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Monday, October 24, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:30 am

Game Recap for Show #7386, 2016-10-24

CONTESTANTS
Norm Burnosky, a corporate tax analyst from Reston, Virginia
Susan Logan, a stay-at-home mom from Glenview, Illinois
Lani Gonzalez, a managing director of an art bazaar from Austin, Texas (whose 1-day cash winnings total $16,800)

OPENING REMARKS
Alex: Thank you, Johnny Gilbert. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome, everyone, to our program. Can't believe how quickly this year is passing by. Just two months to go before Christmas. Lani, good to see you again. Susan and norm, welcome aboard and good luck. Here we go. Now here are the categories for the first round today...

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
THE GIG ECONOMY (3/5)
CHARACTERS IN CHILDREN'S LITERATURE (4/5)
SCENE IT (5/5) (Alex: Then, we'll [*] for you. You name the film for us.)
ETIQUETTE (5/5)
ISLANDS (3/4, including 1 correct Daily Double)
IN COGNITO (4/5) (Alex: Each correct response will be a shorter word than can be made up of the letters you find in the word "cognito".)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Lani: 12 R (including 1 rebound), 1 W
Susan: 7 R (including 1 rebound), 2 W
Norm: 5 R (including 1 DD), 0 W

Clues revealed: 29
Triple Stumpers: 5
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $3,800



SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
Lani: $5,000
Susan: $2,000
Norm: $1,000

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Alex: Norm Burnosky is a corporate tax analyst from Reston, Virginia. Norm, I'm gonna put you on the spot.

Norm: Okay.

Alex: Corporate taxes in America--should they go down or up?

Norm: It's a very multifaceted question. There'd have to be clear winners and losers. The tax rate does swing higher and lower. But overall, probably a slight reduction into corporate tax rate, with some added benefits for, um, for corporations and individuals, while making it easier, it would definitely make it, uh, probably a more preferable system than otherwise.

Alex: Yeah. Make us more competitive with other countries.

Norm: Exactly.

Alex: Okay. Thank you. Put you on the spot, you handled it well.

Norm: Thank you.




Alex: Susan Logan is a stay-at-home mom. Happy birthday. Today, I know, is your birthday.

Susan: Thank you very much, Alex.

Alex: Now at your audition for our show...

Susan: Right.

Alex: ...you were with child.

Susan: I was.

Alex: But you didn't tell anybody.

Susan: Oh, we hadn't told anyone yet. And this was with our first, uh, son. And the producers asked, "Oh, if you won any money on the show, what would you spend it on?" And before I could even think, I said, "Well, probably diapers."

[Chuckles]

Susan: Uh, and we hadn't told anyone yet, so it was news to the Jeopardy! staff long before anyone else.

Alex: But good news.

Susan: Yes, very.

Alex: Good news. Very good news.




Alex: Lani Gonzalez is our champion. She and her husband eloped. Now when you think of young couples eloping, you think, "Oh, they're--they're running away. They're doing it fast." Well, she did it, because... what were you wearing?

Lani: Well, I wore sneakers. [Laughs] But, uh, that wasn't the original plan. Um, we had decided to take a trip to Virginia and Washington D.C. and after a week of sightseeing, my feet were so covered in blisters, that was really all I could wear. [Laughs]

Alex: Okay. Thank you for the explanation.

JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Norm found the Daily Double on the 18th clue. Lani had $5,000, Susan had $3,000, and Norm was at $1,600. Norm made it a True Daily Double, wagering $1,600.

ISLANDS $800: These islands were uninhabited when Portugal claimed them in 1431; they are now home to a quarter of a million people

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
CHARACTERS IN CHILDREN'S LITERATURE $1000: She is "exquisitely gowned in a skeleton leaf... through which her figure could be seen to the best advantage"

IN COGNITO $400: In sum it precedes "ergo"
(Susan: What is cognito... ergo sum?)

