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Monday, December 12, 2011 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:30 am

Game Recap for Show #6266, 2011-12-12

Alex returns to conducting contestant interviews from near contestant lecterns.

CONTESTANTS
Chuck Rezac, a cattle ranch hand from Emmett, Kansas
Ellen Tabor, a psychiatrist from New York, New York
Drew Bayers, a music supervisor originally from Milford, Connecticut (whose 1-day cash winnings total $19,200)

OPENING REMARKS
Alex: Thank you, Johnny. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome aboard for another exciting week of Jeopardy! A good young champion and two great challengers in Ellen and Chuck. Welcome aboard to you three. Good luck. Let's go to work. First round is the Jeopardy! Round. It has one Daily Double in one of these categories...

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
AMERICAN POETS (4/5)
INITIAL TV (5/5)
COOKBOOKS (4/5)
NOT ACTUALLY A STATE CAPITAL (4/5, including 1 correct Daily Double) (Alex: You have to give us the cities that are not actually state capitals.)
TAKING SPECIAL MEASURES (4/5)
GET A "CLU" (5/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Drew: 10 R, 0 W
Ellen: 9 R, 0 W
Chuck: 7 R (including 1 DD), 2 W

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 4
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $3,800



JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Chuck found the Daily Double on the 5th clue. Drew had $200, Ellen had $600, and Chuck was at $400. Chuck wagered $1,000.

NOT ACTUALLY A STATE CAPITAL $600: You'll find the University of Missouri's main campus in this city -- the one in Missouri, not in South Carolina

SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
Chuck: $2,800
Drew: $2,400
Ellen: $1,600

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Alex: Thanks for staying with us. My foot must be getting better, because I'm back at my old spot here. Chuck Rezac from Kansas--a cattle ranch hand. You and I have something in common. We both learned a very important lesson with, uh, a device that can be used around the home. Tell the folks.

Chuck: A pressure washer. I was washing out a trailer, a lot of backsplash. My arm was dirty [holds up left arm], I had water in this hand [holds up right hand], and... [mimes trying to clean left arm with pressure washer, clicks tongue] I now have an interesting scar on this arm.

Alex: I'm glad you're healthy, though.




Alex: Ellen Tabor is a psychiatrist from New York--

Ellen: Yes.

Alex: --who loves the tango.

Ellen: I do. My husband Terry and I were in Argentina the summer before last, and we took tango lessons on three successive nights. And we decided we loved it so much, we'd like to share it with our friends, and we hosted a party in our apartment for about six couples.

Alex: Is that a difficult dance to learn?

Ellen: It is. Um, there's a lot of improvisation that goes on, and you need a very strong partner to take you through them.

Alex: Good stuff.

Ellen: It's one of those dances, though, where you, the woman, gets to wrap her leg around the man. Is that level yet, but hopefully, someday.

Alex: Oh. Okay, let me know when you get there.

Ellen: Thank you.




Alex: Drew Bayers is our champion. Every once in a while, we get players on our show who are talented artistically, and Drew is one of those, and it goes way back to when you were 11 years old, and you included me in one of your drawings. I'd like to see that, and tell me first the circumstances.

Drew: There's the drawing. My grandmother wasn't feeling well, and she and I used to watch Jeopardy! together all the time, so I borrowed your likeness to help her get well, and it worked.

Alex: And--and in those days, I was wearing the mustache.

Drew: And a large lapel, yes.

Alex: And a... [laughs]

Drew: I think the mustache healed her, actually...

Alex: Oh, good.

Drew: ...so you should think about getting it back.

Alex: It's had that effect on many people.

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
NOT ACTUALLY A STATE CAPITAL $1000: It's the seat of Illinois' Logan County & shares its name with the capital of a different Midwest state

COOKBOOKS $1000: This Bravo star & former "New York Housewife" offers up some easy & healthy recipes in "The Skinnygirl Dish"

TAKING SPECIAL MEASURES $800: Used in surveying, this unit is equal to one hundredth of a chain
(Chuck: What's a rod?)

AMERICAN POETS $1000: In "Concord Hymn", he wrote, "Here once the embattled farmers stood, and fired the shot heard round the world"
(Chuck: Who is Longfellow?)

