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Friday, January 6, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

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Post by theFJguy » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:31 am

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
NAME THE 19th CENTURY WORK

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
"Modern bourgeois society…is like the sorcerer who is no longer able to control the powers…called up by his spells"

Joe Bartolomeo: 15000+7500=22500 (2x = $36,500)
Dante Atkins: 17200-12801=4399
Christina Bussmann: 3600+3600=7200

Correct response:
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The Communist Manifesto (Dante – Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court)

Daily Doubles
Dante: 6200-2000
Dante: 6000+5000
Dante: 14200+3000

Coryats
Joe: 15000
Dante: 13600
Christina: 3600

Combined: 32,200
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Re: Friday, January 6, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by goatman » Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:34 pm

LOL today @J6: Yet ANOTHER William Golding Clue, in Category; Begins/Ends 'with same vowel':

In Lord of the Flies, Piggy suffers from this ailment:
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"What is AsthmA?"
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Re: Friday, January 6, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by TenPoundHammer » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:28 pm

I'm not familiar with Ethan Allen in any other context besides furniture.

I precalled the "Reveleations" neg. Seems that happens every single time.

Negged with Lamentations on Job because it sounded like a sad verse to me. Also negged with Exodus because I saw "blah blah blah blah Moses".

Didn't know what a conditional clause was.

I somehow interpreted "Sandwich cookie" as "ice cream sandwich" and was confused as all hell on the Oreo clue. Then again, I think Oreos are gross.

WLT Cole Porter or Brazil at $400?

The Elements DD was very clever. I just barely got it in time to run the category.

Lach Trash: Rio de la Plata, flourine, vanadium.

"Modern bourgeois society..." Nope, not even trying to guess on this one.
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Re: Friday, January 6, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by jpr281 » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:31 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:The Elements DD was very clever.
I agree.

"Coping device" an alternate correct response for "security blanket"?

As others have said, the Friday FJ! clues have been very difficult in the past few weeks. However, I feel many on this board got it right today.

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Re: Friday, January 6, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Leander » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:34 pm

I'd like to know how to differentiate Das Kapital from the Communist Manifesto as an answer to this FJ (short of recognizing the phrase)

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Re: Friday, January 6, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by xxaaaxx » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:36 pm

I would've been sorely tempted to bet 10k+ on that element DD, but given the trouble they had with some of them, I understand the smaller bet. At least he wagered enough to still have the lead in FJ regardless of the 2k clue.

Modern bourgeois--
"Communist Manifesto, bye champ....wait, it wasn't a triple get??"

Not sure what the logic was behind that Twain response. Surely there are shorter "just say something" guesses. Champ wins two the hard way.

I agree with Alex, nice handwriting. I don't think I could ever pull it off with a light pen.

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Re: Friday, January 6, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by BigDaddyMatty » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:39 pm

Coryat: $35,200
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DD: 2/3
FJ: :mrgreen:
LT: ye, John Legend, Finding Neverland, the tropics, Rio de la Plata, fluorine, vanadium

Bourgeois = The Communist Manifesto. Surprised something so Pavlovian wasn't a triple-get.

"Revelations," again? C'mon, man.

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Re: Friday, January 6, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by StevenH » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:41 pm

I approached FJ from totally the wrong angle, as I focused in on 19th century French fiction. Talk about a forehead slapper.

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Re: Friday, January 6, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Leah » Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:11 pm

Leander wrote:I'd like to know how to differentiate Das Kapital from the Communist Manifesto as an answer to this FJ (short of recognizing the phrase)
I asked the resident historian that question (because I've never read either of them) and he said that the first is so dry it's almost unreadable while the second is colorfully written to stir (and be accessible to) the masses.

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Re: Friday, January 6, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by goatman » Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:31 pm

Leander wrote:I'd like to know how to differentiate Das Kapital from the Communist Manifesto as an answer to this FJ (short of recognizing the phrase)
Yeah same thing ran through my cranium briefly while getting to the right one. "Das Kapital' = 'the capital' >> about Money, not a building or city, as some mistake.
Commie Manifesto is about social revolutionary thinking. ergo, 'middle class bourgeois.' Co-author Engels comes up frequently.

