Monday, January 1, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

This is where all of the games are discussed.

Moderators: alietr, dhkendall, trainman, econgator

Archivists
Fan-created archive of games and players
Posts: 3341
Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:04 pm
Contact:

Monday, January 1, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:29 pm

J! Round

Archivists
Fan-created archive of games and players
Posts: 3341
Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:04 pm
Contact:

Re: Monday, January 1, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:29 pm

DJ! Round

theFJguy
Watches Jeopardy! Way Too Much
Posts: 683
Joined: Sun Oct 11, 2015 2:21 pm

Re: Monday, January 1, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by theFJguy » Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:37 pm

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
PLACES IN 1950s NEWS

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
Pravda reported that Khrushchev, on his way to lunch, announced his decision to give this region to Ukraine

Henry Ayoola: 1100+0=1100
Lisa McAndrews: 7600-7599=1
Nick Spicher: 10000+5201=15201 (New Champ)

Correct response:
SpoilerShow
Crimea (Lisa – Checyna)

Daily Doubles
Henry: minus 200+500
Henry: 5100-4000
Lisa: 9600-2000

Coryats
Henry: 5200
Lisa: 9600
Nick: 10000

Combined: 24,800

Scores at the end of the Jeopardy! Round:
Henry: 300
Lisa: 800
Nick: 8400

User avatar
MarkBarrett
Watches Jeopardy! Way Too Much
Posts: 8101
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:37 am
Location: San Francisco

Re: Monday, January 1, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MarkBarrett » Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:38 pm

The game did not get off to a good start with BEASTLY POETRY FILL-IN $200 a stumper. The clue: “The time to tickle a ___, is before, or right after, a blizzard”

The rhyme makes sense since it’s right there, but I was with the players in starting the game 0-1.

I got ahead of the players on the next one since I know Rum Tum Tugger.

Alex, come on now, everyone knows who Bob Ross is: (an excuse to show this that was in heavy TV ad rotation in December)

Image

I wonder if the writers’ ears perked up and perhaps Bob Ross will get his first hit in the Archive down the line?

Alex busted Henry in FLAGS with the BMS on his, “Who is the Pope?”

“And I need you to be more specific, who is the Pope now?”

Nick got caught for making Coolio’s song title not hood enough as with that reversal he suddenly went from 12000 down to 8800 and in 2nd place.

SAVED BY THE BELA had three clues not played. The Hungarian composer was in J!6, so he’s out for the missing clues. Even using Google and Wikipedia I had trouble finding who might have been there with Fleck (banjo) one guess.

If Lisa had the right area for the FJ! clue I don’t see how Checyna would fly for Chechnya. My spelling for my response was fine. The problem was I wrote Siberia. It’s the kind of clue that will be easy for many grown-ups while I’ll sit at the kiddie table with the others who miss it.

Can Nick get a hair dye job and new specs overnight? It would not take much for him to look even more like Anderson Cooper.

User avatar
dhkendall
Pursuing the Dream
Posts: 8744
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:49 am
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
Contact:

Re: Monday, January 1, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by dhkendall » Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:58 pm

Wasn't missing the first round DD as a former Cub Scout leader!

Asking for the current pope in that flag clue? That is total BS! The clue doesn't indicate that, and it was the flag when both Benedict and Francis were pope. The Gangster/s vs. Gangsta's Paradise clue is also a bogus ruling too, but I'll grudgingly accept that one.

Instaget Final.
"Jeopardy! is two parts luck and one part luck" - Me

"The way to win on Jeopardy is to be a rabidly curious, information-omnivorous person your entire life." - Ken Jennings

Elijah Baley
Watches Jeopardy! Way Too Much
Posts: 906
Joined: Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:27 pm

Re: Monday, January 1, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Elijah Baley » Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:11 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:38 pm

Alex, come on now, everyone knows who Bob Ross is: (an excuse to show this that was in heavy TV ad rotation in December)

Image

I wonder if the writers’ ears perked up and perhaps Bob Ross will get his first hit in the Archive down the line?
That was a surprising admission by Alex; I don't know how an adult his age could have never even heard of the guy.

