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Tuesday, January 24, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:30 am

Game Recap for Show #7452, 2017-01-24

CONTESTANTS
Loren Lee Chen, a basketball podcaster from West Newton, Massachusetts
Derek Anderson, an attorney from Falls Church, Virginia
Sean Harrington, an engineer from Houston, Texas (whose 1-day cash winnings total $9,200)

OPENING REMARKS
Alex: Thank you, Johnny. Hi, folks. Yeah, I know. Once again, Final Jeopardy! was the determining factor in keeping a winner from taking home a lot of cash. $9,200 only for Sean yesterday. Derek and Loren, I'll express the same thing I said yesterday --I hope we get a big payday today. It's up to you guys. Don't let me down. Here are the categories you're gonna deal with in the first round...

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
IN THE WORLD CAPITAL (5/5)
WARTHOGS (5/5)
STUPID ANSWERS (4/5)
SAY IT IN ITALIAN (4/5)
THE DEVILS (4/5)
DEEP BLUE "C" (5/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Loren: 12 R (including 1 DD), 2 W
Derek: 8 R (including 2 rebounds), 0 W
Sean: 7 R, 2 W

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 3
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $2,600



SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
Derek: $2,600
Loren: $1,600
Sean: $800

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Alex: Loren Lee Chen is from Massachusetts. He's a basketball podcaster, but I wanna hear about what you and your sister do every year. It's something you've been doing for quite some time.

Loren: Yeah, there was one time I was visiting home from college. We were looking through some old photo albums together --my sister and I, Pamela --and we noticed two pictures. We were like, "oh, we're in the pretty same pose in these two pictures." Five years apart, we kept flipping. "Oh, there's another picture. We're in the same pose." So now if we're ever on vacation together, you know, we both put on our sunglasses. I throw one of these things [Loren puts his hand on his hip.] She throws one of those things. [Loren puts his hand on his head.] And we try to keep it going.

Alex: Good for you. Consistency --that's very important.




Alex: All right, Derek Anderson is an attorney from Virginia. You rode a unicorn? Come on.

Derek: Just the one time, yes. There was a contest where you build a --basically a float, a craft.

Alex: Ah.

Derek: And your friends throw you off a 10-meter platform and into the water, and you see how far you can fly, so ours was a unicorn, obviously.

[Laughter]

Derek: It's on YouTube.

Alex: Silly...but fun.

Derek: Yes.

Alex: Absolutely.




Alex: Sean Harrington, engineer from Houston, Texas, is our champion. Once served in the Navy.

Sean: Yes, that's correct.

Alex: Doing?

Sean: Surface warfare.

Alex: Surface?

Sean: Yeah, I was on ships.

Alex: Thank you for your service. Now let's get back into this.

JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Loren found the Daily Double on the 16th clue. Sean had $800, Derek had $2,600, and Loren was at $1,600. Loren made it a True Daily Double, wagering $1,600.

DEEP BLUE "C" $800: Elementary! The name of this deep blue is from a German word for a type of goblin

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
STUPID ANSWERS $1000: Entertainer Marvin Hamlisch won a 1974 Grammy for this instrumental hit from the movie "The Sting"
(Sean: What is "The Sting"?)

THE DEVILS $600: "I have found it", "it" being the Red Devils of this Illinois school that Ronald Reagan played ball for
(Loren: What is Illinois Tech?)

SAY IT IN ITALIAN $1000: The 3-word name of this Mozart opera can be translated as "Thus do they all"

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
Loren: $6,000
Derek: $5,600
Sean: $1,400

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DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
ANTARCTICA (3/3)
A CAMEO APPEARANCE (5/5)
PLAY SETTINGS (1/5, including 1 missed Daily Double)
HISTORY (2/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
THE MIND (5/5)
"ESTER" PARADE (4/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Loren: 9 R (including 1 DD), 1 W
Derek: 6 R, 1 W (including 1 DD)
Sean: 5 R, 1 W

Clues revealed: 28
Triple Stumpers: 7
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $10,000



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Loren snagged the next Daily Double on the 11th clue. Sean had $3,000, Derek had $7,200, and Loren was at $11,200. Loren wagered $3,000.

HISTORY $1200: In 1966 Huey Newton & Bobby Seale founded this militant party in Oakland

SECOND DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
It was Derek who snatched up the last Daily Double of the game on the 26th clue. Sean had $3,800, Derek had $10,800, and Loren was at $20,200. Derek wagered $5,000.

