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Re: Monday, October 9, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by hbomb1947 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:32 pm

twelvefootboy wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:13 pm
I think this FJ is almost a YEKIOYD by definition. Aquitane easily put me in France, and Belgi was OK, Northeastern France, uh, Flanders?, Normandie? The Celt component was a gob stopper, so what is a regional name? I picked Scandinavia because I didn't know what the origin of the name/area was. So far the boardies that got it knew the quote (some quite well), and nobody has gotten it from the TOM or even a successful WAG.
That's simply incorrect. I never took Latin and never heard the quote prior to tonight's episode, but I reasoned it out by knowing history, and realizing the correct response had to be an area roughly corresponding to modern France but that also included a people called the "Belgae" (who sure sounded like a people who gave their name to Belgium). The inclusion of the Belgae helped me remember the category and not write "France"; and I guessed (correctly) that Gaul -- which I had previously thought of mainly as being the ancient predecessor to France -- must have included at least part of what's now Belgium. (And modern Flanders, BTW, is part of Belgium, not France.)

And I would feel confident in guessing that other boardies solved the clue through similar thought processes.

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Re: Monday, October 9, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Woof » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:38 pm

thenextofken wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:15 pm
Did anyone else get the TS "Arkansas" from remembering the group Black Oak Arkansas? Couldn't tell you anything about them, just knew there was a group called that.
*raises hand*. There were a couple of those that I pulled out of the nether regions, but I still managed to run the category.

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Re: Monday, October 9, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Woof » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:41 pm

hbomb1947 wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:32 pm
twelvefootboy wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:13 pm
I think this FJ is almost a YEKIOYD by definition. Aquitane easily put me in France, and Belgi was OK, Northeastern France, uh, Flanders?, Normandie? The Celt component was a gob stopper, so what is a regional name? I picked Scandinavia because I didn't know what the origin of the name/area was. So far the boardies that got it knew the quote (some quite well), and nobody has gotten it from the TOM or even a successful WAG.
That's simply incorrect. I never took Latin and never heard the quote prior to tonight's episode, but I reasoned it out by knowing history, and realizing the correct response had to be an area roughly corresponding to modern France but that also included a people called the "Belgae" (who sure sounded like a people who gave their name to Belgium). The inclusion of the Belgae helped me remember the category and not write "France"; and I guessed (correctly) that Gaul -- which I had previously thought of mainly as being the ancient predecessor to France -- must have included at least part of what's now Belgium. (And modern Flanders, BTW, is part of Belgium, not France.)

And I would feel confident in guessing that other boardies solved the clue through similar thought processes.
Since the quote wasn't in the clue but merely implied, it was necessary to arrive at Gaul from geographic and historical information. I suppose another conceivable route to itwould be Asterix and Obelix comics.

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Re: Monday, October 9, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Volante » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:45 pm

hbomb1947 wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:32 pm
twelvefootboy wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:13 pm
I think this FJ is almost a YEKIOYD by definition. Aquitane easily put me in France, and Belgi was OK, Northeastern France, uh, Flanders?, Normandie? The Celt component was a gob stopper, so what is a regional name? I picked Scandinavia because I didn't know what the origin of the name/area was. So far the boardies that got it knew the quote (some quite well), and nobody has gotten it from the TOM or even a successful WAG.
That's simply incorrect. I never took Latin and never heard the quote prior to tonight's episode, but I reasoned it out by knowing history, and realizing the correct response had to be an area roughly corresponding to modern France but that also included a people called the "Belgae" (who sure sounded like a people who gave their name to Belgium). The inclusion of the Belgae helped me remember the category and not write "France"; and I guessed (correctly) that Gaul -- which I had previously thought of mainly as being the ancient predecessor to France -- must have included at least part of what's now Belgium. (And modern Flanders, BTW, is part of Belgium, not France.)

And I would feel confident in guessing that other boardies solved the clue through similar thought processes.
Celt had me first think of the Pale, but Aquitane and Belgae outnumbered that for a more Continental answer (plus that'd be damned obscure), leading me toward Gaul. Didn't get it from the quote, just knew from long forgotten source that in ye pre-ye olden days, the France+Belgium region was called Gaul.

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Re: Monday, October 9, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by This Is Kirk! » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:04 am

Austin Powers wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:18 pm
Austin 2 has faced 20 opponents. Among those 20 there's been 3 correct FJ answers.
Amazing. And there have been some very easy FJs, too, as a glance at the weekly polls would show. Not to say Austin isn't a great player, but this has helped him hugely.

I couldn't get to tonight's FJ. I said Britain.

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Post by This Is Kirk! » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:14 am

Woof wrote:
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Since in 8th grade I wrote a parody of Caesar's Commentaries
Out of curiosity, how many wedgies did you get in 8th grade? :lol:

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Re: Monday, October 9, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by hbomb1947 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:16 am

This Is Kirk! wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:04 am
Austin Powers wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:18 pm
Austin 2 has faced 20 opponents. Among those 20 there's been 3 correct FJ answers.
Amazing. And there have been some very easy FJs, too, as a glance at the weekly polls would show. Not to say Austin isn't a great player, but this has helped him hugely.
In most of Austin's games, FJ has been irrelevant except to determining the amount of Austin's winnings. And since he's entered every FJ in even his non-runaway games in first place, a better FJ solve rate by his opponents would have not changed the outcome of a single one of his games. (His sole FJ miss so far was in one of his six lock games.)

