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Friday, September 23, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:30 am

Game Recap for Show #7365, 2016-09-23

Seth Wilson game 5.

CONTESTANTS
Charlie Geer, an affordable housing development analyst from Columbus, Ohio
Elena Stuewe, a resident physician from Birmingham, Alabama
Seth Wilson, a Ph.D. candidate from Chicago, Illinois (whose 4-day cash winnings total $105,800)

OPENING REMARKS
Alex: Thank you, Johnny Gilbert. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Someone in our studio audience asked me recently if, even though I've hosted the program for over 32 years, I was still having fun. And I said, "Of course, I am." And the reason is, I love spending time with bright people, like our current champion, winning over $100,000 in just four days of competition. We know that Elena and Charlie are bright also. Otherwise, they wouldn't have qualified to be contestants on the program. Let's go to work. Now the categories for the Jeopardy! Round...

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
4-LETTER U.S. CITIES (4/5)
NOT A REAL MUPPET OR SESAME STREET CHARACTER (4/5) (Alex: We'll give you some choices.)
GETTING FROM HERE TO THERE (3/5)
A HOMOPHONE OF A PAST TENSE VERB (3/4)
ANIMALS (5/5)
IT'S PLAIN TO SEE IT'S 33 (5/5, including 1 correct Daily Double) (Alex: I think as a nod to our 33rd season of Jeopardy! programs.)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Seth: 14 R (including 1 rebound and 1 DD), 1 W
Elena: 4 R (including 2 rebounds), 1 W
Charlie: 6 R, 4 W

Clues revealed: 29
Triple Stumpers: 5
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $4,000



SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
Seth: $3,600
Elena: $1,800
Charlie: -$400

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Alex: Although Charlie Geer is from Columbus, Ohio, he tells us that his favorite job of all time was as a New York City bike messenger. I always thought that was a dangerous job.

Charlie: I've had a few, uh...

Alex: Accidents?

Charlie: [Overlapping] Close encounters.

Alex: Yeah?

Charlie: I had a few accidents, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Alex: Did you push the envelope from time to time? Did you take chances you didn't really have to take?

Charlie: Well, the more deliveries you make, the more money you make...

Alex: Ah.

Charlie: So... yes. But I still do that, though, now that I'm not getting paid to ride my bike.

Alex: [Chuckles] Oh. Okay, all right. Good having you here.




Alex: Elena Stuewe is a resident physician from Alabama. And you had a mishap just before you started your residency, and it was from one of your favorite beings.

Elena: Yes. Uh, I had just moved from Illinois to start residency down at UAB, and so my first day of work, I had to run out to the moving truck and get some of my clothes. When I came back, the front door was locked. Turns out that my dog had jumped up, hit the dead bolt with her paw, and locked me out of the house. Luckily, my boyfriend, Dave, was also locked out with me, and he saved the day by kicking down our own door.

Alex: Oh, well, that's a great way to start in a new town.




Alex: Okay, Seth Wilson is our champion. He's earned a lot of money, and he likes show business. You were a Christmas elf.

Seth: I was, yes.

Alex: And when did this happen?

Seth: Uh, when I was in high school, there was a hotel in my hometown that would--they had a Santa in the lobby, and then they also provided a service where they would hire high school students to dress as Christmas elves and come and tuck children into bed and read them a bedtime story and give them a gingerbread cookie.

Alex: Oh, gosh. You were doing good work.

Seth: Yes.

Alex: All right, and once again, as we come out of this first commercial break, you just happen to be in command of the board. So go ahead and make a selection, and we'll go on.

JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Seth found the Daily Double on the 18th clue. Seth had $4,200, Elena had $800, and Charlie had a deficit with -$1,400. Seth wagered $1,500.

IT'S PLAIN TO SEE IT'S 33 $600: "The 33" is a film based on a real-life copper mine collapse that trapped 33 miners underground in this country
(Alex: [*] in South America, yes. Very uplifting film.)

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
NOT A REAL MUPPET OR SESAME STREET CHARACTER $800: Pretzels,
Sweetums,
Foo Foo

4-LETTER U.S. CITIES $1000: The business center of "The Big Island", it's also the gateway to Hawaii Volcanoes National Park
(Charlie: What is Oahu?)
(Elena: What is Kona?)
...
(Alex: How many more 4-letter words are there?)