PLAY SETTINGS $1200: From 1959:
In and around the Keller homestead in Tuscumbia, Alabama
(Derek: What is The Sound and the Fury?)

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
HISTORY $400: In the 8th century B.C., Phoenician traders founded this future capital of Sicily
(Loren: What is Sardinia?)

"ESTER" PARADE $1600: A combine, to a farmer
(Sean: What is a thresher?)

HISTORY $2000: The ancestors of this Aboriginal people of Hokkaido Island are thought to have reached Japan around 1000 B.C.

HISTORY $1600: In 1756 this mistress' meddling led to Louis XV allying with Austria in the disastrous 7 Years' War

PLAY SETTINGS $800: From around 1606 (Act III, Scene viii):
a plain near Actium
(Alex: Less than a minute now.)

PLAY SETTINGS $1600: From 1895:
Algernon Moncrieff's flat in Half-Moon Street

PLAY SETTINGS $2000: From 1879:
The Helmers' sitting room
[The end-of-round signal sounds.]

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
Loren: $20,200 (lock game)
Derek: $5,800
Sean: $3,800

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
MEDALS & DECORATIONS

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
Lock for first place; crush for second place.
Loren: Wager between $0 (venusian) and $8,599 (martian), and enjoy your victory.
Derek: Wager $1,801 to cover Sean.
Sean: You have the hope of surpassing Derek for second place if you come up with the correct response or if your opponent fails to. Bet between $200 and $3,798.

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
Her husband won in 1927; in 1934 she was the 1st woman to win the National Geographic Society's Hubbard Medal for exploration

FINAL SCORES
Sean: $3,800 - $400 = $3,400 (Who is Amelia Earhardt?) (3rd place)
Derek: $5,800 - $1,800 = $4,000 (Who was Leakey) (2nd place)
Loren: $20,200 - $301 = $19,899 (Who is Earhart?) (New champion: $19,899)
(Alex: You had to zoom in on 1927.)
...
(Alex: [To Loren] Lindy won it in '27.)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $12,600

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
Loren: $17,600, 21 R (including 2 DDs), 3 W
Derek: $10,800, 14 R, 1 W (including 1 DD)
Sean: $3,800, 12 R, 3 W
Combined Coryat: $32,200

BATTING AVERAGES
Loren: 21/60 = .350
Derek: 14/59 = .237
Sean: 12/58 = .207
Team: 47/63 = .746

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
DEEP BLUE "C" $200: Salute if you know there's a hue named for these West Pointers seen here

STUPID ANSWERS $400: (Jimmy of the Clue Crew gives the clue from George Rang Historical Park in Richmond, Texas.) Noted for its long horns that can span 7 feet or more, this is the official state large mammal of Texas

IN THE WORLD CAPITAL $600: Tahrir Square, the HQ of the Arab League
(Loren: What is Ankara?)

DEEP BLUE "C" $1000: This color comes in front of the name of the North American wood warbler seen here

THE DEVILS $400: Despite this Pac-12 team name, its mascot Sparky is actually described as an imp
(Alex: Arizona State, yes.)

SAY IT IN ITALIAN $800: (I'm Mario Andretti.) I drove this car in 1994, my last year as an Indy car driver; I called my season-long farewell campaign this, Italian for "until we see each other again"

WARTHOGS $1000: The Roslin Institute of Dolly the sheep fame is putting a warthog gene in domestic pigs to stop ASF, African this fever
(Sean: What is spotted?)

THE MIND $800: Agonists are drugs that can mimic the activity of these brain chemicals that send impulses across synapses
(Sean: What are dopamines?)
[Originally ruled incorrect; ruled correct before the first Daily Double]

ANTARCTICA $800: Blood Falls, which flows into Lake Bonney, gets its color because it is rich in this element

CORRECT RESPONSES
cobalt
"The Entertainer"
Eureka College
Così fan tutte
the Black Panthers
The Miracle Worker
Palermo
a harvester
the Ainu
Madame de Pompadour
Antony and Cleopatra
The Importance of Being Earnest
A Doll's House
Anne Morrow Lindbergh
cadet
the longhorn
Cairo
cerulean
the Sun Devils
arrivederci
swine fever
neurotransmitters (or dopamines)
iron

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Final Jeopardy! Round

Post by theFJguy » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:31 am

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
MEDALS & DECORATIONS

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
Her husband won in 1927; in 1934 she was the 1st woman to win the Natl. Geog. Society’s Hubbard Medal for exploration