ISLANDS $600: Logically, it's the main island of Canada's second-biggest metropolis

THE GIG ECONOMY $800: The Bolt DVR from this video recording pioneer unifies your TV watching with its minimum 500 GB hard drive

THE GIG ECONOMY $1000: Here's the "deal"--NVIDIA's GeForce GTX TITAN Z, one of these, has 12 gigs of memory & is billed as a "gaming monster"

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
Lani: $5,600
Susan: $4,200
Norm: $3,200

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Post by Archivists » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:30 am

DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
THE NEW GOLDEN AGE OF TELEVISION (4/5)
THE SOPRANOS (3/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
HOUSE OF CARDS (4/5)
VEEP (2/5)
THE "AMERICAN"S (5/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
BREAKING BAD (3/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Lani: 12 R (including 1 rebound and 2 DDs), 2 W
Susan: 4 R, 0 W
Norm: 5 R, 1 W

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 9
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $14,800



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Lani snagged the next Daily Double on the 8th clue. Lani had $10,800, Susan had $5,000, and Norm was at $5,200. Lani wagered $2,000.

THE "AMERICAN"S $1600: James Truslow Adams popularized this phrase, a hope for life "richer and fuller... with opportunity for each"

SECOND DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
It was Lani who snatched up the last Daily Double of the game on the 30th clue. Lani had $16,800, Susan had $6,600, and Norm was at $6,800. Lani wagered $2,000.

THE SOPRANOS $800: Kathleen Battle excelled in Mozart operas like this one where she was Susanna, whose wedding is alluded to in the title

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
THE NEW GOLDEN AGE OF TELEVISION $2000: She's breaking boundaries as Litchfield prisoner Sophia Burset on "Orange Is the New Black"

HOUSE OF CARDS $1600: Chemin de Fer & punto banco are related to this card game whose magic number is 9, & you can take that to its bank

VEEP $1200: Seen here are GOP rivals--Vice President Nixon & this future '70s veep

VEEP $1600: She's seen here with hubby Juan, shortly before becoming his V.P. in 1973, & his successor in 1974
(Lani: Who is Perón?)
(Alex: Be more specific.)
(Lani: Eva Perón?)

VEEP $2000: President Truman & this veep of his, a former Kentucky senator, are all smiles on inauguration day

BREAKING BAD $1200: In 1985 this Redskin QB's career came to a gruesome end when he broke his leg on "Monday Night Football"

BREAKING BAD $2000: When the bone breaks only on one side, it gets this "colorful" name that's fit for the forest

THE SOPRANOS $2000: This Down Under diva with a Maori name had an over 30-year career on the opera stage

THE SOPRANOS $1200: Born in Laurel, Mississippi, she broke ground as one of the first African Americans to achieve world fame in opera
(Lani: Who is Marian Anderson?)

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
Lani: $18,800 (lock game)
Norm: $6,800
Susan: $6,600

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
ANIMALS

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
Lock for first place; three-quarters for second place.
Lani: Wager between $0 (venusian) and $5,199 (martian), and enjoy your victory.
Norm: Wager $6,401 to cover Susan.
Susan: Risk between $201 and $6,200, covering Norm's $0 bet.

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
In Greek myth she was a half-serpent & mother of the Sphinx; in zoology it's a weird mammal that lays eggs

FINAL SCORES
Susan: $6,600 + $6,599 = $13,199 (What is an echidna?) (2nd place)
Norm: $6,800 - $6,600 = $200 (What is Medusa) (3rd place)
Lani: $18,800 - $0 = $18,800 (What is a Platypus?) (16801-day champion: $18,800)
(Alex: There are only two egg-laying mammals.)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $18,600

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
Lani: $17,200, 24 R (including 2 DDs), 3 W
Susan: $6,600, 11 R, 2 W
Norm: $6,000, 10 R (including 1 DD), 1 W
Combined Coryat: $29,800

BATTING AVERAGES
Lani: 24/60 = .400
Susan: 12/58 = .207
Norm: 10/59 = .169
Team: 46/63 = .730

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
SCENE IT $1000: 1964:
President Muffley makes an emergency call to Premier Kissoff
(Alex: That's it. You don't have to give us the full title.)
[Laughter]
(Lani: Thank you. )

ETIQUETTE $400: (Kelly of the Clue Crew shows a place setting.) Set silverware on the table in the order of use--first course fork on the far left, the knife on the right, the spoon on the right of the knife, & utensils for this go horizontally above the plate

IN COGNITO $1000: This hybrid offspring of two big cats
(Lani: Oh, shoot. [Laughs] What is a liger?)

THE GIG ECONOMY $400: In 1995 this type of disc debuted; it looked like a CD but could store 4.7 gigs of digital video
(Susan: What is a laserdisc?)
...
(Alex: Less than a minute now.)