GETTING FROM HERE TO THERE $600: This airline was formed in 1946 from the national airlines of Denmark, Sweden & Norway
(Charlie: What is KLM?)
...
(Alex: Less than a minute to go now, Seth.)

GETTING FROM HERE TO THERE $1000: Set adrift, Capt. Bligh sailed 3,600 miles in the 20-foot ship's boat called this, also a verb meaning to set sail
(Alex: One category still in play, Seth.)

A HOMOPHONE OF A PAST TENSE VERB $600: On the periodic table, it could also be interpreted as "escorted"

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
Seth: $7,900
Elena: $1,800
Charlie: -$600

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Re: Friday, September 23, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:30 am

DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
IN PRAISE OF OLDER WRITERS (5/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
MED. ABBREV. (4/5)
MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS (3/4, including 1 correct Daily Double)
THE MOVIE'S TITLE CHARACTER (4/5) (Alex: You identify the movie.)
THE "SYM"s (5/5)
REMEMBERING WORLD WAR I (5/5) (Jimmy: 100 years later, from the National World War I Museum and Memorial.)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Seth: 11 R (including 1 rebound and 1 DD), 0 W
Charlie: 9 R, 1 W
Elena: 6 R (including 1 DD), 0 W

Clues revealed: 29
Triple Stumpers: 3
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $6,000



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Seth snagged the next Daily Double on the 10th clue. Seth had $9,900, Elena had $5,000, and Charlie was at $4,200. Seth wagered $2,000.

IN PRAISE OF OLDER WRITERS $1200: In his 90s, this Irish playwright was still writing comedies like "Far-Fetched Fables"

SECOND DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
It was Elena who snatched up the last Daily Double of the game on the 26th clue. Seth had $20,300, Elena had $9,400, and Charlie was at $4,600. Elena made it a True Daily Double, wagering $9,400.

MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS $1600: The oud, of the Middle East, is a member of this stringed instrument family with a 4-letter name
(Alex: We have less than a minute now. Pick again.)

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
MED. ABBREV. $2000: Fx means this, perhaps the Pott's type

THE MOVIE'S TITLE CHARACTER $2000: Navin R. Johnson, the son of black sharecroppers
(1979)

MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS $2000: This traditional Japanese musical instrument whose name means "3 strings" is used for party songs & storytelling

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
Seth: $21,900
Elena: $18,800
Charlie: $4,600

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
AFRICAN GEOGRAPHY

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
Four-fifths for first place. Shore's Conjecture.
Seth: Wager $15,701 to cover Elena. Or, you could try out a Shoretegic bet of $6,501.
Elena: Your score is within 4/5ths of Seth's, so wager between $6,201 (venusian) and $9,599 (martian), beating Seth's maximum safe bet of the difference between your scores while still covering against a doubled score on Charlie's part.
Charlie: You just can't cover a rational wager by Elena, nor can you win on a Triple Stumper. Improve your situation by wagering everything but a few bucks--and then getting Final right!

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
The Zambezi River reaches the ocean in this country that lends its name to the body of water where it happens

FINAL SCORES
Charlie: $4,600 - $1,601 = $2,999 (What is) (3rd place)
Elena: $18,800 - $3,101 = $15,699 (What is South Afri) (2nd place)
Seth: $21,900 - $0 = $21,900 (What is Zambia?) (105801-day champion: $21,900)
(Alex: It helps if you know that the Zambezi River flows in an easterly direction.)
...
(Alex: [To Seth] No, that's inland. [*] is the country. The [*] Strait right between [*] and Madagascar.)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $10,000

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
Seth: $20,200, 25 R (including 2 DDs), 1 W
Elena: $11,000, 10 R (including 1 DD), 1 W
Charlie: $4,600, 15 R, 5 W
Combined Coryat: $35,800

BATTING AVERAGES
Seth: 25/60 = .417
Charlie: 15/58 = .259
Elena: 10/59 = .169
Team: 50/63 = .794

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
NOT A REAL MUPPET OR SESAME STREET CHARACTER $600: Dr. Strangepork,
Dr. Oss-a-Lot,
Dr. Honeydew
(Charlie: What is Dr.... Strangepork?)

