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Monday, November 27, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

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Game Recap for Show #7641, 2017-11-27

CONTESTANTS
Caity Willox, a course logistics specialist from Skokie, Illinois
Hilary Fried, a retired box office cashier from Milford, Connecticut
Marcus Gresham, a WRAP facilitator from Corydon, Indiana (whose 1-day cash winnings total $20,401)

OPENING REMARKS
Alex: Thank you, Johnny. Hello, my friends, and welcome to our show. A warm welcome to Caity and Hilary, the challengers. Marcus, good to see you again. Let's go to work in the first round. Here are the categories you three are dealing with...

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
KEEP IT DOWN (3/5)
MOUNTAINS (4/5)
RANKING THE NEW MILITARY MAN (5/5)
NOTABLE NAMES (4/5, including 1 missed Daily Double)
THINK PINK (5/5)
RHYME TIME (5/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Marcus: 12 R (including 1 rebound), 1 W (including 1 DD)
Hilary: 8 R (including 1 rebound), 2 W
Caity: 6 R, 1 W

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 3
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $2,200



JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Marcus found the Daily Double on the 11th clue. Marcus had $2,200, Hilary had $600, and Caity was at $400. Marcus wagered $1,200.

NOTABLE NAMES $800: This Scotsman came to the U.S. in 1871 at the invitation of Sarah Fuller, a teacher at a school for the deaf
(Marcus: Who is Gallaudet?)

SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
Marcus: $2,200
Hilary: $1,000
Caity: $600

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Alex: Caity Willox is from Skokie, Illinois. And you're a member of the oldest volunteer choirs in the United States. Tell me about it.

Caity: The Apollo Chorus of Chicago has been around since the Great Fire of Chicago 1872. And continually sings the Messiah every Christmas, for 145 years.

Alex: That's wonderful. Terrific.




Alex: Hilary Fried from Milford, Connecticut.

Hilary: Yes.

Alex: I understand you get to travel a lot, but not because you want to travel. It's because of your wife.

Hilary: My wife, Laurie, likes to travel, and I just go along for the ride. We have ridden mules in the Grand Canyon, we've swum in the Mediterranean, we've walked on the Great Wall of China. But we've never been south of the Equator. And I want to take a cruise south and go through the Neptune ceremony if that's available for tourists.

Alex: All right, that's great. Good for you.




Alex: Marcus Gresham is our champion. A WRAP facilitator. Now when I say that, people are going to think it's rap music.

Marcus: No.

Alex: But it's not. What do you do?

Marcus: It's similar to a case manager. I get kids who are either in a residential facility and about to come home, or at home, having trouble, possibly--chance of being sent to a residential facility. Try to find what help they may need to be around them, to keep them...

Alex: Okay. Good work. We need people like you.

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
MOUNTAINS $1000: The trio seen here tops out just around 10,000 feet in this range of the Alps with the same name as a mineral

KEEP IT DOWN $400: On "Seinfeld" Jerry is compelled to wear one of these after an encounter with a "low talker"
(Hilary: What is a hearing aid?)

KEEP IT DOWN $800: Roger Maltbie's hushed golf commentary voice earned him the punning nickname this "Whisperer"
(Alex: Not the Horse Whisperer, but [*].)

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
Marcus: $6,200
Hilary: $4,200
Caity: $2,400
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DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
WET SCIENCE (4/5)
A MANIA FOR MANIAS (4/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
MAJOR THIRDS IN MUSIC (5/5)
BOOKS & AUTHORS (3/5)
RUSSIA "N" (4/5)
CRIME TIME (4/5, including 1 missed Daily Double)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Caity: 11 R, 1 W (including 1 DD)
Marcus: 10 R (including 1 rebound and 1 DD), 0 W
Hilary: 3 R, 1 W

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 5
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $9,200



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Marcus snagged the next Daily Double on the 25th clue. Marcus had $11,800, Hilary had $7,400, and Caity was at $12,400. Marcus wagered $2,200.

