Wednesday, September 16, 2015 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

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davey wrote:
willwoodlen wrote:If I understood Alex correctly at the start of the show, he was speculating about precedents for having a new champion every day of the first week of a new season. This happened in the 2002-2003 season. In fact, no champion repeated until Friday of the second week.

If this was not his point, never mind.
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irene wrote:Wanted to mention that Talia's "Turd Ferguson" answer to FJ was noted on CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/17/entertain ... index.html
It's been on a lot more than that ... my Twitter search for Jeopardy has been taken over by people linking The Blaze, Slate, USA Today or Entertainment Weekly, and it's pushed Alex Trebek into a trending term on Google's Entertainment news section.
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And one of them actually has a bit of an interview with Talia: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... pardy.html
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MitchO wrote:And one of them actually has a bit of an interview with Talia: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... pardy.html
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Count me as another who agrees that "Cromwell" should have been BMSed. I think Alex/the judges may have felt relief after two wrong answers and subconsciously did not want to push too far (although probably Talia did know it anyway). I remember that the usually authoritative Complete Directory to Prime Time Network TV Shows by Brooks and Marsh once mistakenly listed "Oliver Cromwell" as a character in a Henry VIII miniseries.

There were some weird wrong responses in this game (and a huge amount of leftover clues) but also some good gets - and all three had good anecdotes, which is always a nice bonus.
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"There are two (three!) British people named Cromwell in the same family associated with the monarchy in some fashion" is not sufficient reason to BMS on that clue.

I don't think. There isn't precedent, right? Do they prompt for "Oliver Cromwell" much?
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Lampy wrote:"There are two (three!) British people named Cromwell in the same family associated with the monarchy in some fashion" is not sufficient reason to BMS on that clue.
I don't know - anyone with even the slightest knowledge base knows that Theodore Roosevelt built the Panama Canal and Franklin Roosevelt enacted the New Deal, but I think if one of those came up in the $200 row a BMS might well be required.
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Lampy wrote:There isn't precedent, right? Do they prompt for "Oliver Cromwell" much?
That is a valid point - traditionally Oliver was by far the more famous Cromwell and would not have been BMSed. Due to the books and TV series, they are now much closer to equal.
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Stanislaus Jacob wrote:
Lampy wrote:There isn't precedent, right? Do they prompt for "Oliver Cromwell" much?
That is a valid point - traditionally Oliver was by far the more famous Cromwell and would not have been BMSed. Due to the books and TV series, they are now much closer to equal.
I'm not sure, does it really matter if both just happen to be famous, though? I'm not BMSing Huxley for "Darwin's Bulldog" right? Maybe J does?
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Lampy wrote:
Stanislaus Jacob wrote:
Lampy wrote:There isn't precedent, right? Do they prompt for "Oliver Cromwell" much?
That is a valid point - traditionally Oliver was by far the more famous Cromwell and would not have been BMSed. Due to the books and TV series, they are now much closer to equal.
I'm not sure, does it really matter if both just happen to be famous, though? I'm not BMSing Huxley for "Darwin's Bulldog" right? Maybe J does?
Like I said above, I don't think they've ever BMS'd Cromwell.
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econgator wrote:
Lampy wrote:
Stanislaus Jacob wrote:
Lampy wrote:There isn't precedent, right? Do they prompt for "Oliver Cromwell" much?
That is a valid point - traditionally Oliver was by far the more famous Cromwell and would not have been BMSed. Due to the books and TV series, they are now much closer to equal.
I'm not sure, does it really matter if both just happen to be famous, though? I'm not BMSing Huxley for "Darwin's Bulldog" right? Maybe J does?
Like I said above, I don't think they've ever BMS'd Cromwell.
Cromwell seems to be a weird exception to the BMS shared last name rule. Doesn't seem to be a reason for it, it just is.
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Related to baby grand piano, here is a game I just put in the archive.

http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=5039

Check out the $400 clue in "Ends in Z" in the DJ round.

The contestant said "Who are the Mertzes" and Alex said "Yes, the Mertzes". I don't think they should have taken that. Had the category just been "1950s TV", I might said OK, but it does not fit the "Ends in Z" rule.
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Bamaman wrote:Related to baby grand piano, here is a game I just put in the archive.

http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=5039

Check out the $400 clue in "Ends in Z" in the DJ round.

The contestant said "Who are the Mertzes" and Alex said "Yes, the Mertzes". I don't think they should have taken that. Had the category just been "1950s TV", I might said OK, but it does not fit the "Ends in Z" rule.
I have a further beef with that answer being accepted, as, not only does it not fit the category, it does not fit the clue.

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Bamaman wrote:Related to baby grand piano, here is a game I just put in the archive.

http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=5039

Check out the $400 clue in "Ends in Z" in the DJ round.

The contestant said "Who are the Mertzes" and Alex said "Yes, the Mertzes". I don't think they should have taken that. Had the category just been "1950s TV", I might said OK, but it does not fit the "Ends in Z" rule.
Am I, like, disrespecting the show or something by thinking that pluralizing something that ends in Z doesn't cause a person to suddenly lack knowledge? Because I and obviously the judges think this is fine.
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Lampy wrote:
Bamaman wrote:Related to baby grand piano, here is a game I just put in the archive.

http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=5039

Check out the $400 clue in "Ends in Z" in the DJ round.

The contestant said "Who are the Mertzes" and Alex said "Yes, the Mertzes". I don't think they should have taken that. Had the category just been "1950s TV", I might said OK, but it does not fit the "Ends in Z" rule.
Am I, like, disrespecting the show or something by thinking that pluralizing something that ends in Z doesn't cause a person to suddenly lack knowledge? Because I and obviously the judges think this is fine.
1. Mertzes doesn't end in 'z'.
2. Mertzes is not the characters' surname.

By your argument, the book of revelations should be perfectly acceptable.

Bad ruling.

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bpmod wrote:
Lampy wrote:
Bamaman wrote:Related to baby grand piano, here is a game I just put in the archive.

http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=5039

Check out the $400 clue in "Ends in Z" in the DJ round.

The contestant said "Who are the Mertzes" and Alex said "Yes, the Mertzes". I don't think they should have taken that. Had the category just been "1950s TV", I might said OK, but it does not fit the "Ends in Z" rule.
Am I, like, disrespecting the show or something by thinking that pluralizing something that ends in Z doesn't cause a person to suddenly lack knowledge? Because I and obviously the judges think this is fine.
1. Mertzes doesn't end in 'z'.
2. Mertzes is not the characters' surname.

By your argument, the book of revelations should be perfectly acceptable.

Bad ruling.

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Well, no. "The Book of Revelation" isn't something that is pluralizable, whereas a last name is something that's regularly pluralized in English. "The Mertzes" is a thing people can correctly say. I'd also accept "What are waltzes" in this category but not "What is The Last Waltzes"
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Lampy wrote: Well, no. "The Book of Revelation" isn't something that is pluralizable, whereas a last name is something that's regularly pluralized in English. "The Mertzes" is a thing people can correctly say. I'd also accept "What are waltzes" in this category but not "What is The Last Waltzes"
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J! once had a category called SONGS THAT "COME" AND "GO" to which one of the responses was a song with "Coming" in the title.
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This Is Kirk! wrote:
Lampy wrote: Well, no. "The Book of Revelation" isn't something that is pluralizable, whereas a last name is something that's regularly pluralized in English. "The Mertzes" is a thing people can correctly say. I'd also accept "What are waltzes" in this category but not "What is The Last Waltzes"
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