NOT A REAL MUPPET OR SESAME STREET CHARACTER $1000: Owl Jolson,
Placido Flamingo,
Polly Darton
(Seth: What is Polly Darton?)

ANIMALS $600: Pinnipeds, meaning "flipper-footed", include sea lions, seals & these, of the family Odobenus
(Charlie: What are manatees?)

A HOMOPHONE OF A PAST TENSE VERB $800: This household helper sounds as if she was fashioned
[The end-of-round signal sounds.]

THE "SYM"s $1200: Adjective for a relationship that may be beneficial to both individuals involved
(Charlie: [*]?... Symbiosis? [*]? What is [*]?)
(Alex: Oh, you got it in! And you remembered to phrase it properly.)

THE "SYM"s $1600: A meeting of experts to discuss a specific subject
(Elena: Medical Abbreviations, $1,600.)
(Alex: I thought you might go to that category.)

REMEMBERING WORLD WAR I $400: (Jimmy of the Clue Crew reports from the Nat'l WWI Museum & Memorial in Kansas City, MO.) The Liberty Memorial at the National World War I Museum was built as a monument to the men and women who served in the war; in 1926, in front of a crowd of 150,000, this president broke his notorious silence to dedicate the memorial

REMEMBERING WORLD WAR I $800: (Jimmy of the Clue Crew reports from the Nat'l WWI Museum & Memorial in Kansas City, MO.) Even before the U.S. entry into the war, Americans were volunteering to drive Red Cross ambulances; one such adventurer was this 18-year-old, who was badly wounded in a mortar attack in Italy, nearly costing the U.S. a future Nobel Prize in Literature

REMEMBERING WORLD WAR I $1200: (Jimmy of the Clue Crew reports from the Nat'l WWI Museum & Memorial in Kansas City, MO.) The German model 1902 field Howitzer could hurl a 95-pound shell nearly 5 miles; because of their power & black smoke, the incoming rounds got this nickname among the allied troops after the hard-hitting African-American heavyweight champion of the era
[The surname alone was not accepted and Alex did not prompt.]

REMEMBERING WORLD WAR I $1600: (Jimmy of the Clue Crew reports from the Nat'l WWI Museum & Memorial in Kansas City, MO.) The museum's Horizon Theater features a vivid recreation of the dangerous battle-scarred landscape between opposing lines known by this 3-word name
(Charlie: What is trench warfare?)

REMEMBERING WORLD WAR I $2000: (Kelly of the Clue Crew reports from the Nat'l WWI Museum & Memorial in Kansas City, MO.) The tunic & cap belonged to this Prussian aristocrat who led Germany's wartime military dictatorship, gave his name to an ill-fated aircraft & appointed Adolf Hitler as Germany's chancellor

MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS $1200: Found in many ancient cultures, this oddly-shaped wind instrument is also called a sweet potato

MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS $400: This wind instrument has a long blues tradition with players like Little Walter
[The end-of-round signal sounds.]

CORRECT RESPONSES
Chile
Pretzels
Hilo
SAS (Scandinavian Airline Systems)
launch
lead
(George Bernard) Shaw
a lute
fracture
The Jerk
the shamisen
Mozambique
Dr. Oss-a-Lot
Owl Jolson
walruses
maid
symbiotic
symposium
Calvin Coolidge
(Ernest) Hemingway
Jack Johnson
no man's land
(Paul von) Hindenburg
an ocarina
a harmonica

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Final Jeopardy! Round

Post by theFJguy » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:31 am

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
AFRICAN GEOGRAPHY

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
The Zambezi River reaches the ocean in this country that lends its name to the body of water where it happens

Seth Wilson: 21900-0=21900 (5x = $127,700)
Elena Stuewe: 18800-3101=15699
Charlie Geer: 4600-1601=2999

Correct response:
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Mozambique (Seth - Zambia) (Elena - South Afr[another letter - tough to decipher]) (Charlie - What is)

Daily Doubles
Seth: 4200+1500
Seth: 9900+2000
Elena: 9400+9400

Coryats
Seth: 20200
Elena: 11000
Charlie: 4600

Combined: 35,800
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Re: Friday, September 23, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by gamawire » Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:50 pm

I knew they'd find a way to mess up my perfect FJ week - oh, well. Guess the champ didn't like the category either. Congrats on becoming a five-time champ, Seth!
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Re: Friday, September 23, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by OSXpert » Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:38 pm

Instaguess FJ since I have heard of the Mozambique Channel, and none of the other bodies of water made sense to me.