User avatar
dhkendall
Pursuing the Dream
Posts: 8744
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:49 am
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
Contact:

Re: Monday, January 1, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by dhkendall » Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:16 pm

Elijah Baley wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:11 pm
That was a surprising admission by Alex; I don't know how an adult his age could have never even heard of the guy.
I bet the CCs assumes he’d heard of him too, which is why it was on the card.
"Jeopardy! is two parts luck and one part luck" - Me

"The way to win on Jeopardy is to be a rabidly curious, information-omnivorous person your entire life." - Ken Jennings

User avatar
TenPoundHammer
Oahu? Wahoo!
Posts: 6765
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:59 pm
Location: Michigan
Contact:

Re: Monday, January 1, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by TenPoundHammer » Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:28 pm

Alex doesn't know who Bob Ross was? For shame.

Ran the Popcorn category.

I recognized absolutely nothing in Band Stands. "Inflatable pig" seemed very esoteric in particular. And who even remembers Radiohead anymore?

FJ! was total word salad to me. Crimea sounds totally unfamiliar to me.

Lach Trash: lizard, alligator
Ten Pound Hammer

This space for rent

User avatar
econgator
Let's Go Mets!
Posts: 7546
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:32 am

Re: Monday, January 1, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by econgator » Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:30 pm

dhkendall wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:58 pm
Asking for the current pope in that flag clue? That is total BS! The clue doesn't indicate that, and it was the flag when both Benedict and Francis were pope.
Considering all the crap that they don't BMS that they should? Yeah.
dhkendall wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:58 pm
The Gangster/s vs. Gangsta's Paradise clue is also a bogus ruling too, but I'll grudgingly accept that one.
Here we disagree. It had to be reversed.

User avatar
econgator
Let's Go Mets!
Posts: 7546
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:32 am

Re: Monday, January 1, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by econgator » Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:32 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:38 pm
If Lisa had the right area for the FJ! clue I don’t see how Checyna would fly for Chechnya.
Yeah, that's Nabibia all over again.

User avatar
TenPoundHammer
Oahu? Wahoo!
Posts: 6765
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:59 pm
Location: Michigan
Contact:

Re: Monday, January 1, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by TenPoundHammer » Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:32 pm

econgator wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:30 pm
dhkendall wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:58 pm
Asking for the current pope in that flag clue? That is total BS! The clue doesn't indicate that, and it was the flag when both Benedict and Francis were pope.
Considering all the crap that they don't BMS that they should? Yeah.
And all the BMSes that are totally unnecessary, such as BMSing a president named Clinton. Or BMSing a very tenuously synonymous word that doesn't quite work in that context at all...
Ten Pound Hammer

This space for rent

User avatar
xxaaaxx
Watches Jeopardy! Way Too Much
Posts: 1857
Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:29 pm
Location: Brooklyn, NY

Re: Monday, January 1, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by xxaaaxx » Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:39 pm

That pope BMS was a joke. I'm pissed that they even asked, and even more pissed that it 'worked'.

That Gangster's Paradise reversal might be the saddest thing I've seen on J! in a long time. Sorry, you didn't misspell the word properly :lol:

Never heard of Bob Ross? What the...shame on you, Trebek! Also, just when I had forgotten how tacky that damn Chia Pet was...thanks for that, Mark.

Down 1k, LTaM to go, sure let's head to the top of the category. Never change, J! contestants.

Instaget FJ.

User avatar
OSXpert
Watches Jeopardy! Way Too Much
Posts: 881
Joined: Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:29 pm

Re: Monday, January 1, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by OSXpert » Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:43 pm

I noted that he said Gangster but assumed that was not something that gets ruled incorrect, but I'm ok with it as its a title.

I had a rough neg myself and said "The MAN who came in from the Coldplay" instead of Spy.

I flaunted my terrible geography skills and went with Georgia for FJ.

This is the second time in a week where they have cut away from the contestants and then cut back while players 1 and 3 shake hands, making it appear as though player 2 was ignored by the other two players.

User avatar
opusthepenguin
The Best Darn Penguin on the Whole JBoard
Posts: 5982
Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:33 pm
Location: Shawnee, KS
Contact:

Re: Monday, January 1, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by opusthepenguin » Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:08 pm

I noticed the Gangster's thing but assumed they were following the "Singing in the Rain" vs "Waitin' for Godot" rule. I.e. you can correct something like that to its standard form but not vice versa. Now I'm not sure what the rule is.