ISLANDS $400: New York City's highest natural point is Todt Hill, on this island reachable by ferry
[The end-of-round signal sounds.]

VEEP $400: In 1962, astronaut John Glenn & his wife went for a ride with this vice president

VEEP $800: Anwar Sadat is seen here riding in 1981 with this vice president of his, who would succeed him later that day
(Norm: Who is Nasser?)

HOUSE OF CARDS $800: From the layout of the cards, it's the name of the solitaire game seen here

THE "AMERICAN"S $800: Espresso topped off with hot water
(Alex: Less than a minute now.)

CORRECT RESPONSES
the Azores
Tinker Bell
cogito
Montreal Island
TiVo
a graphics card
the American dream
The Marriage of Figaro
Laverne Cox
baccarat
Nelson Rockefeller
Isabel Perón
Alben Barkley
Joe Theismann
greenstick
Kiri Te Kanawa
Leontyne Price
Echidna
Dr. Strangelove
dessert
a tigon
a DVD
Staten Island
LBJ
(Hosni) Mubarak
pyramid solitaire
an americano

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Final Jeopardy! Round

Post by theFJguy » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:31 am

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
ANIMALS

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
In Greek myth she was a half-serpent & mother of the Sphinx; in zoology it's a weird mammal that lays eggs

Lani Gonzalez: 18800-0=18800-Now a 2-day champ with $35,600
Susan Logan: 6600+6599=13199
Norm Burnonsky: 6800-6600=200

Correct response:
Spoiler
Show
echidna (Norm-Medusa) (Lani-platypus)
Daily Doubles
Norm: 1600+1600
Lani: 10800+2000
Lani: 16800+2000

Coryats
Lani: 17200
Susan: 6600
Norm: 6000

Combined: 29,800
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Re: Monday, October 24, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by TenPoundHammer » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:27 pm

Alien was my only get in Scene It, and the only 5 of those that I've seen.

NHO "Little Princess", didn't know Tinker Bell was in literature too.

Ring bearer was my only miss in Etiquette, surprisingly. Also missed only goon in Cognito, and graphics card in Gig.

Not an iota of recognition in that Golden Age category.

Baccarat was my only miss in Cards.

There's more than one Perón?

Lach Trash: Cogito, TiVo, greenstick.

Echidna or platypus? Echidna or platypus? Platypus it is. WHY DO I ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS LOSE THE GODDAMN COIN FLIP WHY CAN'T I EVER PICK THE RIGHT ANSWER BETWEEN ONLY TWO POSSIBLE CHOICES GOD DAMN IT WHY AM I SO INCAPABLE OF CHOOSING RIGHT I ONLY HAD TWO CHOICES AND STILL GOT THE DAMN THING WRONG ESPECIALLY IN A WHEELHOUSE CATEGORY DAMN IT DAMN IT DAMN IT WERKADHSRADSHFSDJKL
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Post by silverscreentest » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:00 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote: Echidna or platypus? Echidna or platypus? Platypus it is. WHY DO I ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS LOSE THE GODDAMN COIN FLIP WHY CAN'T I EVER PICK THE RIGHT ANSWER BETWEEN ONLY TWO POSSIBLE CHOICES GOD DAMN IT WHY AM I SO INCAPABLE OF CHOOSING RIGHT I ONLY HAD TWO CHOICES AND STILL GOT THE DAMN THING WRONG ESPECIALLY IN A WHEELHOUSE CATEGORY DAMN IT DAMN IT DAMN IT WERKADHSRADSHFSDJKL
Platypus doesn't sound like a Greek name. More like a Latin name. Like...

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Post by goatman » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:01 pm

Not a coin flip TPH, make an educated guess if you don't know for sure... read more mythology... spare us the rant!

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:02 pm

goatman wrote:Not a coin flip TPH, make an educated guess if you don't know for sure... read more mythology... spare us the rant!
Platypus actually sounded more mythological to me. I saw nothing to "educate" this guess at all.
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Post by JemRiffster » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:18 pm

Had a pretty good game except for Final. Interpreted "mammal that lays eggs" broadly and guessed monotreme. Stuck with it even though I didn't think it sounded like the name of a Greek mythological figure. Apparently, I'm no good at second-guessing myself during Final...