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
Drew: $5,200
Ellen: $5,200
Chuck: $2,400

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Re: Monday, December 12, 2011 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:30 am

DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
MATH (5/5)
ALSO A PRESIDENT'S SURNAME (4/5)
BILLIARDS (4/5)
FRENCH HISTORY (2/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
CARTS, WAGONS & SLEDS (5/5)
THE RAND CORPORATION (4/5, including 1 missed Daily Double)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Chuck: 9 R, 0 W
Drew: 8 R (including 1 DD), 1 W (including 1 DD)
Ellen: 7 R, 1 W

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 5
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $8,400



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Drew snagged the next Daily Double on the 16th clue. Drew had $10,000, Ellen had $7,600, and Chuck was at $9,600. Drew wagered $2,000.

THE RAND CORPORATION $2000: The field called this "theory", which has influenced economics & other disciplines, was expanded at RAND in the '40s
(Drew: What is string theory?)

SECOND DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
It was Drew who snatched up the last Daily Double of the game on the 20th clue. Drew had $8,400, Ellen had $7,600, and Chuck was at $10,000. Drew wagered $2,000.

FRENCH HISTORY $1200: In a July 6, 2003 referendum, this Mediterranean island narrowly defeated a plan for limited autonomy

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
ALSO A PRESIDENT'S SURNAME $2000: To allow

FRENCH HISTORY $800: On May 10,1981 France elected as president this socialist who then nationalized most of the private banks

FRENCH HISTORY $1600: (Jimmy of the Clue Crew shows a map on the monitor.) In June 1940, France was split into German-occupied France & Vichy France; 2 1/2 years later, Germany gained control of a large part of continental France; Italy gained most of the area east of this river

FRENCH HISTORY $2000: The October 1415 battle of this fortress, lost to the English, actually took place in a nearby muddy field
(Ellen: What is Mont St Michel?)

BILLIARDS $2000: In 1845 this firm manufactured its first pool table for a Cincinnati meatpacker; it's sold millions of tables since then

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
Chuck: $13,600
Drew: $11,600
Ellen: $10,000

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
THE BILLBOARD TOP 40

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
Four-fifths for first place. Stratton's Dilemma.
Chuck: Wager $9,601 to cover Drew.
Drew: You ought to wager to cover Ellen, but since you cannot win on a Triple Stumper if you do so, you ought to choose between wagering $0 or maximizing your winnings with a bet of all $11,600. You are in Stratton's Dilemma, calling for a wager of more than $8,400 (to shut out Ellen) or less than $7,600 (risking the possibility of being passed from behind by Ellen). Go with the smaller bet if you believe a Triple Stumper is more likely than a singleton miss by Chuck.
Ellen: You ought to try wagering between $1,601 and $6,000. This will top a $0 wager by Drew while still beating Chuck and Drew on the Triple Stumper (should Chuck wager to cover Drew's doubled score and Drew wager to cover your doubled score).

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
Previously done by the Trapp Family, this song about an instrumentalist was a Top 40 hit every December from 1958 to 1962

FINAL SCORES
Ellen: $10,000 - $0 = $10,000 (What is "My Favorite Things?") (3rd place: $1,000)
Drew: $11,600 + $11,600 = $23,200 (What was The Little Drummer Boy?) (2nd place: $2,000)
Chuck: $13,600 + $11,600 = $25,200 (What is fiddler Little Drummer Boy?) (New champion: $25,200)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $12,200

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
Chuck: $13,200, 16 R (including 1 DD), 2 W
Drew: $12,800, 18 R (including 1 DD), 1 W (including 1 DD)
Ellen: $10,000, 16 R, 1 W
Combined Coryat: $36,000

BATTING AVERAGES
Drew: 19/60 = .317
Chuck: 17/59 = .288
Ellen: 16/58 = .276
Team: 52/63 = .825

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
GET A "CLU" $1000: This type of heavenly group seen here is held together by mutual attraction

THE RAND CORPORATION $400: Seen here are 1960s designs by engineer James Drake, who made use of RAND's Santa Monica location to become the father of this sport

CORRECT RESPONSES
Columbia
Lincoln
Bethenny Frankel
a link
Ralph Waldo Emerson
game theory
Corsica
Grant
Francois Mitterand
the Rhone
Agincourt
Brunswick
"The Little Drummer Boy"
a (star) cluster
windsurfing

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Re: Monday, December 12, 2011 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by econgator » Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:28 pm

Today on Jeopardy!, I learned that "rads" has 3 letters in it. How is that not negged?