Really surprised that Pope got BMSed. What was the logic there? It's not the flag of Pope Francis. The additional indignity was allowing Lisa to ring in and get the rebound bucks after being told the correct response was the name of the current pope.

I liked the way Nick stayed cool under pressure.

Is this the first time Alex has indicated that he maybe knows contestants' FJ responses before they're revealed?

calculus21
Just Starting Out on JBoard
Posts: 1
Joined: Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:04 pm

Re: Monday, January 1, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by calculus21 » Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:09 pm

I thought Alex remains silent or says "we need more information" I am not used to, nor is it fair to ask a different question to help the player along. That is wrong. But hey it's Alex, the guy who is so uninformed he never heard of Bob Ross

User avatar
DBear
Watches Jeopardy! Way Too Much
Posts: 827
Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:57 pm

Re: Monday, January 1, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by DBear » Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:35 pm

Lisa threw away a thousand dollars with her bet. She can bet 5399, putting pressure on Nick, while still covering Henry in case of a miss.
Lots of trash in the DD: pig, The Spy who Came in from the Coldplay, alligator, guru, the Singh DD, and Amritsar. FJ was easy.
I do not count the Gangsta's Paradise Lost as trash since IMO it should not have been reversed.

User avatar
OntarioQuizzer
Lots and Lots of Interviews
Posts: 991
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:01 am

Re: Monday, January 1, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by OntarioQuizzer » Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:37 pm

DBear wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:35 pm
Lisa threw away a thousand dollars with her bet. She can bet 5399, putting pressure on Nick, while still covering Henry in case of a miss.
Lots of trash in the DD: pig, The Spy who Came in from the Coldplay, alligator, guru, the Singh DD, and Amritsar. FJ was easy.
I do not count the Gangsta's Paradise Lost as trash since IMO it should not have been reversed.
Sorry, but 2800 is a significantly better bet than 5399.
Andy Saunders
Moderator, #JeopardyLivePanel
Host, Complete The List
J! Archive Founding Archivist
Site Admin - The Jeopardy! Fan

User avatar
DBear
Watches Jeopardy! Way Too Much
Posts: 827
Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:57 pm

Re: Monday, January 1, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by DBear » Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:42 pm

OntarioQuizzer wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:37 pm
DBear wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:35 pm
Lisa threw away a thousand dollars with her bet. She can bet 5399, putting pressure on Nick, while still covering Henry in case of a miss.
Lots of trash in the DD: pig, The Spy who Came in from the Coldplay, alligator, guru, the Singh DD, and Amritsar. FJ was easy.
I do not count the Gangsta's Paradise Lost as trash since IMO it should not have been reversed.
Sorry, but 2800 is a significantly better bet than 5399.
Good catch.

davey
Watches Jeopardy! Way Too Much
Posts: 2933
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:55 pm

Re: Monday, January 1, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by davey » Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:58 pm

opusthepenguin wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:08 pm
I noticed the Gangster's thing but assumed they were following the "Singing in the Rain" vs "Waitin' for Godot" rule. I.e. you can correct something like that to its standard form but not vice versa. Now I'm not sure what the rule is.

Really surprised that Pope got BMSed. What was the logic there? It's not the flag of Pope Francis. The additional indignity was allowing Lisa to ring in and get the rebound bucks after being told the correct response was the name of the current pope.

I liked the way Nick stayed cool under pressure.

Is this the first time Alex has indicated that he maybe knows contestants' FJ responses before they're revealed?
Posters have been saying that this is the case for years but tonight was the clearest evidence I've ever seen for it.
Maybe the Pope BMS was the sign of a new policy? And the "Gangsta" reversal that "Singing in the Rain" will no longer be acceptable?
If not, the first ruling was outrageous and the second one marginally unfair...

A weird FJ clue. The category was really "Places in 1950s News That are More Significantly Places in Contemporary News."

User avatar
alietr
Site Admin
Posts: 5800
Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:20 pm
Location: Bethesda, MD

Re: Monday, January 1, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by alietr » Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:15 pm

Anyone have the wording on the Pope clue? I couldn't believe the BMS.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 23 guests