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Re: Thursday, December 28, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MattKnowles » Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:47 pm

I went 4/4 on big clues but had an average game otherwise.

I learned the definition of probate court from browsing the archive recently but missed the clue tonight when I tried to stretch it out into probation. I believe the clue asked for the name of the action certifying a will. Not those exact words. I thought the rest of the law dictionary category was pretty easy except for squatter which seemed like it might be a slang term instead of the official legal term.

I guessed Hebrides then tried Shetland on the rebound. I found this map helpful after the game:

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Post by seaborgium » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:03 am

The word "birthstone" escaped me, and the best I could muster was "gemstones of the months." I think they'd let me get away with that.

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Re: Thursday, December 28, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Ironhorse » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:04 am

opusthepenguin wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:56 pm
So the clue that wanted "...THE ROLLING STONES FACED 'EXILE' HERE." Think I could've gotten away with "What is Main Street?"
Fully acceptable in my book.
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Re: Thursday, December 28, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by econgator » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:15 am

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:34 pm
Saw no way to figure out what the beignet would be the donut of. Could be any state.
It should be the doughnut of every state.

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Re: Thursday, December 28, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by opusthepenguin » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:16 am

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:34 pm
Saw no way to figure out what the beignet would be the donut of. Could be any state.
If you don't know that beignets are a distinctive New Orleans treat, that clue would be a toughie. I wouldn't recommend ringing in. On a DD, you might WAG Louisiana based on the French connection.

Another distinctive New Orleans treat worth remembering (and sampling) is the praline. Made with pecans. Yum.

A third distinctive New Orleans treat would be Bananas Foster, a dessert of bananas drenched in butter, brown sugar, cinnamon, rum, and banana liqueur, placed on top of vanilla ice cream and ignited (usually tableside). Invented at Brennan's restaurant which may be New Orleans' most famous restaurant. (But if someone wants to argue for Antoine's, I won't fight over it.)

And that's just the desserts. In my opinion, the New Orleans area has hands down the best local cuisine in the entire US of A.

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Re: Thursday, December 28, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Volante » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:26 am

MattKnowles wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:47 pm
I went 4/4 on big clues but had an average game otherwise.

I learned the definition of probate court from browsing the archive recently but missed the clue tonight when I tried to stretch it out into probation. I believe the clue asked for the name of the action certifying a will. Not those exact words. I thought the rest of the law dictionary category was pretty easy except for squatter which seemed like it might be a slang term instead of the official legal term.

I guessed Hebrides then tried Shetland on the rebound. I found this map helpful after the game:
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Or this image!
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Re: Thursday, December 28, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by alan tiger » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:09 am

MattKnowles wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:47 pm
I went 4/4 on big clues but had an average game otherwise.
I learned the definition of probate court from browsing the archive recently but missed the clue tonight when I tried to stretch it out into probation. I believe the clue asked for the name of the action certifying a will. Not those exact words. I thought the rest of the law dictionary category was pretty easy except for squatter which seemed like it might be a slang term instead of the official legal term.
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probate is a civil matter to establish the validity of a will. probation is a criminal matter where the convict may avoid incarceration subject to compliance with certain conditions.

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Re: Thursday, December 28, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Johnblue » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:27 am

Volante wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:26 am
MattKnowles wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:47 pm
I went 4/4 on big clues but had an average game otherwise.

I learned the definition of probate court from browsing the archive recently but missed the clue tonight when I tried to stretch it out into probation. I believe the clue asked for the name of the action certifying a will. Not those exact words. I thought the rest of the law dictionary category was pretty easy except for squatter which seemed like it might be a slang term instead of the official legal term.

I guessed Hebrides then tried Shetland on the rebound. I found this map helpful after the game:
SpoilerShow
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Or this image!
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I did the Antarctica, S. Georgia & Malvinas/Falklands itinerary earlier this year & I was SURE tonight's answer was S. Shetlands. Oh well. I was rooting for Kevin again since he seems like a good guy & he lives & works in my old county (Go Suffolk!) but the new guy seems sharp too! Easy FJ again.

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Post by Bob78164 » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:43 am

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Re: Thursday, December 28, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by dinghammer » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:54 am

econgator wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:31 pm
Should have been obvious. Wasn't.
Yup.

Topaz is my birthstone.

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Post by earendel » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:07 am

twelvefootboy wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:40 pm
Nothing Biblical can be connected to the Zodiac can it?
Not definitely, but there is a lot of astrological speculation. Here are two articles - they don't even agree on which tribe of Israel gets associated with which zodiac sign.

http://www.usbible.com/Astrology/stars_of_israel.htm

http://www.llewellyn.com/journal/article/472
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Re: Thursday, December 28, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by opusthepenguin » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:13 am

dinghammer wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:54 am
Topaz is my birthstone.

Mine's sapphire. Why are we whispering?

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Re: Thursday, December 28, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by John Boy » Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:18 am

MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 2:15 pm
List of 12, starting with 3 precious stones? Must be the 12 tribes!

:oops:
You are so close!

Let me say that one of my guilty pleasures is watching the show "Ancient Aliens." Just last week they aired a show on the Ark of the Covenant, focusing on the power it had (according to OT accounts), even killing people who came too close to it without protection.

The protection that is mentioned in the ancient texts was a garment worn by the high priest when he would go into the presence of the Ark. It was decorated (?) with twelve precious or semiprecious stones (presumably each one representing one of the tribes). This garment would allow him to enter the Holy of Holies without being killed.

Seems as if, from this came the concept of twelve birthstones.

I'm not 100% sure I would have gotten this FJ without that weird factoid. Possibly. But I did get it in this game. As many people have said, you learn stuff from all over that may come in handy if you ever get to play J!

