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Monday, July 4, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:30 am

Game Recap for Show #7336, 2016-07-04

CONTESTANTS
Justin Lucas, a video production specialist from Reston, Virginia
Liz Hedreen, a stay-at-home mom from Kirkland, Washington
Zach Klitzman, a public historian from Washington, D.C. (whose 1-day cash winnings total $37,601)

OPENING REMARKS
Alex: Thank you, Johnny Gilbert, and thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Happy fourth to all of you. I've got my red, white, and blue on. I hope you have yours also. Justin, Liz, and Zach--Zach knows how to celebrate the fourth, picking up a lot of cash yesterday. But let's party right now. Let's play the game. And here come your categories...

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
SHOW YOUR COLLEGE COLORS (5/5)
RHYME TIME (3/5)
STATE CAPITALS (5/5)
ANIMAL YOUNG (4/5, including 1 missed Daily Double)
A SHAKESPEARE"M" CATEGORY (5/5) (Alex: Each correct response beginning with that letter of the alphabet.)
NASCAR TECHNOLOGY (5/5) (Jimmy: From the Daytona International Speedway. The evolution of a combination of speed and safety.)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Justin: 9 R, 0 W
Zach: 10 R, 2 W (including 1 DD)
Liz: 8 R, 1 W

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 2
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $800



SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
Justin: $3,400
Zach: $3,000
Liz: $2,600

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Alex: Justin Lucas wanted to get ready for his appearance on Jeopardy! and so he practiced doing what?

Justin: I practiced on a treadmill or an elliptical every day. Uh, we actually cord-cut, and we don't have any TV in our house, so, uh, we had to go down to the gym, get on a treadmill, throw something on TV. And for 30 minutes, I'd run with you. So if you'd like to go running sometime, I've got some practice.

Alex: [Clicks tongue] I'm a walker.

Justin: Ah, okay.




Alex: Liz Hedreen from Kirkland, Washington. A stay-at-home mom. And you and your husband have done something that makes me feel envious. You have both climbed...

Liz: Mount St. Helens. And--

Alex: Is it not dangerous?

Liz: Well, it was about 10 years after it blew up. Um, and it is still an active volcano, although not terribly active. But we climbed up, and it's a super-difficult hike. And at times, I wanted to lie down and cry. But we made it to the top and it was--

Alex: What's the view like from the top?

Liz: It's fabulous. You can look down into the crater, and you can see the lava dome, which is the mountain rebuilding itself. And it's fascinating.

Alex: Okay. Well, good for you.

Liz: Thank you.

Alex: Brave lady.




Alex: Zach Klitzman is brave also because he did something that a lot of people would like to do--or at least they would like to think they want to do it. And that has to do with Pamplona in Spain.

Zach: Exactly, Alex, yeah. In college, I studied abroad in, um, Spain, and we went, a couple of classmates and I, to Pamplona for the Running of the Bulls, their annual festival. And I was one of the runners. Um, chose one of the safer areas, kind of like a straightaway. So I was running along the side. And someone actually, five feet behind me, actually got hit by a bull.

Alex: Whoa. I'm not gonna run with the bulls.

Zach: Very fair.

Alex: Because as I mentioned a few moments ago, I'm a walker.

[Laughter]

JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Zach found the Daily Double on the 25th clue. Zach had $4,600, Liz had $3,600, and Justin was at $4,400. Zach made it a True Daily Double, wagering $4,600.

ANIMAL YOUNG $1000: It's the only animal native to the U.S. that has a baby called a joey
(Alex: You have a $200 lead at the moment over Justin, and we have a minute left in the round.)
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(Zach: [Sighs])
(Alex: Zach?)
(Zach: What is a donkey?)

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
RHYME TIME $200: One who chooses the alcohol
(Liz: What is a booze choose?)
(Zach: What is a boozer chooser?)

RHYME TIME $600: A highly politically biased & highly skilled craft maker

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
Justin: $4,800
Liz: $4,400
Zach: $2,000

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DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
CATHERINE THE GREAT (4/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
RENO 411 (1/3)
18th CENTURY ART (5/5)
MORE POWER TO THEM (4/4, including 1 correct Daily Double)
TITLE PAIRS (4/5)
THE "I-T" DEPARTMENT (4/5) (Alex: Each correct response will begin with those two letters.)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Justin: 10 R (including 1 DD), 0 W
Liz: 6 R (including 1 rebound), 0 W
Zach: 6 R (including 1 DD), 2 W

Clues revealed: 27
Triple Stumpers: 5
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $9,600



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Zach snagged the next Daily Double on the 4th clue. Zach had $2,400, Liz had $6,000, and Justin was at $4,800. Zach made it a True Daily Double, wagering $2,400.

