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Tuesday, December 26, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

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Game Recap for Show #7662, 2017-12-26

CONTESTANTS
Ami Li, a freelance writer from Lyme, Connecticut
Cary Bonnell, a project manager from Oblong, Illinois
Natalie Ballas, a dentist from Tualatin, Oregon (whose 1-day cash winnings total $12,400)

OPENING REMARKS
Alex: Thank you, Johnny. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. For our Canadian viewers, happy Boxing Day. For the benefit of our American viewers, it's Tuesday.

[Laughter]

Alex: Cary and Ami, good to have you with us. Natalie, nice to see you again. Let's go to work in the Jeopardy! Round, shall we? We start off today in this category...

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
GREEK LETTER PHRASES (3/5, including 1 missed Daily Double)
TV MOVIES (5/5)
STATES BY COUNTIES (5/5)
"MORE" THAN A CATEGORY (3/5)
FAMOUS FIRST NAMES AS VERBS (5/5)
ON BOXING DAY (5/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Cary: 12 R, 1 W
Natalie: 8 R, 1 W
Ami: 6 R, 1 W (including 1 DD)

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 3
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $2,200



SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
Natalie: $3,200
Cary: $2,200
Ami: $1,400

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Alex: Ami Li is a freelance writer from Connecticut who has something in common with one of our big winners on Jeopardy!--Julia Collins. You guys are on the same what?

Ami: We're on the same reunion cycle at Wellesley. So we do class reunions, like every year, there's like a five-year gap. So like, 2010, 2005, 2015. So we're all--we come to Wellesley at the same time every five years for reunion.

Alex: Terrific.




Alex: Cary Bonnell from Oblong [OH-blong]... Oblong [OH-blong]?

Cary: Oblong [OB-long]

Alex: Oblong [OB-long].

Cary: The only Oblong.

Alex: Illinois. You're into sports.

Cary: A little bit.

Alex: Big-time. Maybe too much so?

Cary: Well, I do have three televisions in my living room because they play more than one game at a time. And on a busy weekend I've been known to stream games on the computer as well.

[Laughter]

Alex: Do you gamble?

Cary: I go to Las Vegas every year for the first four days of March Madness.

[Laughter]




Alex: Natalie Ballas, our champion, from Tualatin--

Natalie: You got it.

Alex: Oregon. Yeah. That's--

Natalie: A toughie.

Alex: A toughie. You're a toughie. You're a power weightlifter.

Natalie: Yeah. Well, it's just a hobby.

Alex: Doesn't matter. You can dead-lift twice your weight?

Natalie: A little over twice my weight. Yeah. About 260 pounds.

Alex: How long have you been doing this?

Natalie: Oh, just a few years. But--

Alex: What is enjoyable about it for you?

Natalie: My husband's a personal trainer, so he does a lot of it. So it's something we can kind of do together, which is nice.

Alex: That's a big plus.

JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Ami found the Daily Double on the 24th clue. Natalie had $4,200, Cary had $4,200, and Ami was at $3,400. Ami wagered $1,600.

GREEK LETTER PHRASES $800: This transport business began as a crop-dusting operation in 1924
(Alex: Ami?)
(Ami: What is FedEx?)

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
"MORE" THAN A CATEGORY $200: In chapter 2 of a Dickens work, a hungry Oliver Twist says these 6 words
(Natalie: What is "Please sir, may I have some more?")

"MORE" THAN A CATEGORY $1000: This cliche is sometimes followed by "the fewer, the better fare"

GREEK LETTER PHRASES $1000: NASA intently studies the changing luminosity of this most massive star system within 10,000 lightyears of Earth
(Cary: What is Andromeda?)

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
Cary: $6,200
Natalie: $4,200
Ami: $1,800
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DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
THE BOOK OF PALMS (3/4)
HIS OWN MUSEUM (5/5)
TREATIES (4/5)
ABRUPT ABBREV. (4/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
FRANCE IN YOUR PANTS (3/5)
ON BOXING DAY (3/3)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Ami: 10 R (including 1 rebound), 3 W
Cary: 8 R (including 1 DD), 5 W
Natalie: 4 R (including 1 rebound), 2 W

Clues revealed: 27
Triple Stumpers: 5
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $7,600



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Cary snagged the next Daily Double on the 13th clue. Natalie had $3,400, Cary had $8,600, and Ami was at $7,000. Cary wagered $2,000.

ABRUPT ABBREV. $2000: In a British courtroom,
QC

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
ABRUPT ABBREV. $1200: Medically,
EEG
(Cary: What is an electroencardiogram?)
(Natalie: What is an electroendocardiogram?)

THE BOOK OF PALMS $800: The beginning of this Michener collection mentions the "coconut palms nodding gracefully"
(Cary: What is South Pacific?)
(Alex: Be more specific.)
(Cary: What is Islands of the South Pacific?)
(Ami: What is Tales from the South Pacific?)

FRANCE IN YOUR PANTS $1600: "V" love the '80s, so don't sit on your glacier sunglasses from this brand
(Natalie: What is Versace?)