I also learned that I cannot read, seeing "Trapp" and turning it into "von Trapp".

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Post by DWS » Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:31 pm

FJ seemed pretty straightforward -- I just ran through a bunch of Christmas songs until I came across one that featured an instrumentalist.

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Post by messyjesse » Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:34 pm

Funny--"Trapp" didn't click for me and that's probably what led me to the right answer. If it had been "von Trapp" I probably would've overthought it.

Rest of the board kicked my sorry butt though.
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Post by alietr » Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:03 pm

The Trapp Family Singers consisted of members of the von Trapp family. It was totally neg bait.

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Post by jeff6286 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:22 pm

The Billboard Top 40
Previously done by the Trapp family, this song about an instrumentalist was a Top 40 hit every December from 1958 to 1962.
SpoilerShow
What is The Little Drummer Boy? Ellen said [These are a Few of] My Favorite Things.
Chuck Rezak: $13,600+$11,600=$25,200...now a 1-day champion with $25,200
Drew Bayers: $11,600+$11,600=$23,200
Ellen Tabor: $10,000-$$0=$10,000

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Post by jeff6286 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:28 pm

I agree with the others, that the key words in that clue were definitely "instrumentalist" and "December", while "Trapp" mainly served as a distraction, as songs like Edelweiss kept clogging up my thought process, even though as I realized later, the film version of The Sound of Music hadn't even come out yet in the time frame mentioned here. I have no idea if any of the songs were written for the film, or if all of them were in the Broadway version as well.

Too bad for Drew that he couldn't come up with anything to guess for the final Billiards clue. I didn't either, as Alex mentioned, I associate Brunswick much more with bowling, and was drawing a total blank on naming a major maker of pool tables. We could have a had a tie between Drew and Chuck at $13,600,with both potentially returning tomorrow with $27,200 in winnings.

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Post by MDCSWildcats86 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:58 pm

The BEST version of the correct FJ! response was done by Joan Jett (1981, original pressings of I LUV ROCK N ROLL only, the song was switched out for a non-holiday song on re-releases).

But that's just me.

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Post by Roadgeek Adam » Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:01 pm

I got final, but am the I only one who thinks Chuck showed pretty poor FJ wagering there?
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Post by lisa0012 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:47 pm

Roadgeek Adam wrote:I got final, but am the I only one who thinks Chuck showed pretty poor FJ wagering there?
Same thing (without the extra dollar) that Bhiba did on the 2nd, just bidding second place's total. Are they just too lazy (or nervous about their math skills) to figure out the cover bet?

I didn't like any of the wagers.

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Post by jeff6286 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:49 pm

Roadgeek Adam wrote:I got final, but am the I only one who thinks Chuck showed pretty poor FJ wagering there?
I didn't think his wager was particularly poor, just somewhat unusual. This is the second time in the past two weeks that the leader's bet was equal to or one dollar above the 2nd place player's total. I speculated after Bhibha's similar wager on 12/2 that perhaps she was just making sure that she didn't make a math error by ensuring that her score topped 2nd place's doubled amount, and I guess Chuck could have been thinking similarly.

He bet $1,999 more than he needed to in order to lock out 2nd place, so on a miss he would have dropped to $2,000, rather than $3,999. The potential risk in this move was in losing to a player that dropped to somewhere between $2,000 and $4,000 on a FJ miss. If Drew had wagered to shut out Ellen by a dollar and missed, he would have dropped to $3,199, so in this scenario Chuck's bet could have cost him the game if Ellen had unwisely wagered most or all of her money. In this case, Ellen made a pretty smart play by betting nothing, realizing that she would likely only win if both leaders missed FJ, so in the event of a triple stumper she would have had an easy victory. She probably could have bet up to $6,000 and achieved the same result, but if she didn't feel particularly strong in the Top 40 category, her zero bet was a pretty wise course of action.

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Post by econgator » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:03 pm

lisa0012 wrote:I didn't like any of the wagers.
Drew was in Stratton's. His wager was fine.