CATHERINE THE GREAT $1200: 2 wars with the Turks gave Cathy control of the north coast of this sea from the Kerch Strait to the Dniester River

SECOND DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
It was Justin who snatched up the last Daily Double of the game on the 21st clue. Zach had $5,600, Liz had $8,800, and Justin was at $14,800. Justin wagered $4,000.

MORE POWER TO THEM $1200: It's the source of power for the submarine U.S.S. Jimmy Carter

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
CATHERINE THE GREAT $2000: Catherine's lover, he reportedly created fake villages for her tour of Ukraine

TITLE PAIRS $2000: In short order, ex-con Al Pacino falls for waitress Michelle Pfeiffer in this 1991 film

THE "I-T" DEPARTMENT $2000: This lake in Minnesota is the main source of the Mississippi River
(Zach: What is Lake Manitoba?)

RENO 411 $1600: Filmed in Reno, the movie "The Misfits" was the last picture for this "Gone with the Wind" star

RENO 411 $2000: The car that won the 1908 New York to Paris auto race is at the museum housing this late casino owner's auto collection

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
Justin: $19,600
Liz: $10,800
Zach: $6,000

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
DISNEYLAND

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
Crush for first place.
Justin: Wager $2,001 to cover Liz, but no more than $7,599 so as not to fall behind Zach's doubled score.
Liz: You have the hope of surpassing Justin if you come up with the correct response. Bet at least $8,801 to force Justin to wager to win while also protecting your position from being usurped by Zach.
Zach: Unfortunately, your score is less than the difference between the scores of the first and second place players, so unless they both blunder, you're competing for second place and have no hopes of first. Wager as much as you desire, but remember, you'll have better chances of advancing to second place if you have a larger sum left over on a Triple Stumper.

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
This attraction was originally built for the New York World's Fair in 1964, with proceeds going to UNICEF

FINAL SCORES
Zach: $6,000 + $5,007 = $11,007 (What is Space Mountain? It's a small world) (3rd place)
Liz: $10,800 + $10,800 = $21,600 (What is It's a Small World?) (New champion: $21,600)
Justin: $19,600 - $2,001 = $17,599 (What is Space Mountain?) (2nd place)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $10,400

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
Justin: $16,800, 19 R (including 1 DD), 0 W
Liz: $10,800, 14 R, 1 W
Zach: $9,400, 16 R (including 1 DD), 4 W (including 1 DD)
Combined Coryat: $37,000

BATTING AVERAGES
Justin: 19/59 = .322
Zach: 17/60 = .283
Liz: 15/58 = .259
Team: 51/63 = .810

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
STATE CAPITALS $800: While traveling Route 66 through this capital, you'll pass by the Will Rogers Theatre & its striking Art Deco sign

NASCAR TECHNOLOGY $800: (Sarah of the Clue Crew reports from the Daytona Int'l Speedway in Daytona Beach, FL.) Banking is the degree of incline of a racetrack's surface, which allows the cars to go faster in the turns with minimal lateral slippage; while Daytona has a 31% bank, Will Ferrell could tell you that this Alabama speedway is even steeper, at 33%

NASCAR TECHNOLOGY $1000: (Sarah of the Clue Crew reports reports from the Daytona Int'l Speedway in Daytona Beach, FL.) Also known as the blade, this strip of metal on the rear deck lid is designed to create down force on the rear of the car to increase traction, but it has to be angled just right so it doesn't hinder speed on the straightaways

NASCAR TECHNOLOGY $600: (Sarah of the Clue Crew reports from the Daytona Int'l Speedway in Daytona Beach, FL.) Engines with carburetors ruled NASCAR for decades, but since 2012, all cars have been equipped with EFI, electronic this, because it's more efficient & produces a better air-gas mixture

ANIMAL YOUNG $600: It's the largest animal whose baby is called a calf
(Zach: What is a whale?)
(Alex: Be more specific.)

