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Thursday, June 2, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:30 am

Game Recap for Show #7314, 2016-06-02

CONTESTANTS
Ed Brown, a lighting designer from Pasadena, California
Ariel Watkins, a graduate student from Monterey, California
Kelly Bayles, a librarian from Tulsa, Oklahoma (whose 1-day cash winnings total $16,900)

OPENING REMARKS
Alex: Thanks, Johnny. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome. I hope you caught it on yesterday's program. There was a beautiful moment at the end of Double Jeopardy! when Kelly looked up at the scoreboard and saw that she had twice as much money as either of her opponents, which meant the game is a runaway. She cannot be caught. She's going to win. You can't imagine how good that makes you feel going into Final Jeopardy! It doesn't happen all the time. We'll see what happens today as she faces Ariel and Ed. Good luck, players. Here comes the Jeopardy! Round. And here come the categories. First off...

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
TV MAPS (4/5)
DRINKING VESSELS (5/5)
ON THE INTERWEBS (4/5)
IN HIS STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS (5/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
OF COURSE (5/5)
CRIME WAVE (5/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Kelly: 14 R, 1 W
Ed: 11 R (including 1 rebound and 1 DD), 2 W
Ariel: 3 R (including 1 rebound), 0 W

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 2
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $1,600



JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Ed found the Daily Double on the 12th clue. Kelly had $3,000, Ariel had $600, and Ed had a deficit with -$400. Ed wagered $1,000.

IN HIS STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS $400: "The Congress assembles... under the shadow of a great calamity... (the) President... was shot by an anarchist"
(Alex: Way to go. Pulled that one out of thin air, didn't you?)
(Ed: Did a little bit.)

SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
Kelly: $3,800
Ed: $2,200
Ariel: $600

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Alex: Ed Brown is a lighting designer from Pasadena, California, who once had a strange thing happen during a production of The Nutcracker. Did it have to do with lighting?

Ed: Well, not really, but we had a--it was a low budget production. We used, for the snow effect, instant mashed potato flakes and colanders with fans underneath them. Twice during the pre-show check, I turned it on while the stage hands were mopping and made drifts of mashed potatoes across the stage.

[Laughter]

Alex: So good snow, good snow.

Ed: It was very sticky, yes.

Alex: Yes.




Alex: Ariel Watkins is a graduate student from Monterey, California, who lived in Tanzania for a couple of years. What were you doing there?

Ariel: I was teaching English at a high school. I was out in the boonies. They didn't have enough qualified English teachers. So I was living with no electricity, no running water, um, teaching high school students proper grammar.

Alex: Good for you.




Alex: Kelly Bayles is our champion. She's a librarian. And she has two different colored eyes. How does this happen?

Kelly: Um, it's just a genetic thing. I've heard it's kind of like having a birthmark on your eye.

Alex: So when you have to deal with people who say, "I prefer being with brown-eyed people," and other folks who say, "I prefer being with blue-eyed people," you fit in.

Kelly: Yeah, you're like, "Have I got news for you!"

Alex: Yeah.

[Laughter]

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
TV MAPS $600: "Cougar Town" opens with a map of this U.S. state

ON THE INTERWEBS $1000: In 2015 Zillow acquired this rival real estate website for $2.5 billion in stock
(Ed: What is Redfin?)

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
Kelly: $8,600
Ed: $5,200
Ariel: $1,200

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Re: Thursday, June 2, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:30 am

DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
TAKE A LOOK AT THE MONITOR (5/5)
VIRGINIA IS FOR WRITERS (3/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
PLOTS OF 1970s NO. 1 SONGS (4/5) (Alex: You identify the tune.)
ANTHROPOLOGY (2/5)
IN THE CANADIAN PROVINCE (4/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
RHYME WAVE (3/5) (Alex: Each correct response in that category will rhyme with "wave".)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Kelly: 13 R (including 1 rebound and 1 DD), 1 W
Ed: 7 R (including 1 DD), 4 W
Ariel: 1 R, 0 W

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 9
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $14,000



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Kelly snagged the next Daily Double on the 9th clue. Kelly had $11,800, Ariel had $1,200, and Ed was at $4,000. Kelly wagered $2,000.

VIRGINIA IS FOR WRITERS $1600: She was born in Virginia in 1873, but at age 9 moved to Nebraska, where her best known works are set

SECOND DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
It was Ed who snatched up the last Daily Double of the game on the 29th clue. Kelly had $18,600, Ariel had $1,600, and Ed was at $7,200. Ed wagered $3,000.