A MANIA FOR MANIAS $2000: Pontius Pilate probably had ablutomania, an obsessive need to do this
(Marcus: What is wash? ...What is [*]?)

SECOND DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
It was Caity who snatched up the last Daily Double of the game on the 30th clue. Marcus had $15,600, Hilary had $6,200, and Caity was at $14,800. Caity wagered $1,600.

CRIME TIME $2000: Jack the Ripper's ripping:
this decade
(Caity: What are the 1850s?)

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
WET SCIENCE $2000: The lake in the center of the Kawah Ijen this in Indonesia has a pH of less than 1

RUSSIA "N" $2000: It follows "Nizhny" in the name of the Russian city formerly known as Gorky

BOOKS & AUTHORS $1600: "The Encircling Sea" is a chapter in her nonfiction book "The Sea Around Us"

BOOKS & AUTHORS $2000: Kind of like a Swedish Forrest Gump is the novel called "The 100-Year-Old Man" who did this "& Disappeared"

A MANIA FOR MANIAS $1600: Similar to TV detective Monk, you have a compulsive desire to do this if you have arithmomania

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
Marcus: $15,600
Caity: $13,200
Hilary: $6,200

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
GERMAN GEOGRAPHY

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
Four-fifths for first place.
Marcus: Wager $10,801 to cover Caity.
Caity: Try wagering $799, which is as much as you can put up against Marcus without being usurped by a doubled score on the part of Hilary.
Hilary: There's no way you can cover a rational wager by Caity, but if Caity decides for some reason to wager everything, you can eke out a win on a Triple Stumper if you wager no more than $1,400.

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
Of Germany's 16 states, these 2 at opposite ends of the country begin with the same letter & are the largest & smallest

FINAL SCORES
Hilary: $6,200 - $4,601 = $1,599 (What are Bavaria & Brunhilda) (3rd place: $1,000)
Caity: $13,200 - $5,000 = $8,200 (What are Bavaria & Baden?) (2nd place: $2,000)
Marcus: $15,600 + $10,801 = $26,401 (What are Bavaria and Bremen) (2-day champion: $46,802)
(Alex: [To Marcus] You noticed that [**] was on the water, a port city.)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $11,400

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
Marcus: $16,600, 22 R (including 1 DD), 1 W (including 1 DD)
Caity: $14,800, 17 R, 2 W (including 1 DD)
Hilary: $6,200, 11 R, 3 W
Combined Coryat: $37,600

BATTING AVERAGES
Marcus: 23/60 = .383
Caity: 17/59 = .288
Hilary: 11/58 = .190
Team: 51/63 = .810

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
MOUNTAINS $400: "Mountain range mother" in Spanish, it's the collective name of 3 mountain ranges in Mexico
(Hilary: What are Sierra Nevada?)

RANKING THE NEW MILITARY MAN $200: The U.S. went to the polls for one of these on Nov. 8, 2016
(Caity: What is Commander in Chief?)

NOTABLE NAMES $400: He's seen here a few years after selling out to J.P. Morgan's U.S. Steel

THINK PINK $1000: The Casa Rosada, or Pink House, is the president's mansion in this second-largest South American country

MAJOR THIRDS IN MUSIC $1200: Edward Louis Severson III, seen here, is better known as this impassioned singer

RUSSIA "N" $1200: After a 1955 novel brought him wealth, he lived in an elegant Swiss hotel

CRIME TIME $1200: The Black Dahlia murder:
this decade
(Hilary: What is the 1930s?)
...
(Alex: It happened in '47.)