NASCAR TECHNOLOGY $200: (Jimmy of the Clue Crew reports from the Daytona Int'l Speedway in Daytona Beach, FL.) The tires used in NASCAR have another tire within them for safety reasons, & are filled with this gas, symbol N, because it contains less moisture than air, & the tire pressure doesn't change as much in a race

NASCAR TECHNOLOGY $400: (Sarah of the Clue Crew reports from the Daytona Int'l Speedway in Daytona Beach, FL.) The window net used to prevent injuries by keeping a driver's arms inside the car during a crash became mandatory after this NASCAR legend, known as "King Richard", almost died in a 1970 wreck at Darlington

18th CENTURY ART $1200: In his self-portrait with his wife & daughter, this Brit gave them blue dresses; we guess he liked the color
(Alex: He also painted The Blue Boy.)

THE "I-T" DEPARTMENT $1600: Even without a "re", this verb means to say something again & again & again &...
(Zach: What is reiterate??

MORE POWER TO THEM $1600: Researchers at Georgia Tech have actually powered a nanogenerator using this furry wheel runner
(Justin: Awesome.)

MORE POWER TO THEM $800: The Juno spacecraft has set a record by traveling 413 million miles on this type of power--note the jumbo panels
(Alex: With less than a minute to go, you are right.)

CATHERINE THE GREAT $400: Catherine urged her subjects to plant this veggie but she was ignored; maybe she should have said you can make vodka from it
[The end-of-round signal sounds.]

CORRECT RESPONSES
a possum
a liquor picker
a partisan artisan
the Black Sea
nuclear
Grigory Potemkin
Frankie and Johnny
Lake Itasca
Clark Gable
Bill Harrah
It's a Small World
Oklahoma City
Talladega
a spoiler
fuel injection
a blue whale
nitrogen
Richard Petty
Gainsborough
iterate
a hamster
solar
potato

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Final Jeopardy! Round

Post by theFJguy » Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:31 am

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
DISNEYLAND

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
This attraction was originally built for the New York World’s Fair in 1964, with proceeds going to UNICEF

Zach Klitzman: 6000+5007=11007
Liz Hedreen: 10800+10800=21600 (new champ)
Justin Lucas: 19600-2001=17599

Correct response:
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It's a Small World (Zach - Space Mountain) (Justin - Space Mountain)
Daily Doubles
Zach: 4600-4600
Zach: 2400+2400
Justin: 14800+4000

Coryats
Zach: 9400
Liz: 10800
Justin: 16800

Combined: 37,000
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Re: Monday, July 4, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by opusthepenguin » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:09 pm

Lots of fun today. Shame to see Justin get so close. Loved his relaxed attitude and his comment of "Awesome!" regarding the hamster-powered nanomachine. His FJ guess of Space Mountain wasn't bad. I'm old enough to remember that Space Mountain came later. For both me and Mrs Penguin our problem was that we had way too much information to process. We're both native Southern Californians and have been to Disneyland MANY times over the years. She ended up on the America the Beautiful exhibit. I went with the monorail.

Congrats to Liz for sticking with it against two good opponents and getting FJ right for the win. She looked like she was having trouble believing she won. Good-bye to Zach. He was a lot of fun too.

I thought it was a good set of clues overall today.

As my wife noted to me, Justin wasn't quite correct on the power source for the USS Jimmy Carter.
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It's NUCULAR. :lol:
Speaking of Mrs Penguin, when the CATHERINE THE GREAT category showed up, we both shouted out "The horse!" The first clue in that category referenced C the G's lover. Alas, our precall turned out to be incorrect.

Still on the subject of Mrs P, she requests a ruling on the following clue in the "IT-" category: HYPHENATED ADJECTIVE MEANING EXTREMELY SMALL, LIKE SOME SPIDERS & BIKINIS. She said "What is itty-bitty?" The contestant gave "What is itsy-bitsy" which is of course what they wanted. I've spoilered my vote so as not to unduly influence your deliberations.
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I said she'd be negged initially but credited on a reversal. The clue doesn't REQUIRE this to be the same adjective as the one in the songs about the spider and the other one about the bikini. (I phrase it that way to avoid implying there's a song that combines both elements. Shudder.) Those TOMs are there to make the obvious answer easy to get to. They don't rule out a different adjective as long as it's hyphenated, means "extremely small," and starts with "it" per the category.
While you're at it, give me a ruling on this RHYME TIME clue: ONE WHO INSTRUCTS A SPREADER OF THE GOSPEL. Alex accepted "What is a preacher teacher?" which I'm sure is what they wanted. I didn't think of that and went with "What is a proselytizer adviser?"