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Re: Thursday, December 28, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by John Boy » Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:20 am

John Boy wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:18 am
MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 2:15 pm
List of 12, starting with 3 precious stones? Must be the 12 tribes!

:oops:
You are so close!

Let me say that one of my guilty pleasures is watching the show "Ancient Aliens." Just last week they aired a show on the Ark of the Covenant, focusing on the power it had (according to OT accounts), even killing people who came too close to it without protection.

The protection that is mentioned in the ancient texts was a garment worn by the high priest when he would go into the presence of the Ark. It was decorated (?) with twelve precious or semiprecious stones (presumably each one representing one of the tribes). This garment would allow him to enter the Holy of Holies without being killed.

Seems as if, from this came the concept of twelve birthstones.

I'm not 100% sure I would have gotten this FJ without that weird factoid. Possibly. But I did get it in this game. As many people have said, you learn stuff from all over that may come in handy if you ever get to play J!

Other groups of 12 (Zodiac etc.) may make some sense but almost certainly weren't mentioned in the Bible.

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Re: Thursday, December 28, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by squarekara » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:25 pm

I thought the stones mentioned in FJ just described color on the garment and weren't actual stones. Plus, my kids are so obssessed with the "Steven Universe" cartoon and its emphasis on gems and minerals, I completely tune out anything having to do with gemstones these days. My husband and I thought it could only be the 12 Tribes of Israel.

Oh, also we're big "Doctor Who" fans. Sometimes I absently mutter "Peter Capaldi" in a bad Cockney fashion--"Pee'ah Capaw'dee"--the way other people might whistle or hum. When his picture flashed up in the game, I totally blanked on his name.

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Re: Thursday, December 28, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by tiwonge » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:21 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:34 pm
Saw no way to figure out what the beignet would be the donut of. Could be any state.
As mentioned elsewhere, New Orleans (particulary the Cafe du Monde, one of those must-see places in New Orleans) is known for beignets.
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:34 pm
Recognized none of the play titles either.
A few of them were more modern, sort of absurdist plays. Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead and Six Characters in Search of an Author are both pretty modern. I've heard of Lady Windemere's Fan, but couldn't get that. I think the 25th Annual Putnam County Spelling Bee was made into a movie somewhat recently? Googling it, and I guess it wasn't, but it was pretty popular several years back. I guess it's both a book and a play. I didn't recognize the last one, though.
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:34 pm
Also don't recognize "59th Street Song" at all.
"The 59th Street Bridge Song" is not one of Simon & Garfunkel's most notable hits, but it's a second tier hit (with songs like Cecilia, and on their Greatest Hits CD). The "Feelin' Groovy" hook is pretty easy to recognize if you've heard it.


TenPoundHammer wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:34 pm
What was the TOM for oceanography at $400?
Two ways I got this. First, it's quasi-current events. The Boaty McBoatface polling thing happened just a few years ago, and if you were following it, you knew that it was an oceanographic exploration vehicle. Second, a boat that is a scientific vessel is probably associated with the ocean, the O in NOC. And the -graphy is given to you.
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Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:34 pm
Minipax = ministry of peace? No idea how you figure this out.
This is from 1984. Most of the ministries in that book--fictional ministries, since it's a work of fiction--start with Mini for ministry. And are ironically named. Minipax (ministry of pax/peace) deals with war.
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:34 pm
Also saw no way to figure out "Chopin" at $400.
Was just a guess for me. I strongly associate Chopin with piano and keyboards, and he's one of the most significant Polish composers. (Although I blanked on his name, and couldn't come up with it in time.) Then again, most of the questions in that category were guesses for me. I am just familiar enough with composers and what country they're from to make guesses based on national origin clues. (I did get Mussorsky (sp?), but none of the others, if I don't count coming up with Chopin in time.)

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Re: Thursday, December 28, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by AFRET CMS » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:51 pm

opusthepenguin wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:13 am
dinghammer wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:54 am
Topaz is my birthstone.

Mine's sapphire. Why are we whispering?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Thursday, December 28, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by bbird » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:28 pm

opusthepenguin wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:16 am
On a DD, you might WAG Louisiana based on the French connection.
I've never heard of nor (until a Google Image search just now) seen a beignet, so that was exactly my WAG. I guess it must be well-known enough to be a top level clue?

We sang The 59th Street Bridge Song in elementary school, and I'd always hated the title, so that was an easy one for me. (I still remember our music teacher admonishing us for wanting a song title have any relevance to the song lyrics.)

The 25th Annual Putnam County Spelling Bee is actually a musical, one I've music directed, and is one of my favorites.

I didn't find the inside-the-word category nearly as difficult as I'd feared after Alex's explanation. I don't know if he misspoke, but he said the correct response would be found "in the clue," but it was clear from the example that it's not -- you actually have to come up with a certain word first, then find another word inside that. Normally those wordsearch clues trip me up and I have to pause the DVR, but I did OK on most of these.

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Re: Thursday, December 28, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Bamaman » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:04 pm

Another 12 Days of Christmas gifts here. Given the time of year, a bit of a negbait FJ, but whatever. I also never thought of birthstones as a tradition.

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Re: Thursday, December 28, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Bartleby » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:01 pm

theFJguy wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:23 am
FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
This list of 12 may have been inspired by a biblical garment decorated in 4 rows, the top being sardius, topaz & carbuncle
Always beware of Greeks bearing gifts and trivia questions containing the reassuring words, "may have been." And Monkeys might fly out of my butt!
I also went with the 12 Days of Christmas.
I would prefer not to.

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