IN THE CANADIAN PROVINCE $1600: The Jimi Hendrix shrine, not all that far from Jimi's birthplace
(Alex: Yes, indeed. Jimi was in Seattle.)

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
RHYME WAVE $1600: It uses steam & high temperatures to sterilize surgical equipment
(Ed: What is a clave?)
(Alex: Be more specific. [Immediately] No? Nope.)

RHYME WAVE $2000: An old title for a German governor; Bach dedicated some concertos to the one of Brandenburg

VIRGINIA IS FOR WRITERS $1200: "Drawing Out the Man" by Henry Wise is a history of this military college in Lexington

VIRGINIA IS FOR WRITERS $2000: This native of Newport News wrote about Virginia history in "The Confessions of Nat Turner"

ANTHROPOLOGY $400: Term for a group of families associated for foraging, or for a group like Styx or the Pixies
(Ed: What is hunter-gatherer?)
(Alex: No.)
(Ed: That doesn't make any sense.)
(Alex: No. It doesn't.)

ANTHROPOLOGY $1600: Divisions of anthropology include this type also called ethnology, which studies human social behavior
(Kelly: What is sociology?)

ANTHROPOLOGY $2000: This now-extinct language was named for a strip of land along the Adriatic in Croatia
(Ed: What is Phoenician?)

PLOTS OF 1970s NO. 1 SONGS $2000: Precipitation causes angst for a man who blames the sun for his soggy plight

IN THE CANADIAN PROVINCE $1200: Casino Regina, where Buffy Sainte-Marie has performed
(Alex: Regina is the capital of [*].)

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
Kelly: $20,600 (lock game)
Ed: $10,200
Ariel: $1,600

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
20th CENTURY NOTABLES

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
Lock for first place; lock for second place.
Kelly: Wager between $0 (venusian) and $199 (martian), and enjoy your victory.
Ed: Wager between $0 (venusian) and $6,999 (martian), and enjoy 2nd place.
Ariel: You've no hope of catching up... unless Ed does something stupid. So risk $1,599.

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
Despite protests in 2009 some of his personal effects as seen here were sold at auction

FINAL SCORES
Ariel: $1,600 - $1,400 = $200 (Who was Osama bin Laden??) (3rd place)
Ed: $10,200 - $6,999 = $3,201 (Who is Gacy) (2nd place)
Kelly: $20,600 - $0 = $20,600 (Who is Hemingway?) (16901-day champion: $20,600)
(Alex: [To Ariel] I think you're a little early for 2009.)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $15,600

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
Kelly: $20,200, 27 R (including 1 DD), 2 W
Ed: $8,200, 18 R (including 2 DDs), 6 W
Ariel: $1,600, 4 R, 0 W
Combined Coryat: $30,000

BATTING AVERAGES
Kelly: 27/59 = .458
Ed: 18/60 = .300
Ariel: 4/58 = .069
Team: 49/63 = .778

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
TV MAPS $1000: (Jimmy of the Clue Crew shows a map on the monitor.) The Allies lost the war, and a buffer zone splits North America, with the Japanese in the west & the Nazis in the east on this Amazon show based on a story by Philip K. Dick

ON THE INTERWEBS $400: OK, margin of error at this dating site has a formula--true match = calculated match +/- reasonable margin of error
(Ed: What is Match.com?)

DRINKING VESSELS $600: This glass, named for its flowery shape, is preferred for sparkling wines because its rim holds in the bubbles longer
(Kelly: What is a flute?)

OF COURSE $600: Adding this 5-letter word in front of "course" creates a term meaning "brief intense instruction "
(Ariel: What is short?)
[Initially ruled incorrect; reversed before Double Jeopardy!]

CRIME WAVE $200: If you're forging Franklins, you're committing this crime
(Alex: Right, with less than a minute to go.)

TAKE A LOOK AT THE MONITOR $400: It's the year of the first-of-its-kind evidence of man seen here
(Alex: Yes, on the Moon.)

