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Monday, October 31, 2011 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:35 am

Game Recap for Show #6236, 2011-10-31

CONTESTANTS
Evan Sandman, a hotel front desk manager from Los Angeles, California
Gina Harris, a document specialist from Aloha, Oregon
Sunny Stalter, an English professor from Auburn, Alabama (whose 2-day cash winnings total $36,200)

OPENING REMARKS
Alex: Thank you, Johnny, and welcome, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you all. I hope today's program goes well, because 45 minutes from now, I have to rush out to pick up my Halloween costume. Evan and Gina, nice to have you joining us today. Sunny, good to see you again. If you're ready to play, let's do it, shall we? The Jeopardy! Round is first. One Daily Double in this round, and here are your categories. First off...

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
RICH COUNTRY, POOR COUNTRY (5/5)
SHOW ME YOUR STUFF (5/5)
TV PERSONALITIES (5/5)
HOSPITALS (5/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
TEXTING FOR SHORT (5/5)
SEASHELLS (3/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Sunny: 14 R (including 1 DD), 1 W
Gina: 10 R, 1 W
Evan: 4 R, 0 W

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 2
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $1,800



SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
Sunny: $3,800
Evan: $2,800
Gina: $2,400

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Alex: Evan Sandman is the first player we introduced on our program today, and every year, I understand, Evan, you and your wife get involved in a special kind of kidnapping.

Evan: Yes, we call them birthday kidnappings. We plan birthday vacations for each other without telling--my--my wife Caroline and I plan birthday vacations without telling each other where we're gonna go, and, um, we leave it up until the last possible minute to let each other know, and we go and have an amazing time.

Alex: All right.




Alex: Gina, over to you now. Gina Harris from Aloha, Oregon. Quite often I have wondered what happens to the greyhounds at tracks in Florida after their racing careers are over. Well, I'm about to find out, thanks to you.

Gina: Yes, there's a variety of different adoption organizations for them. Uh, my mother started volunteering with one after we accidentally acquired a greyhound in the late '80s, and so there's always more that need homes. We're on our 14th and 15th now.

Alex: Wow. See, I'd train 'em to go out and get the newspaper, and it would be back in a flash.

Gina: They would.

Alex: Yeah.




Alex: Sunny, over to you now. You auditioned how many times for this program?

Sunny: Uh, it's been 4 times over a period of 20 years.

Alex: You auditioned as a teen at the Mall of America, didn't you?

Sunny: Yeah, for the Teen Tournament when I was in high school.

Alex: Okay, well, I'm glad you're here, and I'm sure you are, too, because you're a 2-time winner.

Sunny: Absolutely.

JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Sunny found the Daily Double on the 23rd clue. Sunny had $5,600, Gina had $4,200, and Evan was at $2,800. Sunny wagered $1,400.

HOSPITALS $600: Now closed, the D.C. hospital named for him opened in 1909 & in WWI, went from 80 beds to 2,500 in months

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
SEASHELLS $800: Irregularly-shaped shells of creatures in the family vermetidae are also known as this type of shell, named for an earth tiller

SEASHELLS $1000: Shells of the family terebridae, called this, like the carpenter's drilling tool they resemble
(Sunny: What is a bit?)
(Gina: What is an awl?)

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
Sunny: $8,000
Gina: $4,200
Evan: $2,800

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DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD (4/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
FALL GUYS (5/5)
BOOK DEDICATIONS (5/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
THE MUSICAL ACT THEY FOLLOW (3/5)
HALLOWEEN CANDY (4/5)
"TRICK" OR "TREAT" (5/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Evan: 12 R (including 2 DDs), 0 W
Gina: 7 R, 0 W
Sunny: 7 R, 1 W

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 4
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $6,400



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Evan snagged the next Daily Double on the 12th clue. Sunny had $11,600, Gina had $8,200, and Evan was at $4,400. Evan made it a True Daily Double, wagering $4,400.

IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD $1600: Oct. 22, 1844 became "The Great Disappointment" for those awaiting the end; it led to the start of this "numeric" faith

SECOND DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
It was Evan who snatched up the last Daily Double of the game on the 19th clue. Sunny had $11,200, Gina had $8,200, and Evan was at $12,800. Evan wagered $3,000.

BOOK DEDICATIONS $1600: E.M. Forster dedicated this 1924 novel to Syed Ross Mahood, who showed him "new horizons and a new civilization"

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
THE MUSICAL ACT THEY FOLLOW $800: Blockheads

IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD $2000: This 89-year-old ex-civil engineer said May 21, 2011 was the day... then, sorry, I was off by 5 months, it's Oct. 21, my bad
(Alex: He missed 'em both.)

THE MUSICAL ACT THEY FOLLOW $1600: Apple Scruffs
(Sunny: Uh, who is Fiona Apple?)

