Friday, October 28, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

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Re: Friday, October 28, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Elijah Baley » Sat Oct 29, 2016 8:58 am

Volante wrote:Train of thought upon seeing final:

- Romeo & Juliet...one of them used a dagger
- It was Juliet. Romeo used poison
-- (And I've done the damn Opera event in WoW Karazhan often enough... http://www.wowhead.com/sound=9310/a-juliannedeath02 )
- Juliet Capulet. JC
- Julius Caesar
- *naps for 25 seconds*
- Oh, Alex expected us to get the guy first, huh? Reeeeeally
Well, I think getting the guy first would be the way most folks would come to the correct response. Stabbing generally involves a stabber and stabbee, and good old Julius was a pretty famous stabbee. And he happens to be a complete title as well.

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Post by Bamaman » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:10 am

nlw44 wrote:
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doihavetoreally wrote:Although I never write my responses, I thought that writing both names will take a long time. I scribbled those names as quickly as possible and it took between 9-10 seconds. Would they just accept JC?
No way.
I've been thinking lately that they should use keyboards for the FJ answers, rather than handwriting. It's particularly relevant when the answers are long, as with this one, but it'd also be much clearer for AT to read. And in my case, my fine motor control goes to hell in any stressful situation, which makes me worry that if I ever do get on the show, I won't be able to even write my name legibly, much less an FJ response.
There was a boy on Kids Week a few years ago that used a keyboard for FJ. They said he had some sort of problem using a pen.

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Re: Friday, October 28, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by John Boy » Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:55 am

Bamaman wrote:I got this but I agree with Alex it was tough. I read R&J in high school so I knew how she died. But if you haven't (or it has been a long time), you may not know she stabbed herself or know her last name.

I guess Meghan's wager was appropriate since FJ was about someone who committed suicide.
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Funny, but sad...yet another contestant shoots herself in the foot and ruins the only J! opportunity she will ever have because of knowing NOTHING about wagering. Deep sigh......

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Re: Friday, October 28, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by nserven » Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:17 pm

Elijah Baley wrote:
Volante wrote:Train of thought upon seeing final:

- Romeo & Juliet...one of them used a dagger
- It was Juliet. Romeo used poison
-- (And I've done the damn Opera event in WoW Karazhan often enough... http://www.wowhead.com/sound=9310/a-juliannedeath02 )
- Juliet Capulet. JC
- Julius Caesar
- *naps for 25 seconds*
- Oh, Alex expected us to get the guy first, huh? Reeeeeally
Well, I think getting the guy first would be the way most folks would come to the correct response. Stabbing generally involves a stabber and stabbee, and good old Julius was a pretty famous stabbee. And he happens to be a complete title as well.
I think one factor for me was that we know both the first and last names of very few characters, particularly title characters. Julius Caesar jumps out as one immediately.

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Post by davey » Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:04 pm

Golf wrote:Had to root for the new champ after she got Jordan Speith in the golf category. Not sure why somebody would think Ernie Els is American, if someone is going to answer that it would reason they knew at least something about the person.
His name is Spieth. Can anyone think of a word in which the vowel combination ie is pronounced ay, as in Julia's response? It was odd that Alex's doubt about accepting seemed to be relieved when she came up with a first name. Not that I think she should have been ruled against - it confirms my sense that you can pronounce vowels on J! just about any way you want. Just keep the consonants in place.
I hate FJs that are based on a meaningless coincidence. I found the "same pair of initials" requirement confusing because I wanted the full name to be in the title. To be honest I'm not sure I ever really understood that Caesar was a family name that later became a title so I'm not sure I would have recognized J.C. as his initials. The best I ended up with was Othello-Ophelia though I know very well how Ophelia died.

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Re: Friday, October 28, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by cheezguyty » Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:31 pm

davey wrote:
Golf wrote:Had to root for the new champ after she got Jordan Speith in the golf category. Not sure why somebody would think Ernie Els is American, if someone is going to answer that it would reason they knew at least something about the person.
His name is Spieth. Can anyone think of a word in which the vowel combination ie is pronounced ay, as in Julia's response?
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Post by jeff6286 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:42 pm

cheezguyty wrote:
davey wrote:
Golf wrote:Had to root for the new champ after she got Jordan Speith in the golf category. Not sure why somebody would think Ernie Els is American, if someone is going to answer that it would reason they knew at least something about the person.
His name is Spieth. Can anyone think of a word in which the vowel combination ie is pronounced ay, as in Julia's response?
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Presumably she thought his name was Speith, with the e/i reversed, giving an "ay" sound as in "eight". I was impressed that she got that close after saying Pebble Beach for the Masters!

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Re: Friday, October 28, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by davey » Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:49 pm

cheezguyty wrote:
davey wrote:
Golf wrote:Had to root for the new champ after she got Jordan Speith in the golf category. Not sure why somebody would think Ernie Els is American, if someone is going to answer that it would reason they knew at least something about the person.
His name is Spieth. Can anyone think of a word in which the vowel combination ie is pronounced ay, as in Julia's response?
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Thanks, good one! Though I have to say that pronunciation has always bugged me since it doesn't follow the common rules of either American English or French...