TAKE A LOOK AT THE MONITOR $800: This abstract artist is seen at work outside his New York studio in the 1950s

TAKE A LOOK AT THE MONITOR $1200: This sacred species shares its name with a yoga position

TAKE A LOOK AT THE MONITOR $1600: Introducing this daughter of a minister who earned an historic Oscar nomination in 1955

TAKE A LOOK AT THE MONITOR $2000: This transport for a big screen Bond could produce 286 horsepower

PLOTS OF 1970s NO. 1 SONGS $1200: Harbor town barmaid waits for her seafaring love to return
(Alex: [*], yes. You're a fine girl.)
(Ed: ANTHRO--thank you.)
[Laughter]

IN THE CANADIAN PROVINCE $800: The West Edmonton Mall, which boasts a water park, an amusement park, an ice palace, as well as, you know, a shopping mall
(Ed: What is Ontario?)

PLOTS OF 1970s NO. 1 SONGS $1600: Guy tired of his lady reads a personal ad, responds & meets her again
(Ed: What is [**]?)
(Alex: Yes. [*].)
...
(Alex: Less than a minute now.)

IN THE CANADIAN PROVINCE $2000: St. Paul's, the country's oldest Protestant church, which preserves a broken window from the 1917 ship explosion
(Alex: Yes. The explosion in Halifax.)

CORRECT RESPONSES
Theodore Roosevelt
Florida
Trulia
Willa Cather
British Columbia
an autoclave
margrave
VMI
William Styron
band
cultural anthropology
Dalmatian
"Raindrops Keep Fallin' On My Head"
Saskatchewan
Mohandas Gandhi
The Man in the High Castle
OKCupid
a tulip (glass)
a crash course
counterfeit
1969
(Jackson) Pollock
a lotus
Dorothy Dandridge
Aston Martin
"Brandy"
Alberta
"Escape (The Piña Colada Song)"
Nova Scotia

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Final Jeopardy! Round

Post by theFJguy » Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:31 am

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
20th CENTURY NOTABLES

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
Despite protests in 2009 some of his personal effects as seen here were sold at auction

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Kelly Bayles: 20600-0=20600 (2x = $37,500)
Ariel Watkins: 1600-1400=200
Ed Brown: 10200-6999=3201

Correct response:
Spoiler
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Mohandas Gandhi (Kelly - Hemingway) (Ariel - Osama bin Laden) (Ed - Gacy)
Daily Doubles
Ed: minus 400+1000
Kelly: 11800+2000
Ed: 7200+3000

Coryats
Kelly: 20200
Ariel: 1600
Ed: 8200

Combined: 30,000
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Re: Thursday, June 2, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MinnesotaMyron » Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:16 pm

Was stuck on FJ until I re-read the category. Good clue, more multi-faceted than some of what we've seen lately.

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Post by grindcore » Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:11 pm

The writers tried, they really did, but I really think it's impossible to dumb down the Canadian geography categories any more than they have been as of today. Time to just stop.

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Post by econgator » Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:28 pm

MinnesotaMyron wrote:Was stuck on FJ until I re-read the category. Good clue, more multi-faceted than some of what we've seen lately.
As soon as I saw the glasses, I knew it was Gandhi.

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Post by zakharov » Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:29 pm

Osama bin Laden instead of Gandhi.

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Re: Thursday, June 2, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Vowela » Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:31 pm

I was surprised FJ! was a triple miss.

What is the difference between sociology and cultural anthropology, anyway? I thought that one might get overturned.

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Post by Abraxas » Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:33 pm

Congrats to Kelly on her second win. I had 50 correct responses including these triple stumpers: Florida, Trulia, autoclave, VMI, William Styron, band, cultural anthropology, "Raindrops Keep Fallin' On My Head", and Saskatchewan. I also got FJ.

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Post by jpr281 » Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:35 pm

Horrible DD wager on second to last clue.

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Post by xxaaaxx » Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:44 pm

grindcore wrote:The writers tried, they really did, but I really think it's impossible to dumb down the Canadian geography categories any more than they have been as of today. Time to just stop.
I mean...if you spot them Edmonton and still get a neg, if you give them Regina and it's still a stand-and-stare TS, what else can they do? I was sitting there shaking my head, thinking "the Canadians out there must be laughing at us".

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Post by opusthepenguin » Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:48 pm

I got FJ at the 32nd second. Sigh.

I liked Ed. I wish we could see him again. Had he bet enough on that last DD, he could have won this game on a miss.

Way to go, Kelly! Wow. This is the second game where she put herself out of reach on the final clue.

Precalled the reversal on "short course." I wonder if Alex was accurate in saying the judges had decided that response was "just as good" as "crash course." I didn't think it was just as good. But I thought it was possibly good enough. I'm cool with the reversal but would have been fine if they'd let the original ruling stand.
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Post by skullturf » Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:06 pm

The value of precalling:

During the commercial break, I thought "What famous people would be most likely to be described as 20th century notables?" Gandhi was the very first name to pop into my head.