Sean Harrington: 3800-400=3400
Derek Anderson: 5800-1800=4000
Loren Lee Chen: 20200-301=19899 (New Champ)

Correct response:
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Anne Morrow Lindbergh (Sean – Amelia Earhardt) (Derek – Leakey) (Loren – Earhart)

Daily Doubles
Loren: 1600+1600
Loren: 11200+3000
Derek: 10800-5000

Coryats
Sean: 3800
Derek: 10800
Loren: 17600

Combined: 32,200

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Re: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MarkBarrett » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:37 pm

Johnny's introductions had me picturing a talk show type audience game of matching the person to the occupation. 3 people are on stage and the host has three cards: Engineer, Attorney, & Basketball Podcaster

The player from the audience has to then place a card by each person matching the occupation. I do not see that going 3/3 on the first try with today's contestants and jobs.

I had a chance to jot some of the trash I collected: "The Entertainer" (could have named that when I was age 10), Palermo, Madame de Pompadour, Eureka, Così fan tutte, harvester...

If Derek solves the quite gettable The Miracle Worker on his DD then a 15800 to 20200 scenario for the FJ! round perhaps changes the outcome on a TS FJ! round clue.

I'll change the solve percentage to 25% as I wrote the correct name before Alex finished reading the clue. Like the host said, "1927." Done. Ouch to anyone who did not know her name and had to try fly by the judges with, "Mrs. Lindbergh."

Sean: Congrats on the "Jeopardy! Champion" title as it never goes away.

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Re: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by SeanHarrington » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:45 pm

Thanks. It's a fun experience I will never forget.
It's too bad that today's categories and questions were more challenging for me than yesterday's.

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Re: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Kenny » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:55 pm

SeanHarrington wrote:Thanks. It's a fun experience I will never forget.
It's too bad that today's categories and questions were more challenging for me than yesterday's.
Being from Houston, I was really pulling for you today, Sean. Agree those were some tough categories, and Loren was really on fire. It'll be interesting to see how he does the rest of the week.

That FJ was YEKIOYD, in my opinion. I'm not sure if I could've come up with her first name even if you spotted me "Lindbergh" as I've never heard of her being known for exploration other than being Charles's wife. Went with Earhart, and thought it was an instaget since her husband, George Putnam, was also a well-known explorer and she matched that time period.

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Re: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by TenPoundHammer » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:29 pm

Really, WNEM? How many goddamn Time-Life informercials do you need to run this time of year?!

He's ridden a unicorn, but has he ridden a beavercorn?

NHO "Girls" so Stupid Answers mocked me right out of the gate. It could just as easily have been called Cable, Series, Cable Girls, Cable Series, Hannah, Marnie, Shoshonah, or Include, just to name a few.

I ended up bombing the Stupid Answers because none of the words seemed to fit.

Pasta sauce with an Italian name was a coinflip on Ragu/Prego.

Palermo struck me as undervalued at $400.

I didn't know Lindbergh even had a wife.
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Re: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by econgator » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:30 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:I'll change the solve percentage to 25% as I wrote the correct name before Alex finished reading the clue. Like the host said, "1927." Done. Ouch to anyone who did not know her name and had to try fly by the judges with, "Mrs. Lindbergh."
I pondered Lindbergh for a moment, but had no recollection of the wife at all, so discounted them. Went with Leakey.

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Post by xxaaaxx » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:33 pm

Leakey came to mind for a millisecond (even though the dates made no sense), but then 1927 started blinking like a neon light. Easy money.

Surprised it was a TS, but also annoyed because...
MarkBarrett wrote:Ouch to anyone who did not know her name and had to try fly by the judges with, "Mrs. Lindbergh."
...I was eager to find out if this would've worked :lol:

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Re: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MarkBarrett » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:49 pm

econgator wrote:
MarkBarrett wrote:I'll change the solve percentage to 25% as I wrote the correct name before Alex finished reading the clue. Like the host said, "1927." Done. Ouch to anyone who did not know her name and had to try fly by the judges with, "Mrs. Lindbergh."
I pondered Lindbergh for a moment, but had no recollection of the wife at all, so discounted them. Went with Leakey.
Perhaps the poll will have both Earhart and Leakey. Here are the previous appearances in the Archive for Anne Morrow. Today was the first time she has been asked for in the FJ! round.

