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Re: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by dhkendall » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:25 am

grindcore wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:51 pm
Category 13 wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:12 pm
The DD that David missed was just nasty.
Was it? I feel like sasquatch was easy pickins since bigfoot is only seven letters. Could be canadian bias tho, do americans not really use that term?
I'll echo (from the other side of the border, though) that Bigfoot is not only an oft-used term in the States, I'd guess it's more used there where Sasquatch is here. (All the American programs entitled "Hunting Bigfoot", for example). Plus, the category was about words with native American origins, "bigfoot" obviously isn't.

Was this the first time that a player has been introduced not only by where they live (or, before this season, sometimes where they used to live) but *also* where they work? David was introduced as "an 11th grade history teacher in Peller (?), Texas, from Fort Worth, Texas".
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Post by PhilKohn » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:27 am

squarekara wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:51 pm
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Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:29 pm

Pirogues are also used on the bayous in Louisiana. Enshrined in the song "Jambalaya:" "Goodbye, Joe, me gotta go, me oh my oh! Me gotta go pole my pirogue on the bayou." :)
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Post by Lefty » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:29 am

davey wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:02 pm

Agreed, the only other halfway plausible guess. Not only did Wilde nearly make it to the 20th C., I doubt they'd refer to him as poet for an FJ, Ballad of Reading Gaol notwithstanding....He's a playwright!
Also, "questionable morality" would likely then have struck even the British as excessively understated.

On the other hand, the memorial stone in 1969 could have been a transoceanic salve in the wake of the Stonewall riot.

A few years ago, on one of those nerd-o triviahead sites (ken-jennings.com is my guess), someone posted a sort of question about the poetic quintet of Byron, Coleridge, Keats, Shelley, and Wordsworth, what was remarkable about it. There was a clue about how the fact that some of them died rather young might be important.
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Listed in the proper order (Keats, Shelley, Byron, Coleridge, Wordsworth), the lifespan of each succeeding encompasses its predecessor's. There followed a query as to what other such groups could be assembled, but I don't remember any very interesting answers.
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Post by hbomb1947 » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:39 am

This Is Kirk! wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:19 pm
grindcore wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:51 pm
Category 13 wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:12 pm
The DD that David missed was just nasty.
Was it? I feel like sasquatch was easy pickins since bigfoot is only seven letters. Could be canadian bias tho, do americans not really use that term?
No, "sasquatch" is well-known in the U.S. I could easily see someone jumping to "bigfoot" on a regular clue, but on a DD with the extra time it's definitely a muff.
I agree. My initial thought on the DD was "bigfoot," but then I counted the letters and very quickly rejected it and came up with "Sasquatch" (despite my being American. :D ) And this was despite my embarrassingly forgetting the category. On a DD, with the luxury of a few extra seconds, you have to be deliberate and make sure to test your first instinct against any limitations that the category and clue impose that might rule it out.

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Re: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Peter the accountant » Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:40 am

Another poor performance by me tonight. I'm going to blame the kid and the cat constantly interrupting me. ;)

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Still, I managed to at least pull an English poet from the right time period - Keats. Wrong, but less wrong than picking someone like Mary Shelly.

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Post by dinghammer » Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:25 am

Ironhorse wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:03 pm
I went with Percy Bysshe Shelley for FJ, knowing he was a libertine and that he died early in that decade. I completely forgot about Lord Byron.
Ohhhh, that explains what I was thinking. I said Lord Byron with no confidence whatsoever based on his reputation, but I thought he'd been buried some distance away, so Westminster Abbey wouldn't have even been a consideration. Turns out I was thinking of Shelley, buried in Rome. I also thought of Keats and Coleridge, but they seemed even less likely to be right.

I thought of Sasquatch before Bigfoot, possibly because when someone on TV says something like "and now a word from our sponsors," I often say "Sasquatch" or "kumquat". Yes, I'm exhausting.

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Post by Elijah Baley » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:21 am

acthomas wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:33 pm
Count me still unaware whether Patti pronounces her name Lu-Pown or Lu-Pony, but I reckon Austin's probably right here?
I'm just curious if you've ever heard anyone pronounce it Lu-Pony! (Because yes, Austin pronounced it correctly).

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Post by zerobandwidth » Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:01 am

Elijah Baley wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:21 am
acthomas wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:33 pm
Count me still unaware whether Patti pronounces her name Lu-Pown or Lu-Pony, but I reckon Austin's probably right here?
I'm just curious if you've ever heard anyone pronounce it Lu-Pony! (Because yes, Austin pronounced it correctly).
I have to think that a cameo by a "Patti LuPony" character in a future episode of My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic is inevitable.
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Post by Foretopman » Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:07 am

This is a work in progress --

Q: Which of the Romantic poets was considered to be the most efficient?
A: The one who got his Wordsworth.

Suggestions for improvement welcomed.

