Summer Hiatus Challenge 2015 - Round 3 Instant Replay Thread

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Sorry I forgot to put this up earlier.

The Instant Replay Thread is neither instant nor a replay. Discuss.

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Will be very curious to see the number of correct answers for the Classical 9 pointer (the Russian composer). I would consider myself to be fairly knowledgeable about classical music, but I have never heard of this guy even after looking him up.

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BoK wrote:Sorry I forgot to put this up earlier.

The Instant Replay Thread is neither instant nor a replay. Discuss.
I considered starting one myself, but that seemed...overeager.

I either did really well or kerplunked today. We shall see.
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I got Spanish Civil War from 1936, but then I had to guess on whether Madrid or Barcelona was the capital, because I can never remember those things.
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Is the intended correct answer for the Bach question "cembalo"? Wikipedia says that the title on the score reads: Concerto 5to à une Traversiere, une Violino principale, une Violino è una Viola in ripieno, Violoncello, Violone è Cembalo concertato.

Nobody so far has guessed "cembalo". "Clavier" seems too generic, and "clavichord" (my answer) is definitely not right.

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Yes, I think cembalo was the intended answer. Seems very difficult to me!

Bach would have spelled clavier as "klavier," wouldn't he?
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goforthetie wrote:Is the intended correct answer for the Bach question "cembalo"? Wikipedia says that the title on the score reads: Concerto 5to à une Traversiere, une Violino principale, une Violino è una Viola in ripieno, Violoncello, Violone è Cembalo concertato.

Nobody so far has guessed "cembalo". "Clavier" seems too generic, and "clavichord" (my answer) is definitely not right.
I really struggled with that question. If cembalo is indeed the intended answer, then it is undervalued IMO. I knew that clavichords are distinct from harpsichords (struck vs. plucked strings) but clavier is a generic term that would encompass harpsichords. The one hitch with that idea is that the Germanic spelling is Klavier, and AFAIK is a synonym with piano, not harpsichord.

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Whoops. I felt pretty good about clavier until I looked it up. When it comes to classical music, I should just clam, even when it's clear that all of the correct answers commence with 'c'.

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Woof wrote:
goforthetie wrote:Is the intended correct answer for the Bach question "cembalo"? Wikipedia says that the title on the score reads: Concerto 5to à une Traversiere, une Violino principale, une Violino è una Viola in ripieno, Violoncello, Violone è Cembalo concertato.

Nobody so far has guessed "cembalo". "Clavier" seems too generic, and "clavichord" (my answer) is definitely not right.
I really struggled with that question. If cembalo is indeed the intended answer, then it is undervalued IMO. I knew that clavichords are distinct from harpsichords (struck vs. plucked strings) but clavier is a generic term that would encompass harpsichords. The one hitch with that idea is that the Germanic spelling is Klavier, and AFAIK is a synonym with piano, not harpsichord.
One of many undervalued clues today . . . For example, IMO the Watkins clue was undervalued for people who aren't plugged into the quiz bowl scene and have NHO Watkins. And I NHO several of today's correct responses. The cembalo clue was also neg-baity, bc Bach and "C" instrument elicits a Pavlovian response of Clavier. (And "clavier" with a C is the typical spelling when rendered in English).

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hbomb1947 wrote:For example, IMO the Watkins clue was undervalued for people who aren't plugged into the quiz bowl scene and have NHO Watkins.
Yeah, at that point level, it was crying out for some other TOM.

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hbomb1947 wrote:
ETA: Sorry if I'm not seeming very well-tempered today. :D
What you did there: I saw it and appreciated it. :D

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alietr wrote:
hbomb1947 wrote:For example, IMO the Watkins clue was undervalued for people who aren't plugged into the quiz bowl scene and have NHO Watkins.
Yeah, at that point level, it was crying out for some other TOM.
Yes, perhaps something like "Watkins was probably crimson with shame . . . " :)
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I was leaning toward Madrid, but for all I knew there could have been fighting in lots of other places then. I'd have probably gone for it if it had been 15 points because of the higher EV.

And at least my other guess of clavier would have been just as (if not more) wrong.

I also knew Pablo but couldn't think of his last name.

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alietr wrote:
hbomb1947 wrote:For example, IMO the Watkins clue was undervalued for people who aren't plugged into the quiz bowl scene and have NHO Watkins.
Yeah, at that point level, it was crying out for some other TOM.
For me, at least, the note about the take-home exam helped recall the story. I remember thinking how very Harvard it seemed to offer the exam take-home, and funny that so many students still cheated.

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-4 :oops: :oops: :oops:
Got Georgetown (I live near DC BTW) and educated guessed Chopin.
Picked Northwestern instead.
Got Spain, but for some reason thought Barcelona was the capital (I knew it was one of the two). :evil: :evil: :evil:

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mahatma wrote:
alietr wrote:
hbomb1947 wrote:For example, IMO the Watkins clue was undervalued for people who aren't plugged into the quiz bowl scene and have NHO Watkins.
Yeah, at that point level, it was crying out for some other TOM.
For me, at least, the note about the take-home exam helped recall the story. I remember thinking how very Harvard it seemed to offer the exam take-home, and funny that so many students still cheated.
Here again, without special knowledge of Harvard, I don't see how it would seem "very Harvard" to offer a take-home exam. Why Harvard and not Princeton or Yale or Stanford or one of many other schools? I had some take-home exams at my law school, which was not Harvard.
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I went to architecture school in Boston, not at Harvard, but I had a few friends who were graduate assistants/TAs there. It was a little bit of an in-joke that, while it was a very tough school to get into, it was pretty easy to skate through once you were in. I don't ever remember having take-home exams as an undergrad.

I'm not saying the question was easy; just saying why it 'clicked' for me.

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Woof wrote:... The one hitch with that idea is that the Germanic spelling is Klavier, and AFAIK is a synonym with piano, not harpsichord.
I'm guessing the German meaning of that word had not yet crystallized by Bach's time; the books encompassing his Wohltermperierte Klavier were published well before any form of the piano came into wide use.

That said, I fell into the "clavier" trap and totally fluffed cembalo.
Poo-tee-weet? So it goes.

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I thought I was losing my mind, which is why I edited my post above, but StevenH asked about The Five in TD 242. I dropped that question because I had no clue. So I went and learned about those dudes. Of course, there's no telling when I'm going to be able to pull that knowledge from my skull and when I'm not going to be able to.

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I was a researcher at the University of Michigan when the state highway map with "Beatosu" and "Goblu" was released. That was in 1978. Peter Fletcher, who was a real character, was the chair of the Michigan Highway Commission and a rabid U-M fan. I actually met Fletcher, several times, after I moved to his hometown of Ypsilanti.

Here's a link to the map, with red arrows pointing to the faux towns: http://www.michigan.gov/images/hal/mhc_ ... 4563_7.jpg

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