#6827, aired 2014-04-29 RECENT HISTORICAL FICTION $400: Melanie Benjamin's "The Aviator's Wife" fictionalized the life & marriage of Anne Morrow & this man
#6637, aired 2013-06-25 DIARIES & JOURNALS $1600: In a January 1928 diary entry, she wrote about her future husband, "the flight gave him to the world"
#6439, aired 2012-09-20 DUAL BIOGRAPHIES $400: "Loss of Eden" recounts the triumphs & tragedies of Anne Morrow & this aviator husband
#5997, aired 2010-10-12 DIARIES $800: In her journals Anne Morrow called him "a knight in shining armor, with myself as his devoted page"
#5300, aired 2007-09-28 LEFTOVERS $200: Tasmanian-born Harold Gatty taught navigation to Anne Morrow, the wife of this "Lone Eagle"
#5086, aired 2006-10-23 MAIDEN NAMES $400: Anne Morrow
#4215, aired 2002-12-20 WOMEN! $400: Maiden name of author Anne, widow of Charles Lindbergh; she died in 2001 at age 94
#3842, aired 2001-04-24 FEMALE FLYERS $300: Anne Spencer Morrow's first date with this man, her future husband, was a flying lesson
#3451, aired 1999-09-13 FAMOUS AMERICANS $300: In 1929 this American hero married Anne Spencer Morrow, daughter of the U.S. ambassador to Mexico
#3214, aired 1998-07-16 DIARIES $200: The diary of this woman, wife of a famous aviator, describes the kidnapping of her son
#2782, aired 1996-10-08 CHARLES A. LINDBERGH $1000: This woman, his wife, acted as copilot & navigator on many of his flights
#2084, aired 1993-09-30 NOTABLE NAMES $200: He not only married Anne Morrow, he taught her to fly
#1621, aired 1991-09-23 AUTHORS $200: This author & her husband moved to a cottage in Kent in 1936 after the kidnapping trial
#12, aired 1990-09-01 NONFICTION $500: Her “North To The Orient” & “Listen! The Wind” tell of flights she took with her aviator husband (Correct by Jeff Richmond in Super J!)
#1195, aired 1989-11-10 AUTHORS' MAIDEN NAMES $200: Anne Lindbergh's maiden name

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Re: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by goatman » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:12 pm

Instaget off the dates. Anne was made famous by the kidnapping, so yeah, YEKIOYD but was quite famous, and tragic. Some things YJGTK! ;)

48R for goats, LT: The Sting > Ragtime > Joplin "The Entertainer"; Palermo, Sicily (Messina = major port, also often asked); Ainu indigenous ppl of Hokkaido (fishing women); Louis XV > Mme de Pompadour (Recently featured on "Versailles" and also famous for the Pompadour hair which also comes up often!); Neurotransmitters (ACC: "Dopamine" albeit too specific IMHO); The Importance of Being Earnest; FJ. No get on A Doll's House, Ibsen's play in Helmer's living room, lol. After reading it again I hope it sticks more than a week!
Sigh... senility creeps. Put an old goat out to pasture of better yet, off to the glue factory! :o

I offered "Selection Bias" in lieu of "Confirmation Bias" which is similar, judges? Basically, picking your sample to produce the expected result. :shock:
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Re: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by econgator » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:18 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
econgator wrote:
MarkBarrett wrote:I'll change the solve percentage to 25% as I wrote the correct name before Alex finished reading the clue. Like the host said, "1927." Done. Ouch to anyone who did not know her name and had to try fly by the judges with, "Mrs. Lindbergh."
I pondered Lindbergh for a moment, but had no recollection of the wife at all, so discounted them. Went with Leakey.
Perhaps the poll will have both Earhart and Leakey. Here are the previous appearances in the Archive for Anne Morrow. Today was the first time she has been asked for in the FJ! round.
It wasn't that I hadn't heard of her at all, just that I never had heard of anything she had done, other than marry Charles (and it seems that every clue since 1996 highlights only that aspect of her life).

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Post by mxc_takeshi » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:17 pm

34 right.

Capital (5), Warthog (2), Stupid Answers (3), Italian (3), Devils (4), Blue "C" (3)
Antarctica (2), Cameo (2), History (3), Mind (2), "ESTER" (2), Play (3)

Lach Trash: Palermo, A Doll's House; DD: The Miracle Worker

Not instant, but the 1927 brought me to Lindy, and I remembered that his wife Anne was an aviator as well.

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Post by doihavetoreally » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:26 pm

Earhart here. Skipped over 1927 part and never considered Leakeys.