I like Seth well enough, but a True Daily Double late in the game made me root for his competitor - lute was a nice pull (I said harp).

Congrats on 5 wins.

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Re: Friday, September 23, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by xxaaaxx » Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:40 pm

Welcome to the TOC Seth. Given the variability in clue difficulty, even within seemingly difficult categories, I don't think there's any category that would make me say "f... that" and bet 0 from the lead, but it worked out today. Figures that second place rejects the usual suicide wager on a TS and still loses.

I thought for sure they'd ask for a capital. Zambezi huh? Alrighty. I basically WAGged that it emptied out to the east, and double WAGged that the body of water they were talking about was the bit between Mozambique and Madagascar. I'll take it.

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Re: Friday, September 23, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by alamble » Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:01 pm

The writing staff really needs to get better fact-checkers, because Chris Farley was still very much alive - at age 28 - in 1992.

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Re: Friday, September 23, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by mxc_takeshi » Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:07 pm

39/58 right.

US Cities (4), Sesame/Muppet (3), Here (3), Verb (2), Animals (4), 33 (4)
Water (3), Med (3), Music (1), Title (4), "SYM" (4), World War I (4)

Lach Trash: Pretzels

I remembered the Zambezi being in the southeastern part of Africa, so I made a good guess.

I did notice the error with the Chris Farley clue; even though they spotted me the word "hefty", I was thrown off by the wrong date since I knew that he died in 1997.
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Re: Friday, September 23, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by clprez » Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:11 pm

Seth sure didn't show his relief until after the correct answer was revealed. I'd have a hard time keeping it in after Elena was incorrect.

So glad to see her go all in on that DD. I guessed harp.

It was hard to watch her ring in because she made such a big gesture that she almost always rang in after the other two. I wonder if anybody coaches you in practice.

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Re: Friday, September 23, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by hbomb1947 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:44 pm

alamble wrote:The writing staff really needs to get better fact-checkers, because Chris Farley was still very much alive - at age 28 - in 1992.
1992 did seem kind of early.

My FJ precalls included the Gulf of Guinea but not the Mozambique Channel. However, based on where Zambia is, I figured the Zambezi would likely flow into that body of water between southeast Africa and Madagascar. It wasn't a complete instaget because it took me several seconds to parse the wording of the clue. Anyway, I get to check off the 5-for-5 box this week. Yay me!

Good game! Props to Elena for strategically fighting her way back and almost pulling off the victory. (I got lute on the DD, after wavering between it and lyre.) And I certainly didn't see Seth's zero-dollar wager coming -- what a contrast from his wagers in his first two games. Conversely, after applauding him for going all-in on a DD yesterday when he had a substantial lead in the single-J! round, I was surprised to see him only wager $1,500 in a similar situation today.

Congrats to Seth on locking up a TOC spot, although he was already pretty much assured of being in after yesterday's game. We can argue later about where he ranks among the people in the current TOC field. I have to admit, I've had my doubts about his knowledge base, but he had some good gets today. He's not a LLama, so that makes it more difficult to assess his strengths and weaknesses in various areas of knowledge. :)
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Re: Friday, September 23, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by TenPoundHammer » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:18 pm

Chris Farley died in 1997, not 1992!! How the hell did they make that mistake?!?

Didn't recognize any of the three in Muppet/Sesame for $600. Or $800. Or $1,000.

Ran Animals.

Hilo wasn't coming to me. I was stumped after the two negs.

Lach trash: lead.

Ashamed that I blanked on "Deadpool", since I enjoyed that movie.

I thought "the R in MRSA" was harder than rheumatoid arthritis or human growth hormone.

NHO "Shamisen" so I'm slightly less miffed at the invocation of TPH's Law of Jeopardy (namely, that the one category you are the most excited about will always be the one that they run out of time for).