FRANCE IN YOUR PANTS $2000: Mais oui! An original 1967 Carte Bleue from "Credit" this bank!
(Ami: What is Cartier?)
(Cary: What is, uh, Credit Suisse?)

TREATIES $2000: This 1963 deal abbreviated NTBT says no trying out atomic weapons in the atmosphere, underwater or in space

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
Cary: $11,400
Ami: $8,200
Natalie: $3,800

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
CANADA

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
Two-thirds for first place.
Cary: Wager $5,001 to cover Ami.
Ami: You'll want to wager between $0 (venusian) and $599 (martian), and you'll win the game if Cary wagers enough and gets it wrong.
Natalie: To win, you must get Final right and count on a wagering mistake on Ami's part. Wager all $3,800.

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
As a response to new developments there, this territory was carved out of the Northwest Territories in 1898

FINAL SCORES
Natalie: $3,800 + $0 = $3,800 (What is the Yukon Territory?) (3rd place: $1,000)
Ami: $8,200 + $6,000 = $14,200 (What is the Yukon Territory) (New champion: $14,200)
Cary: $11,400 - $5,001 = $6,399 (What is The Yukon Territories?) (2nd place: $2,000)
(Alex: As a result of the Gold Rush in that area.)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $9,800

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
Cary: $11,400, 20 R (including 1 DD), 6 W
Ami: $9,800, 16 R, 4 W (including 1 DD)
Natalie: $3,800, 12 R, 3 W
Combined Coryat: $25,000

BATTING AVERAGES
Cary: 20/59 = .339
Ami: 17/59 = .288
Natalie: 13/58 = .224
Team: 50/63 = .794

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
TV MOVIES $400: "Confirmation", covering a major 1990s event, starred Wendell Pierce as this man

ON BOXING DAY $200: This team sold Babe Ruth to the Yankees in 1919; curses!
(Alex: Less than a minute now.)

HIS OWN MUSEUM $1200: Next door to each other in London are the homes and museums of these two musicians, who lived 200 years apart
(Cary: Who are Bach and Hendrix?)

ABRUPT ABBREV. $400: On a boat,
HMS
(Ami: What is Her Majesty's Schooner?)
(Cary: What is Her Majesty's Service?)

TREATIES $1600: The 1901 Hay-Pauncefote Treaty with the U.K. gave the U.S. the sole right to build one of these in Central America
(Alex: With less than a minute.)

CORRECT RESPONSES
Delta Airlines
"Please, sir, I want some more"
the more, the merrier
Eta Carinae
Queen's Counsel
an electroencephalogram
Tales of the South Pacific
Vuarnet
Credit Lyonnais
the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty
the Yukon Territory
Clarence Thomas
the Boston Red Sox
Handel and Hendrix
Her Majesty's Ship
a canal
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FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
CANADA

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
As a response to new developments there, this territory was carved out of the Northwest Territories in 1898

Natalie Ballas: 3800+0=3800
Cary Bonnell: 11400-5001=6399
Ami Li: 8200+6000=14200 (New Champ)

Correct response:
Spoiler
Yukon Territory (Cary – Yukon Territories)

Daily Doubles
Ami: 3400-1600
Cary: 8600+2000
DD3 not uncovered

Coryats
Natalie: 3800
Cary: 11400
Ami: 9800

Combined: 25,000

Scores at the end of the Jeopardy! Round:
Natalie: 4200
Cary: 4200
Ami: 1800
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THE BOOK OF PALMS $800: The beginning of this Michener collection mentions the “coconut palms nodding gracefully”

Cary got a BMS for giving the last 40% of the correct response and set the table for Ami to neg with the wrong preposition. Even with that double scoreboard advantage it did nothing for Natalie’s game.

It stinks when DD3 does not get played as who knows what kind of difference it could have made in the game.

I’m no expert on Canadian provinces and territories although I know enough to pick the right territory among three when one is already provided in the clue and the other one came about around a century later.

Cary left Alex’s hands tied for the FJ! round as the host and judges had no choice to in not accepting the pluralized response. For the shorter end of things how about if Cary had only written a 5-letter response?

Let me pick that up for you. Ami name-dropped Julia Collins. 19 more to go.
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I wrote "What is the Yukon?", and I assume that would be acceptable since the clue gave the word "territory", although IANAJ.

I don't know whether I played too much The Yukon Trail as a kid or what, but that was the easiest FJ I've seen in a while.

And naturally, the one occasion we see someone not bet the wad (save a buck or two) from third place, they actually *should* have.
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Newhausen wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2017 5:00 pm And naturally, the one occasion we see someone not bet the wad (save a buck or two) from third place, they actually *should* have.
You'll get used to it :lol:

That was not a slow round, you guys. Clear the damn board *grumblegrumble more sports clues left to die grumble*

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These boards have been freaking impossible lately. HOW do they know any of this crap?!

