I don't think the wager from first was terrible. Once Jonathan had committed to making a shutout bet, he was going to drop below Melissa on a miss anyway. He pretty much has to get FJ right to win, so why not bet it all? The only other way to make a shutout bet and win on a miss is if BOTH opponents over-wager. As things turned out, only one of them did. The other drastically UNDER-wagered. Still, I agree he should have provided for the possibility of two over-wagers and made the minimum shutout bet. Since he didn't, he gets an extra $999.pastor_dave wrote:Not much discussion about the FJ wagers, which were pretty bad, although the 3rd place wager was made good by the other two.
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Or Jawaharotflolmao.Austin Powers wrote:So the reason Alex asked for Nehru's first name... lol... is that the school is called JNU - that is, it's usually referenced by referencing the full name. I think the wording of the question really pointed toward the person, but as with yesterday the show couldn't decide if it wanted a person or an object. Except in this case we didn't have someone spell the answer as Jawaharlabe.
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Another game with an overly cautious wager on a second row DD late in the game. SMH.
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opusthepenguin wrote: When Melissa's wager was revealed, I went
Then Suzanne's wager was revealed and I went
Melissa basically threw away any chance at winning and then Suzanne handed it right back to her.
Penguins can type tremendously but they sure can't do math.opusthepenguin wrote: I don't think the wager from first was terrible. Once Jonathan had committed to making a shutout bet, he was going to drop below Melissa on a miss anyway. He pretty much has to get FJ right to win, so why not bet it all? The only other way to make a shutout bet and win on a miss is if BOTH opponents over-wager. As things turned out, only one of them did. The other drastically UNDER-wagered. Still, I agree he should have provided for the possibility of two over-wagers and made the minimum shutout bet. Since he didn't, he gets an extra $999.
Melissa's wager was good. Suzanne and Jonathan's were dreadful. Any wagering viking could tell you that within half a second. Simple and oft repeated situations we've discussed countless times.
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Probably a Mad Men in there, too.opusthepenguin wrote: Good catch. And good call, Austin. I'm still expecting an OItNB FJ next season. And at least two Breaking Bad FJs. But I'm going to go out on a limb and say the clues won't involve Helen Keller.
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Why did you like Melissa's wager? If Suzanne makes the proper cover wager of $2,001, Melissa is doomed with her zero bet.Golf wrote:opusthepenguin wrote: When Melissa's wager was revealed, I went
Then Suzanne's wager was revealed and I went
Melissa basically threw away any chance at winning and then Suzanne handed it right back to her.Penguins can type tremendously but they sure can't do math.opusthepenguin wrote: I don't think the wager from first was terrible. Once Jonathan had committed to making a shutout bet, he was going to drop below Melissa on a miss anyway. He pretty much has to get FJ right to win, so why not bet it all? The only other way to make a shutout bet and win on a miss is if BOTH opponents over-wager. As things turned out, only one of them did. The other drastically UNDER-wagered. Still, I agree he should have provided for the possibility of two over-wagers and made the minimum shutout bet. Since he didn't, he gets an extra $999.
Melissa's wager was good. Suzanne and Jonathan's were dreadful. Any wagering viking could tell you that within half a second. Simple and oft repeated situations we've discussed countless times.
My only problem with Jonathan's wager is that he can't win at all on a miss. Yes, he should be out anyway, but the best move from the lead is the MSB and not a penny more.
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I made my best attempt at Nehru's first name, but did not quite get there.
FJ:
Pavlovs: 7/7
Keyword: New Zealand fruit = a kiwi
Keyword: Confederate president = Jefferson Davis
Quote: Love Will Keep Us Together = Tennille
Keyword: Total Eclipse = Bonnie Tyler (response starts with "t")
Name: Cymru = Wales
Keyword: Montreal university = McGill
Keyword: skewers = shish kebab (response is 5,5)
I made my best attempt at Nehru's first name, but did not quite get there.
FJ:
Pavlovs: 7/7
Keyword: New Zealand fruit = a kiwi
Keyword: Confederate president = Jefferson Davis
Quote: Love Will Keep Us Together = Tennille
Keyword: Total Eclipse = Bonnie Tyler (response starts with "t")
Name: Cymru = Wales
Keyword: Montreal university = McGill
Keyword: skewers = shish kebab (response is 5,5)
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Re: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]
Sure if Suzanne makes the proper wager Melissa is doomed, but how often does a contestant wager properly from second?Bamaman wrote:Why did you like Melissa's wager? If Suzanne makes the proper cover wager of $2,001, Melissa is doomed with her zero bet.Golf wrote:opusthepenguin wrote: When Melissa's wager was revealed, I went
Then Suzanne's wager was revealed and I went
Melissa basically threw away any chance at winning and then Suzanne handed it right back to her.Penguins can type tremendously but they sure can't do math.opusthepenguin wrote: I don't think the wager from first was terrible. Once Jonathan had committed to making a shutout bet, he was going to drop below Melissa on a miss anyway. He pretty much has to get FJ right to win, so why not bet it all? The only other way to make a shutout bet and win on a miss is if BOTH opponents over-wager. As things turned out, only one of them did. The other drastically UNDER-wagered. Still, I agree he should have provided for the possibility of two over-wagers and made the minimum shutout bet. Since he didn't, he gets an extra $999.