I missed the following RHYME TIME clue: ONE WHO CHOOSES THE ALCOHOL. Like Zach, I said "What is a boozer chooser?" As Mrs P pointed out, that's not someone who chooses the alcohol, that's someone who chooses the alcoholic. :D Or it's the alcohol-drinker who chooses something. And that something is presumably alcohol. What do you guys think? I'm ok with Zach's (and my) response being negged. But I think I'd be ok if they'd accepted it too. It's interesting that they used "chooses" right there in the clue. I wonder if they did that to steer us away from a response with "chooser" in it. Steered ME right toward it!

It was interesting to see the following clue play out: EVEN WITHOUT A "RE", THIS VERB MEANS TO SAY SOMETHING AGAIN & AGAIN & AGAIN &... Zach said "what is reiterate?" and was correctly ruled incorrect. Back in November we discussed a similar clue: WITH OR WITHOUT A PREFATORY "ONE", IT'S THE ART OF GAINING AN ADVANTAGE. In that case, though, the "with or without" made either response permissible:
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Upmanship (the actual response given and accepted) or one-upmanship.
Some posters disagreed and thought only the first response was acceptable. Today, there was no ambiguity in the clue. What is iterate?" was the only correct response. (Well, and "Who is iterate?" and "Would that be iterate, Alex?" etc. etc.)

Ran the Shakespear"M" category.

Lastly, in the NASCAR category, I'd just like to point out that the flat piece on the rear deck lid that helps increase traction is called a
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Re: Monday, July 4, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Abraxas » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:34 pm

Congrats to Liz on her win. I had 48 correct responses including three triple stumpers: liquor picker, Lake Itasca, and Clark Gable. I also got FJ.

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Post by econgator » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:38 pm

opusthepenguin wrote: Lastly, in the NASCAR category, I'd just like to point out that the flat piece on the rear deck lid that helps increase traction is called a
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Well done, sir!

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:13 pm

America, fuck yeah~

Didn't know Harvard was crimson.

Stupidly said Mercutio for Montague.

Cord cutters baffle me.

Liquor picker was an easy miss at $200. I just couldn't get past "booze" myself.

Failing to BMS to blue whale ("wait, isn't there just one kind of whale?") and outright not knowing "pup" (way too generic a word to pin to armadillo) left me at 3/5.

Strangely, Itasca was my only get in the IT category.

No guess on FJ! I honestly didn't know that the attraction was actually called that.
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Post by Spaceman Spiff » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:43 pm

FJ wasn't an instaget - I originally thought of the GE Carousel of Progress, which is also a refugee from the 1964 World's Fair, but realized that had been dismantled long ago, and thus was pretty obscure. Then I remembered Small World was also at the Fair, and went with that.

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Post by Elijah Baley » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:50 pm

Hmm, a Disneyland attraction involving children and the world?

Another case where it helps not to overthink it.

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Post by Bamaman » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:52 pm

My last visit to Disney World was over 31 years ago and I'm not a big fan of Disney in general, but I got this one. I started out with Tomorrowland, but that is a park section and not a single ride. I got It's a Small World, but wasn't sure that was the exact name.

Was Justin playing while sitting in a chair?

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Post by econgator » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:56 pm

Instaget FJ. I forget what I was reading, but it was something about how UNICEF requested Disney not copyright the song so that it could remain free for all.

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Post by grindcore » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:02 pm

I think boozer chooser is acceptable. As in "singer-songwriter", it can mean someone who drinks, and chooses.

My eyes darted to "UNICEF" before Alex was finished reading two words and that was all I needed.

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Post by dhkendall » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:32 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:Cord cutters baffle me.
As I. The only reason I haven't cut the cord yet is because I'd miss out on Jeopardy!

How in the blue blazes did I run the NASCAR category?????

My getting Disneyland and Disney World mixed up bit me in the ass again. I spent at least 20 seconds convinced of my EPCOT answer. I realized in a panic that EPCOT is at Disney World not Disneyland and hastily scribbled in "What is Cinderella's Castle?" (in about as clear handwriting as Zach's) to think of a Disneyland attraction, pretty much knowing full well that a) the Castle was there at the parks' opening, and b) it's actually Sleeping Beauty's Castle (which I actually realized at second 31, but I knew it was wrong anyways.)