The Oliver Twist clue was too much for $200. "Please, sir, I want some more" is way too easy to trip up on. I had the overall idea, but couldn't boil it down to six words.

Nothing rang any bells for me in TV Movies either.

What was the TOM for Einstein on Museum for $400?

That honestly didn't look like Hendrix at all to me.

Also didn't know what HMS stood for. I could've taken 400 guesses and never figured the S was "ship".

"Lord of the Flies" is a title I've heard a few times, but not enough to know what it is.

I did manage to get FJ! instantly.
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TenPoundHammer wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:48 pm That honestly didn't look like Hendrix at all to me.
That's because it was Handel. Hendrix was the one on the right.
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opusthepenguin wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:00 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:48 pm That honestly didn't look like Hendrix at all to me.
That's because it was Handel. Hendrix was the one on the right.
When Bach and Hendrix was negged, I was so certain the left one was Bach that I wondered who else the black guy on the right could be. For some reason my mind refuses to remember that Hendrix was black.
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Newhausen wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2017 5:00 pm I wrote "What is the Yukon?", and I assume that would be acceptable since the clue gave the word "territory", although IANAJ.

I don't know whether I played too much The Yukon Trail as a kid or what, but that was the easiest FJ I've seen in a while.

And naturally, the one occasion we see someone not bet the wad (save a buck or two) from third place, they actually *should* have.
I'd say that "Yukon," with or without a leading "the," is fully endorsed by the Parliament of Canada as correct - since that's been the territory's official name for over a decade and a half. But previous to that, it was always "Yukon Territory" - hence absolutely the right call from the judges on Cary's response.
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I thought "Please sir, I want some more" was Lady Chatterley's line :lol:
Picked up EEG (helps to work in health insurance), NTBT, picked up the Tales of the South Pacific rebound.
Either I need to have my eyes checked or I coulda swore Cary wrote "What is Yukon Territory eh?"
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33 right.

Greek (1), TV (3), States (5), "MORE" (3), Verbs (4), Boxing (4)
Palms (1), Museum (3), Treaties (3), Abrupt (1), France (2), Day (3)

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xxaaaxx wrote:
Newhausen wrote: And naturally, the one occasion we see someone not bet the wad (save a buck or two) from third place, they actually *should* have.
You'll get used to it :lol:
I wouldn't expect to see Natalie in a casino.
I'm thinking Ami is not well versed on wagering theory either. I predict she'll go down in the same manner as this past weekend's champ.

Tough break for Cary on the final response. I thought it to be too obvious of a clue for FJ.
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From the thrill of victory to the agony of defeat. Ouch.
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I doubt Cary will be running into Natalie on his next trip to Vegas.

While making the MSB from the lead is the easiest and most common bet, with his trips to a sports book I would not be surprised he put some thought into wagering before his trip.

It was a tough break for him. He did know the right place, he just got the proper name wrong. But I am in 100% agreement with the judges' ruling.

I did write down Yukon Territory, but they would have to have taken just Yukon as that is its official name.
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TenPoundHammer wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:48 pm Also didn't know what HMS stood for. I could've taken 400 guesses and never figured the S was "ship".
Steamer / steamship would (or, at least, should...) also be accepted. Did you manage one or both of those in the 400?
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Did this game set the record for most wrong answers in a game this season? The players were great but there were a lot of tricky clues.

I got tripped up on both "Please sir, I want some more" and also "Tales of the South Pacific."

I think "Yukon" would be accepted even if the proper name was Yukon Territory. The wording of the clue was "...this territory..." which should make Yukon valid regardless.

I don't usually see grace as a synonym for adorn. Missed that clue.

I got 36R which is a good game for me. I was 0/2 on DDs though. I got Final Jeopardy.
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MarkBarrett wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2017 4:43 pm I’m no expert on Canadian provinces and territories although I know enough to pick the right territory among three when one is already provided in the clue and the other one came about around a century later.
TBH I could have sworn I'd see more Nunavuts than I did. Yes, I know that Nunavut was created in our lifetime. Many people know that. But sillier responses have been given under the pressure of the studio. And also, surprisingly, Nunavut was the first thing that popped into my mind, if only for a fleeting moment.

(Fun fact, a lot more than Yukon and Nunavut were carved out of the NWT. All of Alberta and Saskatchewan were, as well as most of Manitoba and a good chunk of Ontario and Quebec as well)
MarkBarrett wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2017 4:43 pm Cary left Alex’s hands tied for the FJ! round as the host and judges had no choice to in not accepting the pluralized response.
The singular form of the parent territory has also been offered as a response on the show - and been rejected..
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38 R
DD: 2/2
FJ: :mrgreen:
LT: "Please sir, I want some more.", The more the merrier., (Delta airlines), Electroencephalogram, Tales of the South Pacific
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Volante wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:33 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:48 pm Also didn't know what HMS stood for. I could've taken 400 guesses and never figured the S was "ship".
Steamer / steamship would (or, at least, should...) also be accepted. Did you manage one or both of those in the 400?
No, I totally derped any possible S word.
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