Melissa's wager was good. Suzanne and Jonathan's were dreadful. Any wagering viking could tell you that within half a second. Simple and oft repeated situations we've discussed countless times.
My only problem with Jonathan's wager is that he can't win at all on a miss. Yes, he should be out anyway, but the best move from the lead is the MSB and not a penny more.
Or, ask yourself this, which is more likely, a WWR FJ scenario where the last place contestant has the only right answer. Or a WWW scenario where 2nd makes the suicide wager?
That being said, if the FJ category is a wheelhouse for third, I've no issue with betting it all to avoid being shutout by a proper wager from second.
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Golfs can dish it out but they sure can't take it or admit when they're wrong.Golf wrote:Penguins can type tremendously but they sure can't do math.opusthepenguin wrote:I don't think the wager from first was terrible. Once Jonathan had committed to making a shutout bet, he was going to drop below Melissa on a miss anyway. He pretty much has to get FJ right to win, so why not bet it all? The only other way to make a shutout bet and win on a miss is if BOTH opponents over-wager. As things turned out, only one of them did. The other drastically UNDER-wagered. Still, I agree he should have provided for the possibility of two over-wagers and made the minimum shutout bet. Since he didn't, he gets an extra $999.
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I do believe you're right, Kristin. On both counts.kristinsausville wrote:You're right -- and I believe they've had two The Very Hungry Caterpillar clues this season too. I just think it stands out more in FJ.Winchell Factor wrote:I can't believe they've had two Fried Green Tomatoes at the Whistle Stop Cafe clues this season.kristinsausville wrote:I can't believe they had two Breaking Bad-related FJs in the same season.
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Golfs can type and stuff but no one likes them because of their bad mannersGolf wrote:Sure if Suzanne makes the proper wager Melissa is doomed, but how often does a contestant wager properly from second?Bamaman wrote:Why did you like Melissa's wager? If Suzanne makes the proper cover wager of $2,001, Melissa is doomed with her zero bet.Golf wrote:opusthepenguin wrote: When Melissa's wager was revealed, I went
Then Suzanne's wager was revealed and I went
Melissa basically threw away any chance at winning and then Suzanne handed it right back to her.Penguins can type tremendously but they sure can't do math.opusthepenguin wrote: I don't think the wager from first was terrible. Once Jonathan had committed to making a shutout bet, he was going to drop below Melissa on a miss anyway. He pretty much has to get FJ right to win, so why not bet it all? The only other way to make a shutout bet and win on a miss is if BOTH opponents over-wager. As things turned out, only one of them did. The other drastically UNDER-wagered. Still, I agree he should have provided for the possibility of two over-wagers and made the minimum shutout bet. Since he didn't, he gets an extra $999.
Melissa's wager was good. Suzanne and Jonathan's were dreadful. Any wagering viking could tell you that within half a second. Simple and oft repeated situations we've discussed countless times.
My only problem with Jonathan's wager is that he can't win at all on a miss. Yes, he should be out anyway, but the best move from the lead is the MSB and not a penny more.
Or, ask yourself this, which is more likely, a WWR FJ scenario where the last place contestant has the only right answer. Or a WWW scenario where 2nd makes the suicide wager?
That being said, if the FJ category is a wheelhouse for third, I've no issue with betting it all to avoid being shutout by a proper wager from second.
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Re: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]
True enough. I've never seen it but picked up on both Blanco and Metastasis immediately.dhkendall wrote:"Blanco". The lead of Breaking Bad is Walter White. Fairly persistent pop culture reference that, once again, you don't have to watch the product to know.floridagator wrote:I don't watch "Breaking Bad," so can someone tell me what the TOM was from that clue?
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Breaking Bad was a Sony production filmed, in part, at the same studio lot in Culver City where Jeopardy! tapes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Pict ... ios#Dramas When I was there in March, there was still a big banner for the show hanging from one of the buildings.
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¿Por qué no los dos? Melissa could have made a wager that would win on a sole get if Suzanne wagered properly, and on a triple stumper with Suzanne's actual wager.Golf wrote:Sure if Suzanne makes the proper wager Melissa is doomed, but how often does a contestant wager properly from second?Bamaman wrote:Why did you like Melissa's wager? If Suzanne makes the proper cover wager of $2,001, Melissa is doomed with her zero bet.Golf wrote:opusthepenguin wrote: When Melissa's wager was revealed, I went
Then Suzanne's wager was revealed and I went
Melissa basically threw away any chance at winning and then Suzanne handed it right back to her.Penguins can type tremendously but they sure can't do math.opusthepenguin wrote: I don't think the wager from first was terrible. Once Jonathan had committed to making a shutout bet, he was going to drop below Melissa on a miss anyway. He pretty much has to get FJ right to win, so why not bet it all? The only other way to make a shutout bet and win on a miss is if BOTH opponents over-wager. As things turned out, only one of them did. The other drastically UNDER-wagered. Still, I agree he should have provided for the possibility of two over-wagers and made the minimum shutout bet. Since he didn't, he gets an extra $999.
