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Tuesday, October 3, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

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Post by theFJguy » Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:18 pm

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
20th CENTURY WORLD LEADERS

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
He said, “Never again shall it be that this beautiful land will again experience the oppression of one by another”

Austin Rogers: 35000+34000=69000
Amy Servat: 18600-18600=0
Ryan Hughey: minus 200

Correct response:
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Nelson Mandela (Amy – Churchill)

Daily Doubles
Austin: 3000+3000
Austin: 12400+6400
Austin: 22400+5400

Coryats
Austin: 23800
Amy: 18600
Ryan: minus 200

Combined: 42,200

Scores at the end of the Jeopardy! Round:
Austin: 7600
Amy: 5400
Ryan: 2200

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Re: Tuesday, October 3, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by KellyLasiter » Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:20 pm

Good Lord, that wager.

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Post by MarkBarrett » Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:22 pm

Ouch on Ryan negging on clue 30 to take himself out of the FJ! round.

SILENT VOCABULARY $400: To twist violently, like a neck
Ryan had wrench (so did I) and Alex was also prepped to accept wring. Are there any others words that could work there?

Memo to J! players: If you see the word “angler” you might want to try Izaak Walton. The show loves the guy.
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#7457, aired 2017-01-31 JOHN DONNE $1600: The first biography of Donne was by this "Compleat Angler" author & appeared as a preface to Donne's "LXXX Sermons"
#7198, aired 2015-12-23 ENGLISH LITERATURE $400: The quiet joys of fishing are described in Izaak Walton's 1653 work "The Compleat" this
#6877, aired 2014-07-08 FATHERLY NICKNAMES $600: This "Father of Angling" was a well-known writer of biographies, his first being a short account of John Donne
#6829, aired 2014-05-01 ON THE "Q...T" $1200: In "The Compleat Angler", Izaak Walton urged, "Be" this "and go a-angling"
#6221, aired 2011-10-10 THIS YEAR IN HISTORY $1000: 1653: This Izaak Walton ode to piscatory endeavors splashes ashore
#6129, aired 2011-04-14 COMPLIMENTS FOR FISHING $2000: You do drift fishing, trolling & ice fishing? You really are this Izaak Walton book
#5870, aired 2010-03-05 THE LURE OF FISHING $1000: This synonym for a fisherman is in the title of Izaak Walton's classic 1653 book on the subject
#5587, aired 2008-12-16 LAST NAME'S THE SAME $1000: Angler Izaak & entrepreneur Sam
#5118, aired 2006-12-06 BOOKS ABOUT AUTHORS $1000: This "Compleat Angler" author wrote a seminal biography of John Donne in 1640
#4582, aired 2004-07-06 PEARLS OF WISDOM $5,000 (Daily Double): A 17th century writer: "Angling can be said to be so like the mathematics, that it can never be fully learnt"
#4450, aired 2004-01-02 17th CENTURY NAMES $2000: In 1653 Izaak Walton reeled readers in with this treatise on fishes & fishing
#4163, aired 2002-10-09 SUB- & ALTERNATE TITLES $2,400 (Daily Double): "The Contemplative Man's Recreation" should hook you if this better-known Walton title doesn't
#3876, aired 2001-06-11 CLUBS & ORGANIZATIONS $1000: Having over 50,000 members puts this "angler" author's league in the big leagues
#3714, aired 2000-10-26 WALTON $200: Izaak Walton's most famous work, it's subtitled "The Contemplative Man's Recreation"
#3634, aired 2000-05-25 WRITERS $400: The 1676 revised edition of his "Compleat Angler" included a new section on trout fishing
#2863, aired 1997-01-29 17TH C. LIT $600: His "Compleat Angler" went through 5 editions during the 17th century
#2818, aired 1996-11-27 BIOGRAPHIES $500: Known for his "Compleat Angler", he also wrote a biography of his friend, writer John Donne
#2453, aired 1995-04-12 ENGLISH LITERATURE $1000: The alternate title of this Izaak Walton work is "The Contemplative Man's Recreation"
#1486, aired 1991-02-04 FAMOUS QUOTES $200: In "The Compleat Angler", Izaak Walton wrote "I have laid aside business and gone to do this"
#1426, aired 1990-11-12 17th CENTURY QUOTES $600: "As no man is born an artist, so no man is born an angler", he wrote in "The Compleat Angler"
#986, aired 1988-12-12 ENGLISH LITERATURE $300: There have been over 300 editions of this treatise on sport, nature & human conduct by Izaak Walton
#821, aired 1988-03-14 AUTHORS $500: A friend of poet John Donne, Izaak Walton is best known for this treatise on fishing & nature
Final Jeopardy! Round clues (2 results returned)
#5136, aired 2007-01-01 WRITERS: A memorial window near his grave at Winchester Cathedral was a gift from the fishermen of England & America
#3102, aired 1998-02-10 ENGLISH LITERATURE: The 5th edition of this work, published in 1676, included a section on fly fishing by Charles Cotton
I got a chuckle from IS THAT A THING $1600: Yes, it’s this 7-letter item seen in a church or an auditorium
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The clue brought back memories of previous discussions of podium vs. lectern or my solution after tiring of the back-and-forth by using the term “podiern.”