"Body of water where WHAT happens?!?" was all I could think this whole time. I don't even understand the clue. Explain?
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Post by Category 13 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:55 pm

mxc_takeshi wrote: I did notice the error with the Chris Farley clue; even though they spotted me the word "hefty", I was thrown off by the wrong date since I knew that he died in 1997.
Wrong date through me off as well. "Hefty" lead me to wonder if John Candy had been an SNL cast member for a limited time, although I was sure he wasn't.

Seth's final wager took guts but I was relieved to see it. Although he would have had a better chance at winning if he bet $5 -$3000.
With the exception of the Sesame Street category, he displayed a good sense of staying clam. I think he is getting better at that aspect in each game.

I was answering the WWI clues before Jimmy had them half read. TOMs seemed too easy. I got Calvin Coolidge as soon as I heard 1926.

Picked up the lach trash on 'The Jerk'.

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Post by Volante » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:34 pm

alamble wrote:The writing staff really needs to get better fact-checkers, because Chris Farley was still very much alive - at age 28 - in 1992.
Yeah, I'm counting that one right even though I said John Candy (d1994), cause it was the date that lead me from Farley. That's a pretty awful miss by the writers. The science clue vagaries are one thing, that was a flat out whiff. WORSE there was no clarification (unless it was done after the credits...)
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Re: Friday, September 23, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by IronNeck » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:39 pm

Category 13 wrote: Picked up the lach trash on 'The Jerk'.
Felt bad about missing that, especially as it cost me a category sweep.

Also surprised that the resident physician missed the "FX" clue. My girlfriend, who works as a vet tech, got it instantly. Props to her for the correct true DD bet.

Was really annoyed at Seth's tiny DD bet during the regular Jeopardy board. A 4k lead that early means next to nothing. You're just trying to get the highest possible amount early, not comparing where you are relative to the other two. It could have cost him the game.

His 2k bet with 10k was poor too, but at least borderline defensible. However, the sum total of those mistakes was at least another 6k left on the board, which not only would have meant more money won if he stuck with the $0 FJ bet, but would have given him the crush situation to boot.

Nevertheless, props to him for becoming a super-champion. Good knowledge combined with lightning buzzer reactions can make up for poor wagering, as he and others have proved.

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:48 pm

I don't even understand the FJ! clue. Explain it to me?
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Re: Friday, September 23, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MarkBarrett » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:53 pm

I got Chris Farley although I was thrown by 1992 thinking it seemed too early. John Candy also came through my thought path, but by the time Alex finished the clue I went for Farley figuring my death-ometer must be off. Shame on whoever is to blame among the writers/researchers/data entry members. There are too many people who have been doing their jobs too long for that to make it on the air.

Charlie, his job story, appearance and demeanor almost had me thinking Real World San Francisco Puck snuck on the show.

Mozambique for me thanks to being aware there is a Mozambique Channel with it being mentioned in an earlier 2016 clue. Like others it completed a 5/5 week, so I'm glad to have that seasonal goal already checked off in week 2.

Tonight's audience was quite boisterous and seemed to react with equal enthusiasm for Elena's all-in DD wager and Seth's 5th win.

Seth set himself up for intimidation factor with the new taping day's pool of players at some point being hit with the news of a 5x champ who has won six figures. No one wants to hear their names for first up in that situation.

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Post by opusthepenguin » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:02 pm

OSXpert wrote:I like Seth well enough, but a True Daily Double late in the game made me root for his competitor - lute was a nice pull (I said harp).
Lyre.

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Re: Friday, September 23, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Bob78164 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:15 pm

This game is a draw for the Intermediate Form of Shore's Conjecture. The second-place player bet "small." --Bob

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Post by This Is Kirk! » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:46 pm

The only ocean feature I could think of in Africa with the same name as a country was the Bight of Benin, so I guessed Benin. I was only off by a couple thousand miles or so.

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Re: Friday, September 23, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by bpmod » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:48 pm

alamble wrote:The writing staff really needs to get better fact-checkers, because Chris Farley was still very much alive - at age 28 - in 1992.
Maybe that was intentional. To go along with that Ancestry.com spot they have been running of late.

I cannot possibly be the only one who is bothered by such blatant bunk being spewed within a show that is (normally) quite stringent about facts.

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