The champ seemed quite good (with a couple of odd misses). Wonder how many games?

Sean seemed to have a few more negs .. Due to score pressure?
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Post by opusthepenguin » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:32 pm

xxaaaxx wrote:Leakey came to mind for a millisecond (even though the dates made no sense), but then 1927 started blinking like a neon light. Easy money.

Surprised it was a TS, but also annoyed because...
MarkBarrett wrote:Ouch to anyone who did not know her name and had to try fly by the judges with, "Mrs. Lindbergh."
...I was eager to find out if this would've worked :lol:
Same here. I went the Leakey route and wasted the think music trying to remember her first name. I finally decided her first name was Mary, which turns out to be correct. And I also decided they would want me to write that down. So, mentally, I did so. I want to know if it would have mattered. If I knew for sure they didn't need a first name, I might have used my time more profitably and thought my way to the correct response.

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Re: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by davey » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:56 pm

I also said Leakey. I think of Anne Morrow Lindbergh as a memoirist, but I never read any of them, so I didn't know of her own explorations...I know 1927 should have pointed me right, but I think of what Lindbergh did as adventure, not necessarily exploration - did he find anything up there he wasn't expecting?... :roll:

I also thought of Margaret Mead who published her book Coming of Age in Samoa in 1928. Anthropology seems a kind of exploration.
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Re: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Category 13 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:01 pm

econgator wrote: I pondered Lindbergh for a moment, but had no recollection of the wife at all, so discounted them. Went with Leakey.
I also briefly pondered on her, but since I couldn't concieve a reason she should get a major exploration award, tossed her aside until the music stopped, at which point I figured it probably had to be her.
SeanHarrington wrote:It's too bad that today's categories and questions were more challenging for me than yesterday's.
I was thinking there must have been an edit on the Entertainer clue that kept us from seeing why Derek and Loren didn't get the rebound. It should have been obvious after you missed. Plus it seemed Alex gave the correct response immediately after your guess.

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Post by opusthepenguin » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:05 pm

goatman wrote:I offered "Selection Bias" in lieu of "Confirmation Bias" which is similar, judges? Basically, picking your sample to produce the expected result. :shock:
Here's the clue:

THIS COGNITIVE "BIAS" IS THE TENDENCY
TO SEARCH ONLY FOR INFORMATION
THAT SUPPORTS ONE'S PRECONCEPTIONS

I considered both selection and confirmation and felt the clue really pointed to confirmation. But maybe I'm just seeing what I want to see. :D

I think the key word is "preconceptions." Selection bias need not confirm your preconceptions. It might very well run counter to them.

The problem is, I think the clue's wording is slightly defective. Selection bias isn't a conscious choice. But neither is confirmation bias. This isn't about deliberately gaming the system. With selection bias, you're just not taking into account that your sample consists of mostly white kids in their late teens and early twenties because that's who's available at Iowa State. So you publish a study that draws conclusions about people in general. That study might very well be contrary to your preconceptions. So I think the clue's wording rules it out.

But as I say, confirmation bias isn't really a conscious choice either. It's not that you're searching for information to support your preconception. It's just that you're more likely to notice that information. E.g. you think the Burger King down the street has really rude servers. When they give you standard service, you don't notice so much. But if they're rude, your brain says, "See? I was right!" and gives you an attaboy in the form of some yummy endorphins.

So I think the clue's wording was slightly defective. They should've replaced "search only for" with "be more likely to notice." Then they should've totally rewritten the clue because that's just clunky. In any event, I think confirmation bias was the only reasonably correct fit.

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Re: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by JayK33 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:08 pm

Unlucky. I had no guess on FJ. While I, of course, know who Charles Lindbergh is, I don't recall ever reading anything about his wife. So no help there for me.

I guess Earhart wouldn't have been that bad of a guess but, like with Charles, I never heard anything about her spouse, if she even had one.

Of the DDs, I only got The Black Panthers right.

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Re: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Category 13 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:11 pm

davey wrote: I think of Anne Morrow Lindbergh as a memoirist, but I never read any of them, so I didn't know of her own explorations...I know 1927 should have pointed me right, but I think of what Lindbergh did as adventure, not necessarily exploration - did he find anything up there he wasn't expecting?... :roll:
It doesn't seem to fit. Charles was certainly an aviation pioneer/hero. So Anne gets the award for being his spouse?
Maybe I'm forgetting that he flew over the north pole???

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