A miss for me on the FJ! clue as I spent the entire think time only considering guys in Europe. My bad as the clue has enough to figure where to go. Instead I was stuck thinking WWII era and matched Amy.

I have no knowledge for how long or how short Austin’s stay on the show will be, but from one of the S34 “Who Will It Be?” promo spots there are a couple of things probably serve as an indication. It’s in a spoiler, so your choice to look or not, although it’s not a dead giveaway of anything. It could be meaningless and unrelated to Austin’s run or it could be directly related.
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Alex: Is it too soon to start making comparisons with Ken Jennings?
#2
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Alex: I’m in awe.
My spoilersh opinion:
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I think both are part of Alex’s preamble to two different shows and both are with Austin at the champ’s spot. If Alex starts the show and does not have outfit #1 or outfit #2 on then Austin is going to win that game. The earliest Austin will lose is not until each of the above remarks by Alex with corresponding outfit occur.
If Austin happens to lose in the game when Alex invokes the name of KJ then it will be the host’s fault.
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Re: Tuesday, October 3, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by acthomas » Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:23 pm

KellyLasiter wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:20 pm
Good Lord, that wager.
I can't decide if it's terrifying because he *could* have blown his win with a wrong answer (had she wagered differently)...

... or if the final total is just ... "nice".

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Re: Tuesday, October 3, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MarkBarrett » Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:27 pm

acthomas wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:23 pm
KellyLasiter wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:20 pm
Good Lord, that wager.
I can't decide if it's terrifying because he *could* have blown his win with a wrong answer (had she wagered differently)...

... or if the final total is just ... "nice".
Amy thinks she can't win unless she bets big. With Ryan out Amy thinks there is no penalty for betting it all. Austin thinks the clue will be a double get or a double miss and expects Amy to bet it all. Or Austin really really likes 20th CENTURY WORLD LEADERS? Or Austin wants to go big or go home? When was the last time Roger Craig checked in here? At this point he should be sitting up.

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Post by MarkBarrett » Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:41 pm

Regular Play Winnings over $200,000
Ken Jennings: $2,520,700
David Madden: $430,400
Julia Collins: $428,100
Matt Jackson: $411,612
Arthur Chu: $297,200
Seth Wilson: $265,002
Austin Rogers: $257,700
Tom Nissley: $235,405
Roger Craig: 230,200
Larissa Kelly: $222,597
Jason Keller: $213,900

Frank Spangenberg: $102,597

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Re: Tuesday, October 3, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MTGcollegestudent » Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:44 pm

KellyLasiter wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:20 pm
Good Lord, that wager.
I think this should now be added as part of the Jeopardy! record books...for most money earned on a FJ! wager. It's crazy. I'm not sure what zerobandwidth's reaction is like when he sees this.

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Re: Tuesday, October 3, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by grindcore » Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:06 pm

austin, buddy

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Post by Golf » Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:12 pm

He could have safely wagered $30800 with no risk.

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Post by hbomb1947 » Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:46 pm

We should have more games where Alex dispenses with the preamble to get more clues in. :)

Just when I was wondering why Austin's DD wager in the Venus category was so . . . Venusian :D by his previous standards, he goes and makes an FJ wager far beyond the cover bet that most of us were probably expecting. It was even a little reckless in that it exposed him to a loss in the event of a double-stumper if Amy didn't go all-in. But then again, he's now 6 for 6 on FJ's so he probably wasn't taking much of a risk. :) He's also 12 for 13 on DD's. And his Coryat was $23,800, following a $23,600 in Monday's game. In other words, Austin is playing at a very high level in all phases of the game. The Jeopardy! Fan now gives him an astonishing 60.14% chance of winning a total of at least 11 games, and assesses his average expected number of wins as 15. If he loses on or before November 3, I think I would have him as a platinum in the TOC. :)

Like MarkBarrett, I got stuck in Europe on the FJ, but I went with De Gaulle rather than Churchill. Once Alex started his explanation in the reveal, I knew who we were going to end up with.