The category title didn't say "world leaders" or "entertainers", for example. I think Martin Luther King would have been another good precall based on the category title. As well as, I don't know, somebody like Benjamin Spock.

Despite my lucky precall, I didn't get it right away. It took a few moments for everything to click. At first I thought the year might be relevant, and we might be looking for somebody who died shortly before 2009. I also think two of the contestants read a little too much into the word "controversial" in the clue -- it's not that the person was controversial because of being considered a bad guy, it's that *selling* his personal effects was controversial.

I figured they must be showing us those physical objects for a reason. The combination of the sandals and the eyeglasses gave it to me.

On another day, it wouldn't have clicked, or would have taken me more than 30 seconds. But I thought it was a neat FJ, and I definitely liked it more than (very mild spoiler) the clues for the previous two days.

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Post by opusthepenguin » Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:15 pm

skullturf wrote:On another day, it wouldn't have clicked, or would have taken me more than 30 seconds. But I thought it was a neat FJ, and I definitely liked it more than (very mild spoiler) the clues for the previous two days.
Abso-frickin-lutely. This was a completely fair, above board FJ. I'd say it was one of the better ones. I have no complaints except for the part where I didn't get it in time.

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Post by MitchO » Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:20 pm

Sigh, Ed. You really aren't allowed to look disappointed at the scores after that bet.

I knew it wasn't right, but the glasses stood out the most for me; however, I (embarrassingly*) mistook them for Lennon's.

(*Embarrassing because my son's name is Lennon and I know enough about John that I should know his glasses look different)

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Post by BigDaddyMatty » Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:37 pm

Coryat: $32,800
44 R/2 W
DD: 3/3
FJ: :(
LT: Trulia, crash, VMI, band, cultural, Saskatchewan
skullturf wrote:I also think two of the contestants read a little too much into the word "controversial" in the clue -- it's not that the person was controversial because of being considered a bad guy, it's that *selling* his personal effects was controversial.
This is where I ended up as well. I was stuck on executed criminals and never got unstuck. Of course, were it a criminal, the category would've likely read "Notorious" rather than "Notable."
Vowela wrote:What is the difference between sociology and cultural anthropology, anyway? I thought that one might get overturned.
It appears from googling the subject that they're very similar, but the clue asked for a type of anthropology. I'm pretty sure that sociology is not considered a sub-discipline of anthropology.
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Post by TenPoundHammer » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:03 pm

WLT Game of Thrones or Poe in the top boxes?

NHO Edwin Starr, much less "War". "Escape" was my only get in the category, though I have heard of "Raindrops Keep Falling on My Head" and "Dancing Queen" (and what a snooze that song is).

Strangely, I didn't recognize ANY of the sites in the Interwebs category except Reddit. The hell is Vine?

No guess on FJ! I somehow read 2009 as 1909 and was stumped. Nothing in the picture meant anything to me, and even if I had read the date right I wouldn't have gotten to Gandhi. For some reason, "Gandhi" by itself always makes me think of Indira first, or at least long enough to distract me from the fact that Mahatma and Mohandas are the same person.
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Post by sarisson » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:07 pm

Got $1200 back after "short" was accepted. "Crash" was a more appropriate word, but not the only appropriate word.
I completely struck out on the four big clues, losing a coin flip on the author DD and saying "Ontario" for the Canada DD. I'm surprised someone got Nova Scotia but not Saskatchewan.
I must have trouble with visual FJ's, because I thought that bowl looked like a hat. :oops: 2009 auction? Who died in 2009 and was controversial? Oh yeah, the King of Pop. (headdesk)
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Re: Thursday, June 2, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by eureka » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:10 pm

grindcore wrote:The writers tried, they really did, but I really think it's impossible to dumb down the Canadian geography categories any more than they have been as of today. Time to just stop.
To be fair, I thought the Nova Scotia clue was pretty tough.

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Post by skullturf » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:16 pm

eureka wrote:
grindcore wrote:The writers tried, they really did, but I really think it's impossible to dumb down the Canadian geography categories any more than they have been as of today. Time to just stop.
To be fair, I thought the Nova Scotia clue was pretty tough.
It was in the correct position on the board. I am Canadian, and I didn't know the correct response until they mentioned the 1917 explosion, which probably isn't as famous outside of Canada. Appropriate for the bottom row, but probably no other rows.

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