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Re: Monday, October 24, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by jev15 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:39 pm

Like TPH, I had never heard of Isabel Peron. If that had been me ringing in on the show, I'm sure I would've had a pretty funny look on my face.

I like themed boards like today's DJ round. I was disappointed by my performance in the Veep category: I couldn't pull Mubarak in time and didn't recognize Nelson Rockefeller. I was a little disappointed that no one got Alben Barkley, given Truman. I would think the Vice Presidents is a list you would look at if you were going to be on Jeopardy.

No one got Joe Theisman, either. I just read a weird novel call The Throwback Special which was based around that play. Can't say that I recommend it.

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Post by Bamaman » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:48 pm

I could not remember echidna so I was stuck with platypus.

I liked the twist on the Veep category with the non-American ones. I knew Peron's last wife served as president after him, but I did not know her first name. I wouldn't have rung on for fear of the BMS.

I didn't recognize Rockefeller, but you really didn't need to know what he looked like. It said he was a rival of Nixon and was VP in the 1970s.

We had four VPs in that decade. Agnew wasn't Nixon's rival, he was his VP. Same with Ford and that clearly wasn't him anyway. Mondale also doesn't fit the clue.

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Post by AleBelly » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:54 pm

My streak of 9 FJs is now a memory. I knew platypus wasn't right, but I couldn't remember echidna.

Lani's looking strong. Very fast on that buzzer - two lock games is not a bad way to start.

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Post by teapot37 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:02 pm

http://learnedleague.com/question.php?62&11&3

The only reason I have ever heard of Isabel Peron.
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Post by econgator » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:16 pm

teapot37 wrote:http://learnedleague.com/question.php?62&11&3

The only reason I have ever heard of Isabel Peron.
Yeah, didn't get it right then, either. :)

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Post by mxc_takeshi » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:43 pm

36/59 right.

Gig (3), Lit (2), Scene (5), Etiquette (4), Islands (2), Cognito (3)
TV (4), Sopranos (2), Cards (1), Veep (5), "American" (2), Bad (3)

Lach Trash: Nelson Rockefeller, Isabel Peron, Alben Barkley, Joe Theismann

No idea for FJ.

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Post by lbligh » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:46 pm

I kicked butt in Sopranos! Echidna was an artful FJ because it required knowledge both of classical mythology and animals. Or so I thought. A quick Internet search revealed that Echidna is also a character in one of those superhero fandom things. So it was sort of a three-fer.
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Post by Category 13 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:49 pm

AleBelly wrote:Lani's looking strong. Very fast on that buzzer - two lock games is not a bad way to start.
She's proving you don't have to go hunting for daily doubles to win handily, if you have a good broad knowledge base. And she's quick on her feet to re-think the correct response when she buzzes in 'too quickly'.
She reminds me of Catherine Hardee.

I couldn't figure out the last category on the right in the first round. And I didn't catch Lani's response to the clue about the hockey player.

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Post by Andromus » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:17 pm

lbligh wrote:I kicked butt in Sopranos! Echidna was an artful FJ because it required knowledge both of classical mythology and animals. Or so I thought. A quick Internet search revealed that Echidna is also a character in one of those superhero fandom things. So it was sort of a three-fer.
And in one more bit of pop culture, I remember Echidna from an episode of Hercules: The Legendary Journeys. The animal reference probably would have been enough for me anyway, but recalling that episode cinched it.

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:23 pm

I know what echidnas are because of Sonic the Hedgehog.

I'm a big animal buff.

I still missed this FJ! because I honestly saw it as nothing more than a coinflip. Why even bother coin flipping when I always, ALWAYS get them wrong?!
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Post by Volante » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:29 pm

Couldn't help but laugh at The Wire clue. I only started watching that 2.5 weeks ago. Would've been a clam otherwise.
TenPoundHammer wrote:I know what echidnas are because of Sonic the Hedgehog.

I'm a big animal buff.

I still missed this FJ! because I honestly saw it as nothing more than a coinflip. Why even bother coin flipping when I always, ALWAYS get them wrong?!
Yes...why even bother?

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Post by Bamaman » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:31 pm

Category 13 wrote: I couldn't figure out the last category on the right in the first round. And I didn't catch Lani's response to the clue about the hockey player.
It was "goon". Not sure if this was the last category, but it was "IN COGNITO". All responses were made up of words you could make from the word "cognito".

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