Minor quibble: Austin was credited with "Mons Olympus" for "Olympus Mons" as the famous Martian volcano. I've only ever heard it as Olympus Mons. Does flipping the words make a material difference? Would it be like calling a certain Earthly peak "2K" or "Austen-Godwin"?

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Post by dhkendall » Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:24 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:22 pm

I got a chuckle from IS THAT A THING $1600: Yes, it’s this 7-letter item seen in a church or an auditorium
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The clue brought back memories of previous discussions of podium vs. lectern or my solution after tiring of the back-and-forth by using the term “podiern.”
I was probably part of that debate, I have a reputation in my Toastmasters club for being a stickler on the terms “lectern” and “podium” (a podium is something you stand on, hence the root related to “podiatrist”) and I’m famous for that peeve there. Although perhaps mentioning it again has opened up the debate anew.
MarkBarrett wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:22 pm
My spoilersh opinion:
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I think both are part of Alex’s preamble to two different shows and both are with Austin at the champ’s spot. If Alex starts the show and does not have outfit #1 or outfit #2 on then Austin is going to win that game. The earliest Austin will lose is not until each of the above remarks by Alex with corresponding outfit occur.
If Austin happens to lose in the game when Alex invokes the name of KJ then it will be the host’s fault.
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This is pretty much my view too. It seems apparent that Austin is The Prophesied One - although Doubting Thomas me won’t be 100% convinced until the first of those clips airs during an Austin game. I also think Alex has a habit of a) anointing “the next Ken Jennings” early in a run (say 8-10 games in (yeah I know you’re saying “8-10 games is early in a run?” but it would be if they were indeed the next Ken (or even had half Ken’s games)) and b) having said announcement (he’s done it before, I think Matt Jackson was one recipient) be the kiss of death, the recipient losing shortly thereafter. This is why I don’t think his run will go much long past Alex’s comparison, and that his comparison will come soon.
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Post by Andromus » Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:34 pm

Mao for me on FJ.

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Post by xxaaaxx » Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:35 pm

During the FJ commercial break I turned to my friend and said "I wonder if he'll bet big, like 15 grand or so"....clearly I need to dream bigger :shock: Funny thing is, I was thinking he bet too small on his DDs and could've had a lock, but of course a lock wouldn't have let him do THAT.

Took a few seconds to decide that war didn't fit the quote, then apartheid came to mind and I was home free.

Welcome to the ranks of the superchampions, Austin, emphasis on super. WOW.

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Post by mxc_takeshi » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:16 pm

28 right.

Church (1), Silent (2), Occupation (2), Mellow (4), TV (4), Psychic (2)
Geographic (4), Before/After (3), "OLD" (3), Thing (1), Mars (1), Venus (1)

No Lach Trash.

It took some time, but I eventually answered with Nelson Mandela.

Austin rolls on!

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Post by badgerfellow » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:20 pm

I yelled chips and fondue at seeing that wager, except it wasn't chips and fondue.

ETA: Not really, but that wager was insane. Sort of makes sense in retrospect. He's already won a lot of money, a spot in the TOC. Only thing lost with an incorrect Final in this case is more money, even if it is a lot of money.

Amy was a very strong player. Against anyone else, I could see her being a multi-day champion easily.

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Post by KaladinStormblessed » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:21 pm

I got the FJ! Pretty happy about that. I tracked my Coryat for the first time too -- 33k.

I love Austin. This is an exciting season. Glad I started watching again.

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Post by NoWhammies10 » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:28 pm

Coryat: $25,400
DDs: 2/3
FJ!: :mrgreen:

Ran Silent Letter Vocab.

Kicking myself for going Jasper instead of Banff, AB.

HOLY BALLS THAT WAGER :shock: :shock:

Instaget FJ!. Pre-called Mandela, Churchill, and Lech Walesa.

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Post by threearruda » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:30 pm

I said in yesterday's thread that I was excited to see what he could do for an encore.. Ha. I am absolutely floored. Austin has taken home ~$134K in the last two games.. record by a fair margin. What an incredible performance (again!) against a good player in Amy.. keeping it a game into Final.

Feeling very bad right about now for the poor saps in the audience who had to watch the last two days and then have to march on stage against the animal.
hbomb1947 wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:46 pm
If he loses on or before November 3, I think I would have him as a platinum in the TOC. :)
Compared to the most of the rest of this field... hell yeah. Still.. something keeps telling me he may not be this giant lock/favorite we're ready to anoint him as. I love Austin and he's probably the best player we've seen Matt Jackson two years ago. But something is bound to go wrong eventually with his extreme risk-averse style. It worked for Roger Craig, but.. I won't believe it until I see it.

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