CORRECT RESPONSES
Alexander Graham Bell
the Dolomites
the puffy shirt
the Course Whisperer
wash hands
the 1880s
a volcano
Novgorod
Rachel Carson
100-Year-Old Man Who Climbed Out the Window and Disappeared
count objects
Bavaria & Bremen
Sierra Madre
a general election
Carnegie
Argentina
Eddie Vedder
(Vladimir) Nabokov
the 1940s
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FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
GERMAN GEOGRAPHY

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
Of Germany’s 16 states, these 2 at opposite ends of the country begin with the same letter & are the largest & smallest

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Marcus Gresham: 15600+10801=26401 (2x = $46,802)
Hilary Fried: 6200-4601=1599
Caity Willox: 13200-5000=8200

Correct response:
Spoiler
Bavaria & Bremen (Hilary – Bavaria & Brunhilda) (Caity – Bavaria & Baden)

Daily Doubles
Marcus: 2200-1200
Marcus: 11800+2200
Caity: 14800-1600 (clue 30 trailing by 800)

Coryats
Marcus: 16600
Hilary: 6200
Caity: 14800

Combined: 37,600

Scores at the end of the Jeopardy! Round:
Marcus: 6200
Hilary: 4200
Caity: 2400

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Hilary had some nice pop culture gets with the Dave Pilkey character and the Captain America quote.

Hilary’s mention of wishing to go through the Neptune Ceremony reminded me of my dad’s navy photo scrapbook that showed my dad in a pit of garbage as part of his crossing the equator ritual.

Caity got correct nods for naming the “Rosebud” movie when it wanted the character and for saying “specific gravity” on this $1200 clue in WET SCIENCE: A halocline occurs when fresh water sits on top of salt water, the separation caused by the difference in this

when Alex was looking for density.

There was a Tom Petty clue in October and another in this game. For another name recently in the news there was this one in BOOKS & AUTHORS $800:
He calls himself a “Giant of the Senate” in his memoir detailing his unlikely turn from comedian to politician

Caity trailed 14800 to 15600 when she found DD3 on clue 30. She went for the lead with a little extra and on the miss still had Hilary more than doubled. Caity was in good shape if the FJ! clue was a tough one. It was although Marcus got an impressive solve on his (what he mouthed), “Total guess.”

Like the 2-part geography FJ! clue from last week I had another half right miss. For the small one and looking for something B I wrote Baden-Baden for something German I recalled. Turns out it’s a town and not a state and no way I get Baden-Württemberg. Not to mention that J! would not ask players to write that one.

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My reaction to today's "Giant of the Senate" clue prompted my son to ask an earnest question: "Why does Jeopardy! make you scream so much?" (To be fair, the hollerin' was partly leftover Bears angst from Sunday.) I was rooting for my fellow Chicagoan Caity, whom I had met on the previous taping day, but now I join J!Nation as we collectively anticipate Marcus' next shirt!

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Interesting timing on the Pocahantas clue.

While it was obvious what they wanted, people don't really refer to Roger Maltbie as "The Golf Whisperer".

Marcus left an obvious $1000 on the table on the first DD. In DJ, with two full categories and two DD's remaining, Caity goes to the top of a category. Sigh. Then Marcus does the same thing with one full category remaining. Sigh.

While Caity's DD wager was good, judging from her FJ wager it was a happy accident.

In the end, a very nice solve in FJ to win the game by Marcus.

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The show teaches you many things. Today I learned Bohemia is in the Czech Republic. I'll be checking the 1/2 box on Saturday.

I thought all three players were fun to watch and charming in their own way.

I went 3/3 on DDs thanks to a lucky guess on Jack the Ripper.

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Getting half of FJ! right seems to be the thing to do. I went with Black Forest, trying to think of what the other B was. Not the worst guess, not the best.

"Commander in Chief" was wrong, but would "election of the Commander in Chief" have been counted? I was trying to figure out a way to get "commander" in there somehow that I just plain overlooked "general."

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Golf wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:27 pm
While it was obvious what they wanted, people don't really refer to Roger Maltbie as "The Golf Whisperer".
"Course whisperer." It's "The Course Whisperer" that you wish to allege people don't really refer to Roger Maltbie as.