BTW, for those of you who want a handy trick of keeping the American Disney theme parks straight, what I often use (and should have earlier today) is this:

Disney World is in Orlando.
Disneyland is in LA. (Well, in the LA metropolitan area).
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Post by triviawayne » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:38 pm

I'm not sure they should be asking about racing again:

They were measuring banking in percentage instead of degrees; and the window netting is for keeping a drivers HEAD inside the car, it's not about arms. Someone was killed when their head hit a concrete wall on a side impact long before the Petty incident. Of course the netting may have only become mandatory after that time; NASCAR never has been proactive about safety.
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Post by CailinGaoilge » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:43 pm

dhkendall wrote:
TenPoundHammer wrote:Cord cutters baffle me.
As I. The only reason I haven't cut the cord yet is because I'd miss out on Jeopardy!
Indeed - but clearly Justin finds ways of watching J! regardless. I'm actually surprised they let that anecdote air.
dhkendall wrote:My getting Disneyland and Disney World mixed up bit me in the ass again. I spent at least 20 seconds convinced of my EPCOT answer. I realized in a panic that EPCOT is at Disney World not Disneyland and hastily scribbled in "What is Cinderella's Castle?" (in about as clear handwriting as Zach's) to think of a Disneyland attraction, pretty much knowing full well that a) the Castle was there at the parks' opening, and b) it's actually Sleeping Beauty's Castle (which I actually realized at second 31, but I knew it was wrong anyways.)
I've only ever been to Disney in Orlando, but got It's A Small World instantly. If I recall correctly, from the one occasion I let myself be dragged onto the ride, there is some UNICEF signage or information in the queuing area.

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Post by dhkendall » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:50 pm

CailinGaoilge wrote:
dhkendall wrote:
TenPoundHammer wrote:Cord cutters baffle me.
As I. The only reason I haven't cut the cord yet is because I'd miss out on Jeopardy!
Indeed - but clearly Justin finds ways of watching J! regardless. I'm actually surprised they let that anecdote air.
I was equally surprised.

If it, however, came down to a choice of missing J! entirely, or only catching it while exercising on a treadmill every day ...

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... hold on, I'm still thinking about it. Can I get back to you on that?
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Post by davey » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:50 pm

"It's a Small World" was one of the first attractions I ever saw at Disney World the year it opened - maybe the only one with no line! So I've been prepared for this clue for 45 years...

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Post by dinghammer » Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:52 pm

Instaget FJ, though I also said "The DuPont Pavilion" as a joke.
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Re: Monday, July 4, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MarkBarrett » Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:04 pm

Bamaman wrote: Was Justin playing while sitting in a chair?
Justin was clearly standing up when Alex came out at the beginning. Usually if someone is sitting the tips at the back of the chair are visible at some point. There was a lady who was sitting in April or May (or March if time is really flying by). No mention was made during the game, so I did not bring it up here.

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No matter how favorable the FJ! round category I should use the break to brainstorm possible responses. It's fair game to do on the show, so I often do it at home as well since I watch without a fast-forward button in use.

Tonight my reaction was, "I'll get it. I can't lose 7-streak on that one." I used the break to fill in the shell I prepare ahead of time for "theFJguy" post.

When I saw the clue I did not know it. I thought about attractions already mentioned here in Tomorrowland (plus Adeventure Thru Inner Space). I considered Abe Lincoln. Everything that came to me had specific names or sponsors that J! would never ask for without giving the contestants a helping hand.

On a second reading of the clue I wised up and translated UNICEF to Children's to realize what I needed to write to be correct. Even though I got it right and in under 10 seconds it almost feels like a partial fail since it took "so long" to solve it.

Liz won and the gentlemen have DD responses and/or wagers to revisit for missing out on a chance to win. Zach at least has 37K+ to get over his troubles while Justin went out in his one shot on the type of FJ! clue I categorize as the type family, friends, and co-workers will have solved or widely claimed to have solved.

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Post by IronNeck » Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:40 pm

Probably the best game I've seen in a long time.

Fine play by all three contestants. Loved Zach's hunt for the Daily Doubles and accurate betting. Unfortunately, he was upended by a few costly misses. Jason was very knowledgeable and fast on the buzzer. Liz was a solid player who got the win from the crushed position.

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