]

CORRECT RESPONSES
tikis
ruby
yellow
Papeete
Osiris
Lady Jane Grey
past, present, future
Mercury
Ratskeller
Richard II
"Hope"
Julius & Ethel Rosenberg
caldera
manta
Gauguin
a coulee
Perseus
tangent
Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers
The Girl with the Pearl Earring

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Re: Thursday, June 4, 2015 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by jeff6286 » Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:25 pm

Notorious 20th Century Names
Morton Sobell, a co-defendant with these 2, was also convicted but received a lighter sentence: 30 years in prison.

SpoilerShow
Who are Julius and Ethel Rosenberg? Jami and Jenny both said Sacco and Vanzetti.

Addison Godel: $20,400+$4,000=$24,400...now a 1-day champion with $24,400
Jenny Orr: $6,400-$2,001=$4,399
Jami Griffith: $4,200-$3,200=$1,000
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Re: Thursday, June 4, 2015 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by dhkendall » Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:01 pm

When Alex said there was two choices to choose from and he ruled Sacco & Vanzetti wrong, I was quite pleased. Until Addison's answer came up.

I guess there was more than two choices because I thought my Leopold & Loeb was a perfectly cromulent response.

Props to Addison, though, dude played well. Whole game had a great feel to it imho.
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Post by opusthepenguin » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:18 pm

So just how happy is Sarah McNitt right now? Keith Williams, you're done!!!!

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:27 pm

Johnny's intro of Alex sounded really weak today. Was he done in post?

17 in J! but only 2 in DJ!, both in Same First and Last Letter.

Ran "Ice" Pack.

Interestingly, the only two South Pacific clues I got both had "Spanish for" in them.

Any reason I should know that Freestylin' with the Roots = Fallon?

I'm glad I wasn't the only one totally baffled by "three aspects of time". Hour? Era? No, none of those are part of a trio. What do they want?!?

"Well, a letter in quotes means 'begins with', but 'arctic circle' doesn't begin with E!" That kept tripping me up, and I skunked the category partially as a result.

WLT Spain, "because it's there", or Pride & Prejudice at $400?

No guess on FJ! NHO either the correct response or the incorrect response given by the other two.
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Post by econgator » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:29 pm

dhkendall wrote:When Alex said there was two choices to choose from and he ruled Sacco & Vanzetti wrong, I was quite pleased. Until Addison's answer came up.

I guess there was more than two choices because I thought my Leopold & Loeb was a perfectly cromulent response.
I never thought of S&V (and probably would have discounted them if I did). My two choices were Leopold and Loeb and the Rosenbergs. I came down on the right side of the guess.

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Post by floridagator » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:29 pm

Addison turned it into a runaway early in DJ, but he doesn't seem like a strong contestant. He rarely seems sure about his answers and there's nothing at all endearing about how long he takes to state them. I notice that he didn't come up with the first names of the executed traitors in FJ and no one who mattered seemed to mind. He was lucky to have two weak opponents today.

Me, I had Julius & Ethel Rosenberg written down, and I also got the TSS Papeete (which I pronounced puh-PETE), past/present/future, and rathskeller.
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Post by econgator » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:31 pm

floridagator wrote:I notice that he didn't come up with the first names of the executed traitors in FJ
They aren't required, so why would he?

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Post by OSXpert » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:31 pm

Yeah, I felt pretty confident about Leopold and Loeb after he said there were only two possible choices and the first one was wrong...

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Post by Golf » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:33 pm

opusthepenguin wrote:So just how happy is Sarah McNitt right now? Keith Williams, you're done!!!!
He made three $4k wagers, and they all sucked. His knowledge and buzzer timing was excellent though.

Challenger on the right seemed to understand where she was in the game and tried to do something about it to no avail. Unlike the returning champ.

I immediately thought of both S&V and the Rosenbergs, but quickly went with S&V because the clue seemed (in my mind) to eliminate a couple.
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Post by Abraxas » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:33 pm

Addison played a strong game. I had 37 correct responses including four triple stumpers: ruby, Papeete, past/present/future, and rathskeller. I guessed Sacco & Vanzetti for FJ.

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Post by Leander » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:50 pm

Briefly considered S&V, but the Sobell name rang a bell in connection with the Rosenbergs, so I went with it. Never though of L&L.

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Post by hscer » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:56 pm

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Post by sarisson » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:56 pm

dhkendall wrote: I guess there was more than two choices because I thought my Leopold & Loeb was a perfectly cromulent response.
I hope you didn't embiggen your wager to all but $1!

This was a strange game for me. I had 24/30 in the first round but 11/28 in DJ, with a Coryat of $25000. IMO, Papeete was way undervalued at $400. That and "tiki" should've had their clue values switched. I ran that category only because I've been to French Polynesia.
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Post by Spaceman Spiff » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:58 pm

dhkendall wrote:When Alex said there was two choices to choose from and he ruled Sacco & Vanzetti wrong, I was quite pleased. Until Addison's answer came up.

I guess there was more than two choices because I thought my Leopold & Loeb was a perfectly cromulent response.

Props to Addison, though, dude played well. Whole game had a great feel to it imho.
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Post by StevenH » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:00 pm

I thought that this was a very hard board. "Capital of Tahiti" seems like a bottom of the board clue to me, not a second row clue.

I had no idea on FJ. I was thinking more in terms of gangsters and outlaws, but I couldn't think of any pair from that category who would fit the clue.

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Post by squizzle » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:00 pm

Anybody else notice this:

Tuesday: Final Jeopardy clue on assassin of Garfield
Wednesday: Clue on John Wilkes Booth
Thursday: Clue referencing the widowed Mrs. McKinley

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I know it's probably nothing, but I'll be interested to see if Kennedy's assassination or Lee Harvey Oswald comes up tomorrow.

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Post by 9021amyers » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:07 pm

The final clue wouldn't refer to Leopold and Loeb because neither man was sentenced to death for their crimes. Loeb died in a prison fight, but Leopold was ultimately released in middle age and later moved to Puerto Rico. It helps that they had Clarence Darrow on their side.

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Post by Category 13 » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:19 pm

econgator wrote:
dhkendall wrote:When Alex said there was two choices to choose from and he ruled Sacco & Vanzetti wrong, I was quite pleased. Until Addison's answer came up.

I guess there was more than two choices because I thought my Leopold & Loeb was a perfectly cromulent response.
I never thought of S&V (and probably would have discounted them if I did). My two choices were Leopold and Loeb and the Rosenbergs.
I guess there wasn't a third person involved with Erik and Lyle Menendez. :D

Actually, my Dad blurted out the correct answer as soon as the clue was read so I had no chance to see if I could come up with it on my own.

Sorry to see Jami have to go so soon. She had a very pleasant personality.
Addison is every bit of a nice chap himself, so if someone had to replace Jami, I'm glad it was him. Just don't keep encouraging AT to ad-lib between clues.

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