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Re: Monday, October 9, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by This Is Kirk! » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:20 am

hbomb1947 wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:16 am
This Is Kirk! wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:04 am
Austin Powers wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:18 pm
Austin 2 has faced 20 opponents. Among those 20 there's been 3 correct FJ answers.
Amazing. And there have been some very easy FJs, too, as a glance at the weekly polls would show. Not to say Austin isn't a great player, but this has helped him hugely.
In most of Austin's games, FJ has been irrelevant except to determining the amount of Austin's winnings. And since he's entered every FJ in even his non-runaway games in first place, a better FJ solve rate by his opponents would have not changed the outcome of a single one of his games. (His sole FJ miss so far was in one of his six lock games.)
True, but their FJ performance might indicate they weren't exceptionally strong players to begin with.

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Post by seaborgium » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:28 am

hbomb1947 wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:34 pm
Category 13 wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:30 pm
hbomb1947 wrote: In the "ends in ING" category, for the retractable thing on the Roman Colosseum whose Latin name was velarium, I had "covering" instead of "awning," and I think they would have accepted that.
I'm not sure awning is the same as bunting.
Well, good thing I said "covering," then.
Category 13 is confusing two clues. I don’t think they’d neg you for “covering,” but you’d probably get a BMS.

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Re: Monday, October 9, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by twelvefootboy » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:29 am

thenextofken wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:15 pm
Did anyone else get the TS "Arkansas" from remembering the group Black Oak Arkansas? Couldn't tell you anything about them, just knew there was a group called that.
+1. I can't say I remember it was a band, I just knew it sounded familiar. I'm close enough to Arkansas to have caught it subliminally, but it was probably the band even though I avoid knowledge of musicians, etc..
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Re: Monday, October 9, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by bbird » Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:09 am

MarkBarrett wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:54 pm
The weird stumper of the day was Mary Baker Eddy = Christian Science. Really, players?
It was also a triple stumper back in June, and I was surprised then too. Maybe I just have a better memory of it because I remember being wowed by the architecture of the mother church when my family visited Boston when I was a kid.

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Post by dinghammer » Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:21 am

Gaul was the only ancient area I could think of that might have had something to do with those three groups, but I had little confidence in it. I was completely unfamiliar with the quote. I don't know how many times "It's better to put something than nothing" has paid off for me, but now I'm sure it's at least one.

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:26 am

bbird wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:09 am
MarkBarrett wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:54 pm
The weird stumper of the day was Mary Baker Eddy = Christian Science. Really, players?
It was also a triple stumper back in June, and I was surprised then too. Maybe I just have a better memory of it because I remember being wowed by the architecture of the mother church when my family visited Boston when I was a kid.
I remember it because I found a Christian Scientist hymnal once and nearly half the hymns were composed by Baker herself. The other half were strange bowdlerisations/guttings of familiar hymns. It was kind of like the hymnal at the New Apostolic Church I played for in that regard.
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Re: Monday, October 9, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by mxc_takeshi » Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:56 am

39 right.

Video (4), States (3), "Cha" (4), Law (4), Pair (3), Classics (5)
Mary (3), "Ing" (2), Foods (2), Check (2), Nature (2), Bond (5)

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I considered Gaul, but talked myself out of it and went with Flanders.

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Re: Monday, October 9, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by cthulhu » Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:01 am

Instaget FJ, but I knew the quote - in English not Latin - via an Isaac Asimov article I read years and years ago. I think this was mostly YEKIOYD; not much TOM there.

Count me among those who got Arkansas via Black Oak Arkansas - "Jim Dandy to the Rescue"!

And did anybody else want Austin to clam on the last DJ clue so that we could hear Alex say "Pussy Galore"?

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Re: Monday, October 9, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by kprather895 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:48 am

MarkBarrett wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:54 pm
Today did have the closing with the players staying in place and of course the balloon animal opening got an encore.
Is that just something they've been doing lately? I haven't really noticed. Maybe one of the players had mobility issues?

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Re: Monday, October 9, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by yclept » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:36 am


True, but their FJ performance might indicate they weren't exceptionally strong players to begin with.
While possible, that assumption is being made based on one FJ miss. In total, the percentage of FJ misses is high, but we have no idea how any of them would do if given a chance to solve multiple FJ clues.

This argument seems to come up every time - whether it is Austin or Julia or Matt or Arthur. While there are certainly players who aren't strong who have crossed their paths, what is likely really happening is that these players are making their opponents appear weak by being so good. Austin has actually played against a few players who were really good - didn't one opponent have $17K+ entering FJ?

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Re: Monday, October 9, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Bamaman » Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:06 am

I am 9/10 on his FJs, my only miss was this past Friday.

Poll request for getting FJ from Latin class.

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Post by NoWhammies10 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:58 am

Coryat: $28,600
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FJ!: :(

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Re: Monday, October 9, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by clt013 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:21 am

teapot37 wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:02 pm
Hmm, I seem to be the only person who has never heard that Caesar quote before. I didn't have a chance.
I'll join you in that club - "NHO" that quote either.
I got as far as "western Europe" based on the groups named, but couldn't pull Gaul.

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