HALLOWEEN CANDY $2000: Tootsie Roll Industries makes Tootsie Pops (candy inside a lollipop) & these Blow Pops (gum inside a lollipop)

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
Evan: $22,200
Sunny: $14,400
Gina: $10,600

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
19th CENTURY QUOTATIONS

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
Crush for first place.
Evan: Wager $6,601 to cover Sunny.
Sunny: You have the hope of surpassing Evan if you come up with the correct response. Bet at least $7,801 to force Evan to wager to win while also protecting your position from being usurped by Gina.
Gina: Your only hope of a win is that you're the only one to give a correct response, so bet $10,598 or so, leaving a few bucks behind in case someone wagers it all.

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
"In this sense, the theory of" this group "may be summed up in the single sentence: abolition of private property"

FINAL SCORES
Gina: $10,600 - $10,100 = $500 (What are abolitionists?) (3rd place: $1,000)
Sunny: $14,400 + $14,000 = $28,400 (What is communists?) (2nd place: $2,000)
Evan: $22,200 + $6,601 = $28,801 (What are the Communists?) (New champion: $28,801)
(Alex: [To Sunny] You are correct. Frederic March--Frederic March! [Laughs] Karl Marx and--and Friedrich Engels.)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $8,200

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
Evan: $18,000, 16 R (including 2 DDs), 0 W
Sunny: $13,600, 21 R (including 1 DD), 2 W
Gina: $10,600, 17 R, 1 W
Combined Coryat: $42,200

BATTING AVERAGES
Sunny: 22/59 = .373
Gina: 17/58 = .293
Evan: 17/60 = .283
Team: 56/63 = .889

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
SEASHELLS $200: Prized by collectors, this type of shell has been used as a trumpet for thousands of years

SEASHELLS $400: (Jimmy of the Clue Crew presents the clue.) The shell of Tridacna squamosa, or fluted giant clam, shows why is is classed as one of these, from the Latin for "two folding doors"

SEASHELLS $600: An abalone shell is lined with a lustrous material called nacre, or this, because shellfish can give birth to gems

"TRICK" OR "TREAT" $1200: Rick Nielsen, this band's guitarist is seen here in his trademark look

CORRECT RESPONSES
Walter Reed
a worm shell
an auger shell
the Seventh Day Adventists
A Passage to India
New Kids on the Block
Harold Camping
the Beatles
Charms
communists
a conch
a bivalve
mother-of-pearl
Cheap Trick

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Re: Monday, October 31, 2011 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILE

Post by KenJenningsFan74 » Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:21 pm

Evan Sandman successfully used his two correct Daily Double responses to catapult himself ahead of Sunny Stalter for the lead, and was able to stretch that lead far enough to earn a Crush. He seems to be a capable player, and I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up as a two-day winner heading into the Tournament of Champions.

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Post by econgator » Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:28 pm

Ahhhh .. a much better game today.

FJ wasn't quite an instaget, but after about 10 seconds, I was pretty confident.

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Post by thejeopardyfan » Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:32 pm

econgator wrote:Ahhhh .. a much better game today.

FJ wasn't quite an instaget, but after about 10 seconds, I was pretty confident.
Oh, yeah. This final may get 100% in the weekly poll.
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Post by Roadgeek Adam » Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:32 pm

I got communists for FJ easily. I have a question in terms of answer choice: Would Marxists be accepted as an answer? Alex used Marx's name, which tends to make me lean yes, plus the date makes it seem more obvious.
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Post by StevenH » Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:00 pm

This was the easiest board that I have seen in regular play in quite awhile. "Trickle" for $2000, really?

I loved the Fiona Apple neg for The Beatles. I didn't know that one and actually thought about her but I figured that there wasn't a well-known nickname for her fans.

I had no clue on FJ but should have known it.

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Post by Bamaman » Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:01 pm

It was referring to a quote, so it would have to be exact, I'd say it wouldn't count.

Took me a second to get to coimmunists, was fairly confident going into the reveal.

Agree it was a much better game as all three finished DJ over $10,000 and good DD wagering by Evan.

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Re: Monday, October 31, 2011 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILE

Post by laubla999 » Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:04 pm

I said Communists for FJ but I wasn't that confident about it.
I hesitated between that and Marxists.

I'm happy to have bet on the correct one!

Much better game tonight; Evan was almost too late ;-)
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Re: Monday, October 31, 2011 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILE

Post by jeff6286 » Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:13 pm

19th Century Quotations
"In this sense, the theory of" this group "may be summed up in the single sentence: abolition of private property."
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What are communists? Gina said abolitionists.
Evan Sandman: $22,200+$6,601=$28,801...now a 1-day champion with $28,801
Sunny Stalter: $14,100+$14,000=$28,400
Gina Harris: $10,600-$10,100=$500

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Post by Turd Ferguson » Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:22 pm

StevenH wrote:I loved the Fiona Apple neg for The Beatles. I didn't know that one and actually thought about her but I figured that there wasn't a well-known nickname for her fans.
I wondered if it was Coldplay. It's a rare board where I can sweep a Lit category (especially a DJ! one) while coming up blank on multiple clues in a music category... credit to Prisoner of Trebekistan for being able to get the Forster clue.