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Post by alietr » Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:13 am

+1 for Shelley. That was a 50/50 for me. Carol Anne, however, chose wisely.

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Post by rouquinne » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:07 am

hscer wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:06 pm
any other Coleridge guesses out there? only name I could think of
I'm another one in the Oscar Wilde camp even though I was sure he was later 19th century.
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Post by rouquinne » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:08 am

mrparadise wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:16 pm
If you remember that it was famously said of Byron (by one of his lovers, I think) that he was "mad, bad, and dangerous to know" the "questionable behavior" in the clue points right at him.
Actually, Byron said that about one of his lovers - Lady Caroline Lamb.

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Post by opusthepenguin » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:34 am

dinghammer wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:25 am
Ohhhh, that explains what I was thinking. I said Lord Byron with no confidence whatsoever based on his reputation, but I thought he'd been buried some distance away, so Westminster Abbey wouldn't have even been a consideration. Turns out I was thinking of Shelley, buried in Rome. I also thought of Keats and Coleridge, but they seemed even less likely to be right.
Byron, Shelley, and Keats all died overseas. Well, with Shelley it was more underseas, but you get my point. Keats died in Rome. Shelley died off the northwestern coast of Italy. Byron died in Greece. So postmortem transport would have been involved for a Westminster burial in any of those cases. In the latter half of the 19th century, Elizabeth Barrett Browning died in Florence and her husband Robert died a few decades later in Venice. Robert's the only one who was actually sent back to England to be buried at Poets' Corner.

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Post by acthomas » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:53 am

Elijah Baley wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:21 am
acthomas wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:33 pm
Count me still unaware whether Patti pronounces her name Lu-Pown or Lu-Pony, but I reckon Austin's probably right here?
I'm just curious if you've ever heard anyone pronounce it Lu-Pony! (Because yes, Austin pronounced it correctly).
I won't out the guilty party, but yes. It's also one of those cases where I've only seen her name written down in TV credits and news articles as opposed to spoken out loud by someone definitively in the know -- like Ms. LuPone herself.

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Post by bbird » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:34 am

I was impressed how well they did in the Broadway 2017 category after none of them knew "My Favorite Things" -- one of the more popular songs from The Sound of Music -- was by Rodgers & Hammerstein. Austin was at least in the ballpark with Kern, who wrote the music for "Ol' Man River."

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Post by Elijah Baley » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:42 am

acthomas wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:53 am
Elijah Baley wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:21 am
acthomas wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:33 pm
Count me still unaware whether Patti pronounces her name Lu-Pown or Lu-Pony, but I reckon Austin's probably right here?
I'm just curious if you've ever heard anyone pronounce it Lu-Pony! (Because yes, Austin pronounced it correctly).
I won't out the guilty party, but yes. It's also one of those cases where I've only seen her name written down in TV credits and news articles as opposed to spoken out loud by someone definitively in the know -- like Ms. LuPone herself.
Well, Patti LuPone has been one of the best known Broadway musical actresses since at least 1979 and she's done concerts, TV, movies, etc. And she's no shrinking violet - if everyone had been mispronouncing her name for 40 years, she'd have said something.

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Post by This Is Kirk! » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:46 am

There was another clue in this show that was recently used in LearnedLeague. It was the one about "Come From Away." I can't remember now if the LL question was in the regular league or one of the recent mini leagues.

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Post by Elijah Baley » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:30 pm

With a couple significant poetry questions in just the past couple of games - and the fact that it's obviously a popular subject for Jeopardy, I suggest that one easy way to get a very basic familiarization with the subject is John Lithgow's anthology, The Poet's Corner. The anthology spans about 600 years and includes one (or two) short poems from poets from Auden to Yeats. Better yet, get the audio version as it's read by various American and English actors/actresses, with Lithgow providing an intro and summary for each poet. I think the local librarians know me by now just from having checked it out numerous times - typically coinciding with a long road trip.

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Post by alietr » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:35 pm

This Is Kirk! wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:46 am
There was another clue in this show that was recently used in LearnedLeague. It was the one about "Come From Away." I can't remember now if the LL question was in the regular league or one of the recent mini leagues.
We saw Come From Away at Ford's Theatre during its pre-Broadway run. Wonderful play, but it was a bit tough at times for those of us directly affected by 9/11.

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Post by dhkendall » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:36 pm

bbird wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:34 am
I was impressed how well they did in the Broadway 2017 category after none of them knew "My Favorite Things" -- one of the more popular songs from The Sound of Music -- was by Rodgers & Hammerstein. Austin was at least in the ballpark with Kern, who wrote the music for "Ol' Man River."
If I recall right, "Favorite Things" was still near the beginning of the category in terms of revealed clues, and they might not have gotten the conceit of the category yet (I know it took me a while too, after this clue I think (and longer still for how the "Grandma Got Run Over" clue fit until much later)).
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