51R for goats! LT: Moses checked out in Deuteronomy; "Ye"; tropics; silver>>>Rio de La Plata (becoming routine now!); F > Fluorine; V = Vanadium. No get on Beau Brummel pic, guessed ?Byron?! :lol:
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Re: Friday, January 6, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by nlw44 » Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:33 pm

Leah wrote:
Leander wrote:I'd like to know how to differentiate Das Kapital from the Communist Manifesto as an answer to this FJ (short of recognizing the phrase)
I asked the resident historian that question (because I've never read either of them) and he said that the first is so dry it's almost unreadable while the second is colorfully written to stir (and be accessible to) the masses.
I"m always wondering the same thing, but looking them up today, I finally know (and hope I will remember in the future) that the Comm. Manifesto is a brochure and Das Kapital is a three-volume work. That probably fits well with the idea of DK being dry and nearly unreadable, cf. CM more stirring. The masses are more likely to read a brochure than a three volume tome.
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Re: Friday, January 6, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Elijah Baley » Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:34 pm

That has to be one the most spectacularly bizarre FJ guesses ever. The sheer volume of writing wasn't enough to make Dante think, "Hmm, I may have taken a wrong turn on this one"?? I guess by that point, there wasn't much of an option available to him.

Edited to add: And he was tearing it up otherwise; I'm guessing that there was a misfire between the clue and what he thought the clue said.

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Post by BigDaddyMatty » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:04 pm

By the way, that's nine straight FJ! misses by the leader. The contestants have been spectacularly bad on FJ! this season, going a combined 98/220 (44.5%) in regular play.
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Re: Friday, January 6, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MarkBarrett » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:05 pm

Okay, I'll admit I erred on Edie Brickell being married to Paul Simon as I had Steve Martin in thinking about them touring together. I hate losing a 5/5 that way.
Elijah Baley wrote:That has to be one the most spectacularly bizarre FJ guesses ever. The sheer volume of writing wasn't enough to make Dante think, "Hmm, I may have taken a wrong turn on this one"?? I guess by that point, there wasn't much of an option available to him.

Edited to add: And he was tearing it up otherwise; I'm guessing that there was a misfire between the clue and what he thought the clue said.
"Modern bourgeois society…is like the sorcerer who is no longer able to control the powers…called up by his spells"

Yes, the clue could be simplified to "bourgeois" on J!=The Communist Manifest.

I'll defend Dante as perhaps he did the same thing I did in only thinking about fiction. NAME THE 19th CENTURY WORK should have tipped me off not to think literature and fiction, but I did go that way when playing the clue.

Read the FJ! clue and think of it only from a fictional literature angle and it opens up a lot of possible guesses. My approach was trying to think French and I did not like Hugo's Hunchback or any Dumas or Verne works. I narrowed my guesses to Frankenstein and the Stevenson work I wrote, Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde.

I did not even need to hear Alex compliment Christina on her handwriting to realize instantly the Marx work was correct while being embarrassed that I failed to make the simple connection off the key word in the clue.

Dante could have taken "sorcerer" to Merlin and while way off base for the quote I don't see it even near some of the adjective adjective guesses for FJ! responses ever. Like mine, it's just wrong.

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Re: Friday, January 6, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Kenny » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:38 pm

Knew instantly FJ was a Karl Marx work, but like many I guessed the obvious "Das Kapital."

Moses' death passage from the Bible was serious negbait. I think 95% of people would say it was from Exodus.

Interesting that the press secretary contestant didn't ring in on the occupation clue that was "press secretary."

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Re: Friday, January 6, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by sarisson » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:53 pm

Instawrong FJ with Das Kapital, so I'm glad I wasn't the only one. My problem lately has been immediately getting an answer and not thinking enough about other possibilities. With that miss, I'm 50/75 in regular episodes this season.
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Re: Friday, January 6, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by jwatcher16 » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:16 pm

Hi all -

Thanks to leander for asking what I was also wondering - how to differentiate TCM from DK. I knew immediately it had to be Karl Marx and thought first of DK... realized it might very well be TCM too late. Thanks much to Leah for the insight she brought, and to nlw44 for more info.

And Kenny, have to say that I also thought Moses' death would have been in Exodus. Been a while since I read those books at all; guess I'd better refresh. :-)

But I did get one that was a TS ---- Rio de la Plata (and that with my often spotty geographic knowledge). All in all a fairly interesting game :)

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Re: Friday, January 6, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by thenextofken » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:47 pm

While the Moses clue was negbait, it was certainly gettable if you know Moses died at the end of the Pentateuch, of which the last book at Deuteronomy.

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