Melissa's wager was good. Suzanne and Jonathan's were dreadful. Any wagering viking could tell you that within half a second. Simple and oft repeated situations we've discussed countless times.
My only problem with Jonathan's wager is that he can't win at all on a miss. Yes, he should be out anyway, but the best move from the lead is the MSB and not a penny more.
Or, ask yourself this, which is more likely, a WWR FJ scenario where the last place contestant has the only right answer. Or a WWW scenario where 2nd makes the suicide wager?
Re: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]
Personally I'd be overjoyed to see a clue on Sense8 next season.If there has not been an "Orange Is the New Black" FJ yet, I'd expect one next season.
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Wrong question. Melissa's bet wins in the second scenario but not the first. My recommended bet ($4301) wins in both. It guards against the rational wager ($2001) AND the suicide wager. So the question is, do you want to win in both scenarios or just in one of them?Golf wrote:Sure if Suzanne makes the proper wager Melissa is doomed, but how often does a contestant wager properly from second?
Or, ask yourself this, which is more likely, a WWR FJ scenario where the last place contestant has the only right answer. Or a WWW scenario where 2nd makes the suicide wager?
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Um, I think that’s what I said in the first place:This Is Kirk! wrote:Did Suzanne actually pronounce it close enough to correct? I could have sworn she said something more like Ja-war-ha-lal.OldSchoolChamp wrote:Incidentally, if you really want to say it right, it’s “Ja-WA-har-LAL,” not “Ja-wa-HAR-lal,”
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Ha! I had forgotten that I posted that. As you can imagine, FJ! was a huge instaget for me.BigDaddyMatty wrote: barandall800 gave away tonight's FJ! two months ago. From the May 20 game thread:Then again, there's this.barandall800 wrote:What? I guess that explains why the main characters spoke English in Breaking Bad. I thought it was just so we wouldn't have to read a lot of subtitles.ElendilPickle wrote:No, too many people don't think we're a state.OrangeSAM wrote:Perhaps we should stop making license plates which say "New Mexico, USA".grindcore wrote:Anybody think it's time for Johnny to stop adding "Canada" to Andrew and other Canadians' introductions? I don't think most people, upon hearing simply "Squamish, British Columbia" or "Memramcook, New Brunswick" would be terribly confused.
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Yeah, whenever BB turns up on J! (and it turns up a lot as folks have pointed out) I wonder how much of that's due to both shows being SPE.dharrisf wrote:Breaking Bad was a Sony production filmed, in part, at the same studio lot in Culver City where Jeopardy! tapes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Pict ... ios#Dramas When I was there in March, there was still a big banner for the show hanging from one of the buildings.
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Re: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]
I am so happy and relieved that we have finally found our very own Miss Manners. Tell us how to oh, behave, babyAustin Powers wrote:Golfs can type and stuff but no one likes them because of their bad mannersGolf wrote:Sure if Suzanne makes the proper wager Melissa is doomed, but how often does a contestant wager properly from second?Bamaman wrote:Why did you like Melissa's wager? If Suzanne makes the proper cover wager of $2,001, Melissa is doomed with her zero bet.Golf wrote:opusthepenguin wrote: When Melissa's wager was revealed, I went
Then Suzanne's wager was revealed and I went
Melissa basically threw away any chance at winning and then Suzanne handed it right back to her.Penguins can type tremendously but they sure can't do math.opusthepenguin wrote: I don't think the wager from first was terrible. Once Jonathan had committed to making a shutout bet, he was going to drop below Melissa on a miss anyway. He pretty much has to get FJ right to win, so why not bet it all? The only other way to make a shutout bet and win on a miss is if BOTH opponents over-wager. As things turned out, only one of them did. The other drastically UNDER-wagered. Still, I agree he should have provided for the possibility of two over-wagers and made the minimum shutout bet. Since he didn't, he gets an extra $999.
Melissa's wager was good. Suzanne and Jonathan's were dreadful. Any wagering viking could tell you that within half a second. Simple and oft repeated situations we've discussed countless times.
My only problem with Jonathan's wager is that he can't win at all on a miss. Yes, he should be out anyway, but the best move from the lead is the MSB and not a penny more.
Or, ask yourself this, which is more likely, a WWR FJ scenario where the last place contestant has the only right answer. Or a WWW scenario where 2nd makes the suicide wager?
That being said, if the FJ category is a wheelhouse for third, I've no issue with betting it all to avoid being shutout by a proper wager from second.