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Post by dhkendall » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:24 pm

MDCSWildcats86 wrote:The BEST version of the correct FJ! response was done by Joan Jett (1981, original pressings of I LUV ROCK N ROLL only, the song was switched out for a non-holiday song on re-releases).

But that's just me.
Then apparently you haven't seen the version that's become a YouTube sensation lately, by a 16 year old Winnipegger who does all the music and showcases some of the beauty in this lovely city: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrNcD34KFhM. (Currently has 768,408 views, which is approximately the number of people in Winnipeg!)
jeff6286 wrote:Too bad for Drew that he couldn't come up with anything to guess for the final Billiards clue. I didn't either, as Alex mentioned, I associate Brunswick much more with bowling, and was drawing a total blank on naming a major maker of pool tables. We could have a had a tie between Drew and Chuck at $13,600,with both potentially returning tomorrow with $27,200 in winnings.
Being a bit of a pool fan, it was an easy near-sweep for me (for some reason said "granite", head-slap on reveal), Brunswick is *the* name in pool tables.

And another one who was Trapped by the "Sound of Music", the same part of my brain that held me hostage with "arm wrestling" on Wednesday held me hostage with "Eidelweiss" today. Even if the Trapp part wasn't there, I don't think I would have got it the "song about an instrumentalist" was another "huh?" part for me, was thinking of a specific instrumentalist (Herb Alpert?), not a generic one.
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Post by JyV92 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:25 pm

Someone should tell alex - battle of agincourt in French isn't just Agincourt pronounced as though it were French

the French name -
Bataille d'Azincourt
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different pronunciation altogether.

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Post by teapot37 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:40 pm

I probably would have gotten FJ anyway, but last Friday's xkcd was a big help.
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Post by marpocky » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:47 pm

Nice to see Alex back at the contestant stations for the interviews.

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Post by MarkBarrett » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:52 pm

The writers finally got me. After 16 in a row I feel like an NFL team running a perfect regular season and then blowing the first playoff game at home after a week off. My time off was only the weekend, but it was enough.

Whether it was Trapp or Von Trapp I tried finding something in The Sound of Music. Edelweiss and The Lonely Goatherd was as far as I got before I understood I needed a traditional holiday classic. The clue had enough to get me to the correct response, but only if it came to me. A Christmas song about someone playing an instrument. I had nothing after trying to brainstorm December type songs in rush mode.

Just to have something on the paper and fully aware of all the reasons it was wrong I scribbled "Mr. Bojangles."

What the time off between Friday's game and tonights as far as the taping schedule? I suspect it was more than overnight.

Drew can look at this game over and over again. Game Theory can haunt him on the DD miss or only $2000 on French History in the middle box for his second DD are good places to start. He can find other places a little thing going another way could have swung the game in his favor. At least it was his second day.

I'm glad Pierce and Grant were not FJ clues as I cannot even guarantee 30 seconds would have been enough to figure those out.

I've seen items brought for show and tell before on the show, but Drew's picture of Alex with the pre-show set up to have it ready to display is rare. That's nice it got to air.

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Post by Budphrey » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:57 pm

You have to understand I was raised in Idaho and the Dear Wife in West Virginia.

As soon as the contestants were introduced we looked at each other, smiled a little and almost simultaneously said:

"I'm rooting for the ranch hand."
Poo-tee-weet? So it goes.

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Post by BigDaddyJ » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:21 pm

econgator wrote:Today on Jeopardy!, I learned that "rads" has 3 letters in it. How is that not negged?
My recollection is that they typically don't neg a contestant for pluralizing a singular answer or vice-versa. That the clue mentioned how many letters are in the singular form need not change that. I was fine with them counting that.

Loved the math category and ran it easily. Actually, these boards seemed easy to me in general. I ended up with a Coryat nearly 50% higher than my recent average.

When I saw the FJ category, I very nearly put down my pen as Billboard Top Anything is usually a complete disaster for me. I was pleasantly surprised to find that I was able to guess the correct response.

The real shocker to me was Ralph Waldo Emerson as a triple stumper. It seemed overvalued at $1000 as the "shot heard round the world" line is so oft-repeated.
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