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Part of me wanted to say Hesse and Hamburg, but I was pretty sure that the southeast one was Bavaria, and I also guessed Bremen as just something that began with the right letter that would be in that part of Germany. I also really want to praise Caity's wager on that last daily double because it was big enough to take the lead if she got it right and small enough that it wouldn't risk going below 3/4 if she got it wrong. Tomorrow, one of the challengers is from Seymour, Indiana, so southern Indiana will really be represented.

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Glad to see Marcus win. I had rooting interest in Hilary, as I had a cousin (recently passed) that lived most of his life in Milford and two other cousins in nearby Stratford.
I have no idea where Hilary was going with that FJ wager. He should have capped his bet at 1398.

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The perils of pre-taping: Al Franken and Pocahontas are not responses you would want to be looking for today.

27 right, 1 wrong today, which is a new personal best, so hooray! Strangely, I didn't 5/5 any category, but I did get at least one right in each. If only I didn't fall for the Commander-in-Chief trap.

Very nice game to start the week. I don't think that any of the players were "out of it" at any point. Very difficult FJ that Marcus pulled from seemingly nothing. If I'm picked for the Tuesday game, I'm scared of Marcus. He's very comfortable at the championship lectern, and he seems like a guy who could hold his own no matter what the category was. It must be intimidating enough knowing that he has a better wardrobe than everyone else.
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BennyBXB wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:20 pm
The perils of pre-taping: Al Franken and Pocahontas are not responses you would want to be looking for today.
At least the Indonesian volcano they referenced isn't the one that's about to blow.

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opusthepenguin wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:28 pm
BennyBXB wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:20 pm
The perils of pre-taping: Al Franken and Pocahontas are not responses you would want to be looking for today.
At least the Indonesian volcano they referenced isn't the one that's about to blow.
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I'm surprised that Marcus' shirt was approved.

Ran Rhyme Time.

I thought "puffy shirt" was extremely obscure. "Hearing aid" seemed a perfectly valid guess for a "low talker". Poll request?

"Nostomania" = "go home" seemed very specific for the top box. I could think of a lot of things you'd want to do on a long vacation. Almost guessed "rest".

I joined the two challengers in having only Bavaria. Bremen doesn't sound familiar to me at all.

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Seinfeld is slightly before my time and I don't watch the reruns, so I relied on knowledge of a certain Ken Jennings game to get to the Puffy Shirt.

And now I am off to do research on German states.
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Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:15 pm
Glad to see Marcus win. I had rooting interest in Hilary, as I had a cousin (recently passed) that lived most of his life in Milford and two other cousins in nearby Stratford.
I have no idea where Hilary was going with that FJ wager. He should have capped his bet at 1398.
Judging by my quick math, Hilary may have intended to cover Caity in the event that she wagered $1 more than Marcus' total and missed.
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Golf wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:27 pm
Marcus left an obvious $1000 on the table on the first DD. In DJ, with two full categories and two DD's remaining, Caity goes to the top of a category. Sigh. Then Marcus does the same thing with one full category remaining. Sigh.
During every orientation, contestants are cautioned that NOT starting at the top of a category can be risky, especially if the writers throw in a cutesy angle that may be trickier to grasp if approached out of sequence. As this logical pattern of gameplay continues, may we be granted the serenity to cope.

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Golf wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:27 pm
While it was obvious what they wanted, people don't really refer to Roger Maltbie as "The Golf Whisperer".
opusthepenguin wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:58 pm
"Course whisperer." It's "The Course Whisperer" that you wish to allege people don't really refer to Roger Maltbie as.
No. He is definitely not referred to as "The Golf Whisperer".

Furthermore, he is also not referred to as "The Course Whisperer". :oops: :oops: :oops:

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TenPoundHammer wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:56 pm
I thought "puffy shirt" was extremely obscure. "Hearing aid" seemed a perfectly valid guess for a "low talker". Poll request?
It's not terribly obscure for people familiar with the greatest television comedy of all time. But if you're not, I agree "hearing aid" was an obvious guess. We apply the YEKIOD tag way too easily for my taste, but this one probably warrants it.

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