For FJ!, let's just say that the poll won't be 100%. I somehow got stuck on trying to find something related to slavery... maybe I can blame the inability to read the clue on having the Passage To India mental image in my head...

ETA: Seeing the FJ! clue, I do remember being a bit thrown by the broken-up quotation having a "this" in it. The phrasing messed up my brain's "Jeopardy! parser" a bit, having me wonder "this sense? what sense?".
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Re: Monday, October 31, 2011 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILE

Post by jeff6286 » Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:25 pm

The J! round was like night and day compared to Friday's show. I believe that there wasn't a single missed answer for the first 28 clues of the show, as only the bottom two clues in the seashell category tripped up the players. I didn't think that overall the boards were ridiculously easy. I got 20/30 and 18/30, with $31,200, which is a little above average for me. I was thankful they had enough time to get through the candy category, which was an easy 5/5 for me. Candy might be right up there with sports as my top wheelhouse categories.

Nice win by Evan, nice bold wagering on the Daily Doubles, and even a nice poker face to make Alex think he had missed FJ. All three players even made pretty solid wagers in FJ. Gina and Sunny both both pretty much could have bet it all, and I'm guessing they left a little behind to try to sneak into 2nd, rather than 3rd, on a triple stumper. Sunny left $400 behind, and Gina must have been either reading her mind, or peeking at her podium, since she left $500 behind.

I am wondering if anyone on here will ridicule Gina's answer of abolitionists, but I didn't think it was a terrible guess, and it crossed my list of potential answers as well. If you imagine the quote coming from a southern writer, it makes sense that they would equate the loss of their slaves with the idea that soon people would lose all private property. Or it could just be that the word "abolition" was in the clue, and that is was Gina keyed on and she couldn't think of anything else.

It took me a little time to figure out how to phrase the answer. Did they want communists or communism? Looking for a group, communists would make sense, but it seems like it would sound better to say "Who are communists", rather than "What are communists?" I guess it works either way for a group of people: Who are Democrats? What are Democrats? Who are Catholics? What are Catholics? I guess none of these really sound wrong, and there may be some grammar rule relating to collective nouns that indicates that "what" is preferable to "who" in situations like these.

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Post by billy pilgrim » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:24 pm

1. " abolition of private property" is not a sentence.
2. I find it really annoying when players try to pretend they didn't get FJ while the reveal is going on.
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Post by alietr » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:37 pm

Need a ruling: George Harrison instead of Beatles on the Apple Scruffs clue. What say thee?

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Post by alamble » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:52 pm

alietr wrote:Need a ruling: George Harrison instead of Beatles on the Apple Scruffs clue. What say thee?
You might have gotten a BMS if the judges were feeling really lenient, but you get a no from me.

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Post by seaborgium » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:34 pm

thejeopardyfan wrote: Oh, yeah. This final may get 100% in the weekly poll.
Unless my dad blurts out the correct response while I'm still thinking.

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Re: Monday, October 31, 2011 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILE

Post by mam418 » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:35 pm

Instagot Communists, but worried the whole time whether they were looking for Marxists. But I try not to second guess myself too much...

I did raise my eyebrows at 'abolitionists', though. :?

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Post by MarkBarrett » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:57 pm

The trick or treaters were kind with the doorbell only ringing twice during the show and both times it was during a commercial or during the interviews.

Since the show ended the doorbell has already rung three (make it eight now) times in the following 30 minutes.

Sunny was looking quite comfortable at the champ's position for most of the game. Evan seemed to feed off the energy of his (noticeably enthusiastic) rooting section to finally get the hang of the game. In a strange way he reminded me of a non-serious Dave Abbott.

Any kind of computer acronym/texting category will always teach me something new. IMHO was one I thought was In My Honest Opinion. Humble? Wow, how did I never learn the true word?

Bellevue in Hospitals was one where I know exactly the place to give the credit for getting it. Miracle on 34th St.

The FJ clue can add me to the group for costing it 100% on the polls. As if that had any chance of happening any way. I was in the right area, but I crossed off proletariat for working class. My first reading had me thinking about socialists. Communists. Of course. Bye bye mini streak of 7 in row.

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Post by Bamaman » Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:00 pm

I got Bellvue from Barney Miller.

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Re: Monday, October 31, 2011 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILE

Post by jeff6286 » Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:08 pm

MarkBarrett wrote: Any kind of computer acronym/texting category will always teach me something new. IMHO was one I thought was In My Honest Opinion. Humble? Wow, how did I never learn the true word?
There are quite a few references online to your answer as a secondary meaning of IMHO, so it is possible that they could have had that listed as an alternate answer. Had you gone with "Is my hearing aid on?", I think I would like your chances a little less. http://www.acronymfinder.com/Is-My-Hear ... IMHO).html

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