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Re: Friday, October 28, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Ultraman » Sat Oct 29, 2016 8:31 pm

jeff6286 wrote:
cheezguyty wrote:
davey wrote:
Golf wrote:Had to root for the new champ after she got Jordan Speith in the golf category. Not sure why somebody would think Ernie Els is American, if someone is going to answer that it would reason they knew at least something about the person.
His name is Spieth. Can anyone think of a word in which the vowel combination ie is pronounced ay, as in Julia's response?
lingerie
Presumably she thought his name was Speith, with the e/i reversed, giving an "ay" sound as in "eight". I was impressed that she got that close after saying Pebble Beach for the Masters!
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Post by goatman » Sat Oct 29, 2016 8:58 pm

Volante wrote:Train of thought upon seeing final:

- Romeo & Juliet...one of them used a dagger
- It was Juliet. Romeo used poison
-- (And I've done the damn Opera event in WoW Karazhan often enough... http://www.wowhead.com/sound=9310/a-juliannedeath02 )
- Juliet Capulet. JC
- Julius Caesar
- *naps for 25 seconds*
- Oh, Alex expected us to get the guy first, huh? Reeeeeally
OMGOSH! Karazhan is active again? Totally no time for WOW I got to get back in there! Such fun! And from the Oz event you get the Ruby Slipper drop, sweet! :D
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Re: Friday, October 28, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Volante » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:22 pm

goatman wrote:
Volante wrote:Train of thought upon seeing final:

- Romeo & Juliet...one of them used a dagger
- It was Juliet. Romeo used poison
-- (And I've done the damn Opera event in WoW Karazhan often enough... http://www.wowhead.com/sound=9310/a-juliannedeath02 )
- Juliet Capulet. JC
- Julius Caesar
- *naps for 25 seconds*
- Oh, Alex expected us to get the guy first, huh? Reeeeeally
OMGOSH! Karazhan is active again? Totally no time for WOW I got to get back in there! Such fun! And from the Oz event you get the Ruby Slipper drop, sweet! :D
It's always been active. In fact, there're two versions now. (I ran it for the mount, gold, xmogs and shits'n'giggles)

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Re: Friday, October 28, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by goatman » Sun Oct 30, 2016 11:43 pm

Volante wrote:
goatman wrote:
Volante wrote:Train of thought upon seeing final:

- Romeo & Juliet...one of them used a dagger
- It was Juliet. Romeo used poison
-- (And I've done the damn Opera event in WoW Karazhan often enough... http://www.wowhead.com/sound=9310/a-juliannedeath02 )
- Juliet Capulet. JC
- Julius Caesar
- *naps for 25 seconds*
- Oh, Alex expected us to get the guy first, huh? Reeeeeally
OMGOSH! Karazhan is active again? Totally no time for WOW I got to get back in there! Such fun! And from the Oz event you get the Ruby Slipper drop, sweet! :D
It's always been active. In fact, there're two versions now. (I ran it for the mount, gold, xmogs and shits'n'giggles)

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Post by soxfan99 » Mon Oct 31, 2016 8:14 pm

I don't see why FJ was that hard. There's only a few Shakespeare plays that even have names in the title. When you need a name where you know the first and last names, it's even fewer. "Name a Shakespeare play where the title character is killed, and you know the first and last name" really only leaves Julius Caesar and Romeo and Juliet. Maybe my fairly limited knowledge of Shakespeare helped me, because I just went for his best known play, and didn't have to go further.

I also wondered whether "Julius Caesar and Juliet" would be okay. I would think it would be.

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Post by BigDaddyMatty » Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:24 am

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Shakespeare + title character with two initials + died in a particular way got me to Julius Caesar pretty quickly. From there it was easy to come up with the other "J.C."
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Post by TenPoundHammer » Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:28 am

So how is I got Julius Caesar but did NOT get Juliet? She just wasn't on my radar at all, even though I know she's a J.C. who stabbed herself.
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Re: Friday, October 28, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by morbeedo » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:17 pm

Bamaman wrote:I got this but I agree with Alex it was tough. I read R&J in high school so I knew how she died. But if you haven't (or it has been a long time), you may not know she stabbed herself or know her last name.
Well, she's Capulet at the start of the play, but Montague when she stabs herself at the end, having been married by Friar Laurence in Act 2 Scene 6.

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Post by dhkendall » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:51 pm

morbeedo wrote:
Bamaman wrote:I got this but I agree with Alex it was tough. I read R&J in high school so I knew how she died. But if you haven't (or it has been a long time), you may not know she stabbed herself or know her last name.
Well, she's Capulet at the start of the play, but Montague when she stabs herself at the end, having been married by Friar Laurence in Act 2 Scene 6.
She was married but did she change her name?
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Post by Kenny » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:22 pm

dhkendall wrote:
morbeedo wrote:
Bamaman wrote:I got this but I agree with Alex it was tough. I read R&J in high school so I knew how she died. But if you haven't (or it has been a long time), you may not know she stabbed herself or know her last name.
Well, she's Capulet at the start of the play, but Montague when she stabs herself at the end, having been married by Friar Laurence in Act 2 Scene 6.
She was married but did she change her name?
In Catholic 16th-century Italy, I don't think she would've had any choice.

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